Dumbest thing youve heard in a gun shop

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That’s why he didn’t say 1910


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The Original guns Had grip safeties. What they Did Not have was a thumb safety. People get confused about this. Remember they were for men on horseback. The JMB autos had grip safeties but not thumb safeties.
Mr. Browning had way more confidence in the troops than the War Department did.
 
Once had a rather rude thinks he knows everything about guns guy come in looking for "a real man's gun" which when i asked for clarification was a 1911. Conversation went lime this

Customer :I don't like that dumbass thing on the back
Me: sir that is a grip safety. All 1911s have those.
Customer: well I don't want that.
Me: fine sir we have hundreds of other handguns i can show you
Customer : no I want a 1911. Show me one without that grip thing
Me: every 1911 will have that sir. That is how they are made
Customer: (clearly trying to talk down to me) oh yeah since when
Me: since 1911
Customer: .........
Me: good day to you sir

I actually laughed at this one.
 
Big box store, asked if they had 6.5X55 Swede ammo. Clerk has no idea and asks what it is. I reply its an old military round from WW1. Imediate reply was "We don't sell military calibers".
I pointed out that they should remove all the 9mm, 30-06, 308, 223, 45-70, 45ACP, 38 SPL from behind the counter.
CF
 
Big box store, asked if they had 6.5X55 Swede ammo. Clerk has no idea and asks what it is. I reply its an old military round from WW1. Imediate reply was "We don't sell military calibers".
I pointed out that they should remove all the 9mm, 30-06, 308, 223, 45-70, 45ACP, 38 SPL from behind the counter.
CF

Someone at a LGS in Lincoln County and is no longer open never heard of .327 Federal Magnum....
 
The Original guns Had grip safeties. What they Did Not have was a thumb safety. People get confused about this. Remember they were for men on horseback. The JMB autos had grip safeties but not thumb safeties.
Mr. Browning had way more confidence in the troops than the War Department did.


From the Browning website:

“Based on the short recoil principle of operation, the John M. Browning design for the US Military pistol trials was a magazine fed, single action semi-automatic pistol with both manual and grip safeties that demonstrated a level of durability, simplicity and reliability that no other pistol design of the era could match. In fact, during a 6,000 round test fired over two days in 1910 that was personally supervised by John M. Browning, his sample pistol became so hot that it was simply dunked in a pail of water to cool it for further firing. Browning’s sample reportedly passed the test with no malfunctions.

Since cavalry troops were going to be the primary combat users of the pistol, several specific design features, like the grip safety and lanyard ring, were mandated by the horse soldiers. (Nothing will turn a cavalry trooper into an infantryman faster than shooting his own horse by accident.) “

Apparently it looks like he showed them both, and then mandated the grip safety as well.


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From the Browning website:

“Based on the short recoil principle of operation, the John M. Browning design for the US Military pistol trials was a magazine fed, single action semi-automatic pistol with both manual and grip safeties that demonstrated a level of durability, simplicity and reliability that no other pistol design of the era could match. In fact, during a 6,000 round test fired over two days in 1910 that was personally supervised by John M. Browning, his sample pistol became so hot that it was simply dunked in a pail of water to cool it for further firing. Browning’s sample reportedly passed the test with no malfunctions.

Since cavalry troops were going to be the primary combat users of the pistol, several specific design features, like the grip safety and lanyard ring, were mandated by the horse soldiers. (Nothing will turn a cavalry trooper into an infantryman faster than shooting his own horse by accident.) “

Apparently it looks like he showed them both, and then mandated the grip safety as well.


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That was the Model of 1905 and 1910 that didn't have the grip safety.

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1900 no GS or TS
1905 same as above'
1907 GS introduced
1909 same as above
1910 8 pistols sent to trial with GS..6 sent back for addition of TS
Mr. Google has a pictorial progression of each model as it was submitted.


See: Evolution of the 1911 in pictures...Range Hot on Mr. Google
 
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1900 no GS or TS
1905 same as above'
1907 GS introduced
1909 same as above
1910 8 pistols sent to trial with GS..6 sent back for addition of TS
Mr. Google has a pictorial progression of each model as it was submitted.


See: Evolution of the 1911 in pictures...Range Hot on Mr. Google

I was just going by what was sent in for testing. And I did the Google. I’m a good Googles.


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I had an "expert" come into the store once. Dude was a wannabe YouTuber which I only remember because he kept reminding me he hadba youtube channel as if having one makes you magically smarter than everyone else.

A list of stupid things he said:

· The Maverick 88 is not a Mossberg product.
· The 124 grain Remington Golden Sabres I had on the shelf were not real Golden sabres. Even went so far as to say they weren't self defense ammo they were practice ammo.
· Critical Duty and Critical Defense are brands.
· Ball ammo is worthless for practice.
· 9mm or smaller are worthless for carry but 45 is too much.
· 38 special is all women should carry in a snubbie because they cant handle 40.
"Expert" I call them gun store commando's....lol! we have one in our town who stops in every place a gun is sold to share his gift of firearms knowledge...
 
"Expert" I call them gun store commando's....lol! we have one in our town who stops in every place a gun is sold to share his gift of firearms knowledge...



We had one of those who used to come to the gun show in Greenville. Everything there he had one of and knew everything there was to know about guns.
 
I overheard a SEAL(Ret.) telling my buddy (who owns a local gun store) that his ATI Omni Hybrid (polymer AR) is just as good as the Daniel Defense Mk18 that was on the gun store counter.
 
I overheard a SEAL(Ret.) telling my buddy (who owns a local gun store) that his ATI Omni Hybrid (polymer AR) is just as good as the Daniel Defense Mk18 that was on the gun store counter.

Sure he was a SEAL & not a former cook & bottle washer?
 
"Expert" I call them gun store commando's....lol! we have one in our town who stops in every place a gun is sold to share his gift of firearms knowledge...

We have one in my town too. He'll show up at the local gun shop and stick around for hours, telling stories of how he used to be a cop/soldier/special forces/rambo to anyone who will listen. And also give his unsolicited opinions to customers on whatever they're buying. The local gun stores don't like him, but they put up with him because he spends a lot of money on guns and ammo too.
 
i was in a gun store once upon a time. There i am browsing with the clerk and then out of nowhere he says, check this one out. I looked over my shoulder and there was this beautiful woman standing there, she says can somebody please help me? I need a gun. The guy looked at me like a puppy who needs to go outside and pee so i gave him back the 3 handguns i was bouncing back and forth between and gave him the nod. She says i wanna carry a gun for protection. The clerk hands her a sig 1911 and says you cant do better than this, adding that its only 999$ which is a really good deal. She asked if its easy to figure out as she has never owned a gun in her life. Oh yea, should i ring it up? At that point, I couldn't help myself and I interjected for a sec to ask a few questions to the lady. where are you planning on carrying this gun? in my purse she says... Ok do you know the difference between single action, single/double, striker fired guns? No. Ok, have you ever fired a handgun? No. Are you in a hurry for any particular reason? No. I explained a little bit about the differences and how they might affect her while trying to carry around comfortably and safely. She admitted that she was clearly in over her head. Based on my recommendation, she decided to go to range and try a few different guns in different calibers and make an informed decision after that. She thanked the clerk and myself and left without purchasing anything. The clerk says you just cost me a sale, thanks a lot. then walks off, forgetting he was helping me before the lady came in. I shrugged and started my way out the door and the owner came up to me and thanked me for taking the time to help a newbie vs just getting them into something that they are more likely to hurt themselves than anything else. he offered me a job but honestly the pay was so low i wouldn't have been able to put gas in the truck to get there and back so i passed. I went back to that store a few months later and that clerk was no longer working there...I was fine with that.
 
If I go to a car dealership I am NOT expecting:
1. experts of cars
2. experts of driving
3. experts at anything related to either of the above, aside from the taking money part.

I have similar expectations at gun stores.
 
Sadly, he really was. He does PMC work now. He looked at a Galil ACE 5.56 on the wall and said “those HKs are pretty good”.
Seriously now. I take your word for it, but... I don't know what the Navy's/SEALs equivalent of a company is. However, in that equivalent there had to be some clerks etc. who don't wear the trident. Nevertheless, they can say they were a in a SEAL company or whatever it's called The same with a Force Recon company in the Marine Corps.
Funny story. The 5th & 6th Marine Regiments wear a green braided rope around their left shoulder called a fourragere (a reminisant of the unpleasantness in Belleau Wood in 1918). I know of a wise-a$$ years ago who on one occasion told the groupies that hung around some of the bars in Jacksonville that indicated the wearer had venereal disease. While not original it was funny that night even after the fists started flying.
 
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Sadly, he really was. He does PMC work now. He looked at a Galil ACE 5.56 on the wall and said “those HKs are pretty good”.

Sadly, having known a number of guys who were active Seals, Delta or similar. Not many will anounce their "history" of service or volunteer certain information without a reason. However, since the release of so many movies on the topic, along with both good and bad press, I have heard more people profess to be operators of extraordinary caliber and many times I know they're full of shat!

Stolen valor is a stylish impression to present these days!
 
Seriously now. I take your word for it, but... I don't know what the Navy's/SEALs equivalent of a company is. However, in that equivalent there had to be some clerks etc. who don't wear the trident. Nevertheless, they can say they were a in a SEAL company or whatever it's called The same with a Force Recon company in the Marine Corps.
Funny story. The 5th & 6th Marine Regiments wear a green braided rope around their left shoulder called a fourragere (a reminisant of the unpleasantness in Belleau Wood in 1918). I know of a wise-a$$ years ago who on one occasion told the groupies that hung around some of the bars in Jacksonville that indicated the wearer had venereal disease. While not original it was funny that night even after the fists started flying.
And the 4th Machinegun Bn.

former K/3/6 here :)
 
Was it the 4th or 5th MG battalion or regiment. Should have looked it up first and I'll do that now.
According to Wikipedia (for what that's worth) it was the 4th and 6th machine gun battalions. Couldn't find a USMC reference on it which might be more accurate. I seem to recall though that only one machine gun battalion was so honored by the French.
 
Sadly, having known a number of guys who were active Seals, Delta or similar. Not many will anounce their "history" of service or volunteer certain information without a reason. However, since the release of so many movies on the topic, along with both good and bad press, I have heard more people profess to be operators of extraordinary caliber and many times I know they're full of shat!

Stolen valor is a stylish impression to present these days!

Prior to going to work as a PMC, he applied for a deputy position. One of the officers asked him about his service after he was offered but declined the job and went to work as a PMC. Other than that, I know nothing else about him. I have only ran into him a couple of times. He was serious about the ATI comment. He was surprised when the store owner advised him to keep a close eye on the ears at the front takedown pin.
 
Sadly, having known a number of guys who were active Seals, Delta or similar. Not many will anounce their "history" of service or volunteer certain information without a reason. However, since the release of so many movies on the topic, along with both good and bad press, I have heard more people profess to be operators of extraordinary caliber and many times I know they're full of shat!

Stolen valor is a stylish impression to present these days!


99.9% of the time if they talk about it then it is mostly talk and nothing more. I have known a few over the years and you can't drag info about what they did out of them with a 4wd. They simply will not talk about it.


And none I have known consider themselves a hero.
 
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The first ones I met was during an operation called Eagle Claw and they were Delta. Seriously scary dudes! I had been an infantry man in C co, 1st Bn, 8th Marines for 3 years prior to a lateral move to aviation. I was a CH-53 Crew Chief for the trip and these guys were SERIOUS compared to anybody I had dealt with previously. Some of them were prior Navy UDT and I hope they got some serious counselling upon leaving the military.
 
I went to a local indoor range today to visit one of my Pards and while I was there I bought a pistol. Before I could get out...maybe 15 minutes in all, I heard some of the stupidest Shiite I've heard in a long time. It was the second time I had been in the place in 20 years. I swore I wouldn't go back after the first visit but..you know...a new pistol and a visit Lured me back in.
From the movie A Pack 'o Lips Now...."don't get off the boat!" Mine is.. Don't go out the Gates!!!!
 
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