Thinking of first suppressor purchase. HELP!

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So I’ve been on the fence for awhile. Really want to start with a 22 lr can or at least something that is user serviceable. My main concern,and it’s probably silly,but is purchasing/owning a suppressor a open invitation for visits from 3 letter agency or local law enforcement for inspection and whatnot?
 
9mm is also a great round to suppress.
Many cans will work for multiple calibers.
You are lucky, there are over a dozen companies to choose from all of which make excellent gear, 25 years ago it was 3 companies.

No matter what anyone tells you, 45ACP will never be that quiet, because you have a half inch hole going through your suppressor!

Most rifles (except 300 Blackout subsonic ) will still be pretty loud, the bullet itself makes a sonic boom breaking the sound barrier.

Used serviceable can be good.
If you take the can apart you can drop or lose baffles or small parts.
Most cans can be cleaned without disassembly.

Many cans can be fired “wet” with an ablative media, this will usually result in a 1-3 decibel difference (really big as every 3 decibels doubles the sound)
Dog Slobber is the official ablative media but generic wire pulling gel works just as good.

Getting a heat pouch to keep the suppressor in and let it cool off without burning or melting anything is probably a good idea.

Use a trust. Personal ownership is fine, but you are more protected using a trust and most are free or minimal in cost.

Get ready to be like a little kid saying “are we there yet? Are we there yet?” Every day your can is in atf jail…
 
Thanks for all the responses. Now I just have the job of choosing one that will be a good rifle and pistol suppressor.
 
Freedomblaster93 said:
Thanks for all the responses. Now I just have the job of choosing one that will be a good rifle and pistol suppressor.
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wait, you want one for both?
buddy, you're about to go down a rabbit hole the likes of which alice never dreamed.

count on getting a rifle can (.30) a pistol can (9mm, maybe 45 if you can get different end caps) and a rimfire can. there's no one can that can do all of them well. but you can minimize your purchases if you do it smartly.
I did not do it smartly.
 
Freedomblaster93 said:
Thanks for all the responses. Now I just have the job of choosing one that will be a good rifle and pistol suppressor.
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While this is a fine idea for simplicity’s sake, and very versatile, it may be disappointing from a performance standpoint-
There are fans that do it all, but they tend to be larger and more robust, and do not tend to perform as well as dedicated cans.

Also, with most Browning designs the barrel tilts, so the weight of the suppressor can cause cycling issues. However most modern suppressors have a Nielsen Device, a Linear Inertial Decoupler, that allows the pistol to cycle reliably.
Most rifles do not have the Browning tilt barrel design so their internals are different.

As written above, you are probably better off getting at least one of each.


Additionally, while a 30 caliber can can be used on say 5.56, make sure it is rated for this, as the explosive and hot gasses, known as Dragons Breath, tend to be destructive to the can’s internals, and the dragon’s breath has more room to wiggle in a 30 cal can being used on a 5.56 rifle.
A lot of modern cabs use InConel and Titanium internals so this is not an issue.

Also, no matter what, from date of purchase you have a 6 month (if God really likes you) MINIMUM wait, right now closer to 9-12 month wait.
So get the right cans, don’t cheap out, as in 9 months to a year your bank accounts will have recovered.
 
The end caps mentioned above can help as well.

The internals will handle multiple calibers, and the end cap is set to a specific caliber, known as a “cheater” cap.
This helps a large bore can be a little quieter when shooting a smaller caliber.
You need to be careful so as to not forget that the 5.56 cap is on when you are shooting 9mm or 308, or you will have a very bad day.

Also, remember this- decibel ratings are subjective as they use parabolic microphones and a bunch of other hooey nonsense to record and rate the cans.
Fine and dandy, your ears process sound differently than all the above, so it’s not always an apples to apples comparison.
That being said, a 3 decibel decrease or increase is literally half or double the previous measurement as sound wave and pressure levels are geometric in their expansion not linear.
 
DrScaryGuy said:
wait, you want one for both?
buddy, you're about to go down a rabbit hole the likes of which alice never dreamed.

count on getting a rifle can (.30) a pistol can (9mm, maybe 45 if you can get different end caps) and a rimfire can. there's no one can that can do all of them well. but you can minimize your purchases if you do it smartly.
I did not do it smartly.
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He said 22 in the first post…which would make sense for rimfire pistol and rifle.
 
Freedomblaster93 said:
Thanks for all the responses. Now I just have the job of choosing one that will be a good rifle and pistol suppressor.
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If you want a no-brainer decision, stop thinking about it and buy a Dead Air Mask.

Or if you want to suffer from paralysis by analysis, lemme know and I’ll give you a dozen recommendations you can pick apart feature by feature in your spare time.
 
Yeah so to clarify I want a suppressor that will work with rim fire rifle and rim fire pistol. Deeper down the rabbit hole will be several more for my center fire rifles and pistols.
 
.22 is a great choice , I have a Gemtech Outback II - small , light and user serviceable for cleaning

We use our 9mm can more than any. It can be used on handguns or PCCs. It’s not the smallest or lightest but on a longer PCC you do not notice. The manufacturer builds strong enough to put on larger rifle calibers as well such as 5.56mm and 7.62x39. We have several QD muzzle devices and switch around. It does a good job of suppressing 5.56 even though the bore ID is larger than the .22 call from the 5.56mm
 
So after doing a bunch of looking, I’m really liking the dead air mask. Who all have used one? POI shift minimal? How was accuracy affected?
 
Another vote for the dead air mask.
I looked at the silencerco monocore models but even though it was a little more expensive the mask was the better choice for me
 
Freedomblaster93 said:
How is the accuracy? I have an American in 6.5 Grendel that shoots nicely,but I’ve never shot one of the .22
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It’s probably more accurate than I am. As with most 22LR rifles, you’ll have to find the ammo that works best for your particular firearm.
 
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