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Anyone know if you can put in hand pump wells or do you need power and electric pump? I don’t have power to my land yet and don’t want to run it yet but I’d like a well/water.

I wouldn’t mind running electric off a generator if I wanted to pump a lot for irrigation etc but since I don’t have constant power I didn’t know if that’d be a permitting issue.
 
I have seen some doing solar setups for livestock waterers in remote locations so that maybe another option to look at.
 
Depends on the depth. The deeper the water table the more expensive the hand pump. And that's up to a point I forget what it is but at some point you can't use a hand pump, the name Buffalo stands out for deep and pumps.
 
I was close. Bison.

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Maybe a solar powered pump is an option depending on your budget.
DSI in Wilmington sells them
 
When you are saying irrigation, what volume are you talking? For my irrigation I’m running a 5hp on a 4” well pumping 92 gal/min.
 
I was out in west Texas this past October and solar powered wells are a big thing there. To the point where high GPM setups are available and for deep wells.

There are variable voltage DC powered submersible well pumps available that are as powerful as their 240VAC counterparts. We’re talking 20GPM+ @ 500’ depth setups. Folks out there use them for livestock and even house wells.
 
You’ll have to get permitted to dig the well, of course you know that. I’m not sure how far they go with putting that stuff in. If you can get a well dug, cased and plugged, you can add your own 12v pump and solar setup that would be fairly inexpensive for the return you would get.
Here’s an example of a pump

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Amarine Made 12V DC Submersible Deep Well Water Pump 3.2GPM 4" Max Lift 230 Ft | eBay

Amarine Made 12V 800gph Livewell Pump fr Boat Livewell Aerator Pump Aerator Pump. Amarine Made 1500GPH 12V Boat Bilge Pump Plumbing Electric Pump & Float Switch. Amarine Made 12V 60W Oil Change Pump Extractor Oil/Diesel Fluid Pump Transfer RV.
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I would never have thought a 12V pump could lift 230 feet at over 3 gpm. There is an incentive to use a higher voltage when installing a DC pump.
 
MacEntyre said:
I would never have thought a 12V pump could lift 230 feet at over 3 gpm. There is an incentive to use a higher voltage when installing a DC pump.
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A 3 GPM pump at 12V runs between 7 and 8 amps, and this is for a horizontal run.

The one in the link above needs 10 amps.

If I start with 12V at the top of the well, and can tolerate 10% voltage drop to the pump, I need to use a 4AWG copper cable. Yes, 4AWG.

What am I missing here?
 
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Jimbob78 said:
When you are saying irrigation, what volume are you talking? For my irrigation I’m running a 5hp on a 4” well pumping 92 gal/min.
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Not much, 1-2 acres if needed, but it gets decent rainfall. I’d have to look up flow calculators.
 
Mathieu18 said:
Anyone know if you can put in hand pump wells or do you need power and electric pump? I don’t have power to my land yet and don’t want to run it yet but I’d like a well/water.

I wouldn’t mind running electric off a generator if I wanted to pump a lot for irrigation etc but since I don’t have constant power I didn’t know if that’d be a permitting issue.
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I used to have a little place in Boiling Springs. The water would literally spout up out of the ground there. A small generator such as sold by HF and a 110v pump will supply water and I am not aware of any code against it. The only things is how close are the neighbors and what are the the noise restriction hours. Side note: HF has a generator that is super quiet.
 
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A 3 GPM pump at 12V runs between 7 and 8 amps, and this is for a horizontal run.

The one in the link above needs 10 amps.

If I start with 12V at the top of the well, and can tolerate 10% voltage drop to the pump, I need to use a 4AWG copper cable. Yes, 4AWG.

What am I missing here?
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Grundfos SQFlex submersible pumps run on both AC as well as DC voltage (up to 300v), up to 79gpm and 800' depth. They are used in in solar / electric well installations in West Texas. During the day they run on solar, and at night can run on AC. Most of those installations utilize a holding tank and secondary pump to provide pressure to the house. These are commercial grade quality systems.

Because of the high voltage, current losses are minimized.
 
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Grundfos SQFlex submersible pumps run on both AC as well as DC voltage (up to 300v), up to 79gpm and 800' depth. They are used in in solar / electric well installations in West Texas. During the day they run on solar, and at night can run on AC. Most of those installations utilize a holding tank and secondary pump to provide pressure to the house. These are commercial grade quality systems.
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A Grundfos pump and pressure tank is what I use at my home here, where I do not have city water. 290', 7GPM, 240V @ 20A.

I was referring to the Asian made low-voltage DC pumps, and the costly and unworkable electrical wiring they'd appear to need if operated at or near their supposed lift ratings.
I'm puzzled to know if I am not considering some aspect of physics in questioning their specifications.
 
Depth of well? OP location says Southport NC if anywhere near that location you can basically drive a well point into the ground and get water.
 
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