Bergara SP vs REM 700

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Been looking hard at the Bargara SP in the 308. Gun will be used for deer hunting from box stands and will have an Omega 300 on the end of it most of the time. Will be shooting factory ammo as I currently do not reload. Shots will be around 350-400 yards max and then that’s rare.

With all that said, For those of you with experience, is the Bergara SP the route to go over a Remington 700?

Got a buddy building a custom 700 and he thinks I’m wasting my time on a factory rifle. But the more I read into the Bergara SP and Hornady eld-x ammo, seems to fit bill for me without spending a good bit of money. Thanks
 
Go with the Bergara. You get a lot of gun for the price. You didn’t mention your skill level and experience with long range shooting. And if you will be reloading. Since you mentioned the Hornaday ammo, I assume you are not reloading.

Until you start reloading you won’t see a difference from a custom built rifle. You can buy a lot of ammo and master the basics for the cost of a custom rifle and reloading setup as well.

My buddy gets consistent 1/2 MOA groups with his Bergara 6.5 with factory match grade ammo.
 
And another plus for the Bergara. You can buy the B14R, and get a match grade .22lr that is just like you centerfire rifle to practice with using cheaper match grade ammo.
 
Average Joe said:
Go with the Bergara. You get a lot of gun for the price. You didn’t mention your skill level and experience with long range shooting. And if you will be reloading. Since you mentioned the Hornaday ammo, I assume you are not reloading.

Until you start reloading you won’t see a difference from a custom built rifle. You can buy a lot of ammo and master the basics for the cost of a custom rifle and reloading setup as well.

My buddy gets consistent 1/2 MOA groups with his Bergara 6.5 with factory match grade ammo.
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To add to this, someone recently posted a thread about sub 1MOA hunting rifles isn’t realistic. Towards the end of the video he have Bergara a shout out for being realistic, and showing the groups they achieve, and what ammo they use to test each caliber.
 
@chocolate lab84 if you got the time I would bring some money and drive up to Eastwood Outfitters in West End, NC.

Its a dedicated store to just long-range shooting. From carrying Bargara rifles in stock to a full section of Masterpiece arms and Nightforce optics, Trust me, its worth it.

Google map link: https://goo.gl/maps/xS3v5MnxhDgdc66WA

John
 
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I have both. The Bergara is a .300 Win Mag. It is in an Accuracy International chassis, since the rifle is made on the Remington footprint. Fabulous rifle. My Remington 700 is a .223, in a newer chassis from Accuracy International.
They both shoot 1/2” groups at 100 yards. They both do their job. The real difference is the triggers. The Remington trigger is true junk, and some (many) had a habit of firing when closing the bolt. It now has a $200 Timney trigger and is fine. The Bergaras come with quality triggers. As far as handling, accuracy or looks, it is a toss-up.
If you listen to the internet rifle gurus, they immediately steer you to blueprinted $$$$ target setups, when most stock Remingtons are capable of accuracy suitable for hunting, even at ranges the average person has no reason to attempt. Funny how people used Remington 700s for most of the last century, and because their business model and quality control ended up with bankruptcy, they are now supposed to all be trash.
I like them both. The Remington cost hundreds less, shoots just as good. But, the Bergara comes with a nice adjustable stock, while most Remingtons have poor quality stocks. I like chassis rifles, so outside of my initial cost, the Remington has about a $650 jump on the Bergara, even considering the cost of the Timney.
You can get parts for either rifle.
Good luck deciding.
 
To be honest, for hunting it doesn't really matter what brand of rifle you get. 1 - 2 inch groups is fine out to any reasonable hunting distance. A light rifle (6-8 pounds) with a decent scope and trigger will put meat in the freezer every time.
 
Right now today... Bergara would be the choice of your 2. A Remington 700 from years ago then it would be a different story. As has been mentioned for hunting it really doesn't matter which. Now I do have Remington 700 SA's with other barrels in 308, Hart, Krieger, Bartlein, McMillan stocks, and a bone stock 70's era 700 in 308.

-Snoopz
 
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Update- still haven’t put my hands on a bergara yet. Been checking some local pawn shops for an older 700 for a donor action and coming up empty. Hope to swing by some gun stores and try to out my hands on a bergara soon.
 
chocolate lab84 said:
Update- still haven’t put my hands on a bergara yet. Been checking some local pawn shops for an older 700 for a donor action and coming up empty. Hope to swing by some gun stores and try to out my hands on a bergara soon.
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Sounds good...what i also did, when i was in MD, would check out the Wally World's around me. Low and behold the had a 700 (243) marked down think $219 or around that range, asked you got any more he looked said yeah, so bought em, said all I need is the action..so they were my built actions when the time comes, Wally World was also getting rid of the 700ADL's in 223 with scope like $199, just need the action. 223 bolt face covers some calibers, 243 covers a few also. Just about any caliber that has the same bolt face can be used (short action) 22-250, 243, 308. Picked up a 700 short action 308, cheap, a few years ago stock looked like crap, barrel was missing blue, action was solid..clean..

-Snoopz
 
My problem with finding an R700 to build off of is that I'm a lefty... and those things are a needle in a haystack so it seems!!
 
RSKYBSNS said:
My problem with finding an R700 to build off of is that I'm a lefty... and those things are a needle in a haystack so it seems!!
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Yeah I'm one of the special people. Lefty..
They are hard to find, that's for sure..will check around up north..
Don't you just like brass flying by your head when you shoot semi's? That's one thing you ain't got to worry about with HK's to the right and way forward.

-Snoopz
 
Snoopz said:
Yeah I'm one of the special people. Lefty..
They are hard to find, that's for sure..will check around up north..
Don't you just like brass flying by your head when you shoot semi's? That's one thing you ain't got to worry about with HK's to the right and way forward.

-Snoopz
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My biggest problem is with 22s. They blow so much trash back it's insane. So I stick with my CZ457 even though it's a righty. Whereabouts up north are you digging for left handed actions if ya dont mind me asking?
 
MD. / PA. Around that area.
Yeah 22's are nasty, have the Ruger 10-22's, an old Rem 581, old Belgium Browning T- bolt in Left Hand. 12 ga out of a Rem 1100 is bad, right by the side of your face, shot a lot of trap / Skeet.
Most all of my other rifles are rights for the most part.

-Snoopz
 
Good choice. If you were still looking for a rem700 for a donor action, I’d highly recommend against it. I’ve had a few built off them and they shot well but by the time you have bought it and “accurized it”, you might as well have bought a custom clone.
 
Jimbob78 said:
Good choice. If you were still looking for a rem700 for a donor action, I’d highly recommend against it. I’ve had a few built off them and they shot well but by the time you have bought it and “accurized it”, you might as well have bought a custom clone.
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I agree. When I punched numbers, it didn't really make sense either.
 
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