Protester shot in austin TX

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What astounds me is that these mobs are almost holding the cities hostage. Portland, Seattle, Oakland, LA and quite a few others are being held hostage by groups of a few hundred people at most because of liberal leadership and the fact citizens of these cities are not demanding (maybe they are just not loud enough) for something to be done. I have no clue as to what costs in property damage, overtime for LEO’s, etc that will come out of the cities’ pockets not to mention loss of business revenue (which also costs the cities’ tax sales tax revenue and such). I guess I am to stupid to see “the good” these “social justice warriors” are doing for our future like all the liberals allowing it to happen in their cities but I sure can see the immediate costs.
 
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Protestors say that car “almost” hit protestors so they were “slapping” it to tell him to slow down. I say if he didn’t hit you, don’t mess with his stuff.

Protestors say that as armed protestor approached, driver rolled down the window, shot armed protestor 3 times and then drove off. Obviously need more facts but that he rolled down the window raises an interesting point about this type of situation.

My first instinct is to say leave the window up and stay inside, there is no reasonable explanation for shooting from the inside of a closed car. But on reflection, a guy with a rifle at close range can easily kill me right through the glass so the glass isn’t a barrier against his threat. Conversely the glass is a significant impediment to defending myself with a pistol. Driver was in a position where he either had to increase his physical risk by rolling down the window to have the option to use lethal force against the attacker, or he had to evade the attacked by driving over other folks. Hopefully he didn’t just shoot the guy for walking up with a slung rifle.

I wonder if this will lead protestors to march with their rifles slung on their backs so they don’t have hands on weapons all the time.
 
Don't want to be shot? Don't block the street, don't go "slappin" peoples cars, don't go pulling open peoples car doors while you are blocking the street, don't be carrying a rifle while doing all this.
If this would start happening on a regular basis, the protesters numbers would go down.
 
"...and the fact citizens of these cities are not demanding (maybe they are just not loud enough) for something to be done."

That's because if they ask for something to be done they have their lives ruined by the media / social media.
 
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keep in mind the “quadriplegic” comment seem to be started by a hysterical hippie who met them a few days ago
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She looks like an amputee ... both lower legs and at least her left arm below the elbow ...

There is a video taken by one of the protesters ... as best as I can see the car blows its horn and the protesters (can’t see the car or the guy supposedly who was shot from the angle) head towards it and a few seconds later about 5 rounds are fired and the cockroaches scatter and the car drives off. There is a rumor one of the protesters was trying to open the car door. This is going to get real interesting real fast.

Funny thing the LEO’s the cockroaches are protesting are on scene in less than 30 seconds after the shots are fired and start rendering help ... but these idiots want to defund them.

Start the popcorn ... this will really stir up the cockroaches and the way the liberal Austin mayor and DA Office will likely cow down to them I’m betting means the guy in the car who shot the protester better lawyer up quick and his family better hide cause they’ll be doxed by noon today.
 
Was this the only protestor that was armed? If not, in what situation would his armed comrades support him if not when someone opens fire on him? The protestors have the hardware, they don’t seem to have the software.
 
JimB said:
Was this the only protestor that was armed? If not, in what situation would his armed comrades support him if not when someone opens fire on him? The protestors have the hardware, they don’t seem to have the software.
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I spotted one of the guy open carrying a pistol
 
yeah, there was more than 3 shots. It sounded like 2 sets of shots were fired first set was 5 then a few seconds later 4 shots not sure if it was all from the same gun, either way, we know who got hit. Before long it's gonna not be just one person shooting. Eventually, you'll get enough people ticked off that there'll be a group of goons who'll go out and shoot a crapload of these idiots, that's when all hell will break loose. That's just my opinion
 
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She looks like an amputee ... both lower legs and at least her left arm below the elbow ...

There is a video taken by one of the protesters ... as best as I can see the car blows its horn and the protesters (can’t see the car or the guy supposedly who was shot from the angle) head towards it and a few seconds later about 5 rounds are fired and the cockroaches scatter and the car drives off. There is a rumor one of the protesters was trying to open the car door. This is going to get real interesting real fast.

Funny thing the LEO’s the cockroaches are protesting are on scene in less than 30 seconds after the shots are fired and start rendering help ... but these idiots want to defund them.

Start the popcorn ... this will really stir up the cockroaches and the way the liberal Austin mayor and DA Office will likely cow down to them I’m betting means the guy in the car who shot the protester better lawyer up quick and his family better hide cause they’ll be doxed by noon today.
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and did you notice them start cursing the LEO's after they were trying to get them to move out of the way?? I'd said fine you do it we'll go back and watch
 
He is on video saying that they aren't allowed to protest in the streets anymore, so he has to exercise some of his rights... I can somewhat applaud that, but think he needed some better understanding of how his rights don't necessarily override everybody else's. and surroinding a car, raising a rifle and shooting isn't really a right either.
 
Cities need to stop allowing protest in streets and highways. Gave a permit to PEACEFULLY ASSEMBLE in front of the Capital or City Hall. You don't have the right to impede traffic.

The way I interrupt the YT video was car sounded horn (no room for weaving in and out trying to hit them), protesters swarmed the car, guy with AK fired first into car and then driver ended the threat. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Wife is an activists just like him it seems. She had both arms and legs amputated after sepillis (sp).

CD
 
Yep, sounds like the guy with the AK fired first.
 
Not to be Debbie Downer, but for all we know the driver got out and presented his pistol first but wasn’t really prepared to shoot or fumbled the safety and the protestor fired first in self defense.

Do hope that the driver has an attorney.
 
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In the photo you can see a guy who sure looks like Foster to the side of the car raising a rifle, the stock is covering the lower part of his face. In the same photo the brake lights are on so the driver has his foot on (the 3rd brake light in the rear window is lit) the brake peddle so the driver likely was not exiting the car. This with the audio of 5 shots (pretty loud) followed by 3 different shots (more muffled) are supporting a narrative Foster fired 5 rounds first and the driver return fire with 3 rounds ... the number that struck Foster.

This going to be a major PITA for the police to deal with ... the APD and Texas DPS will dig thru evidence and then the DA (Austin’s has been liberal leaning for years) will have to decide how to use or twist it. If things do turn out in favor of the driver ... crap will fly just as if a LEO shot a black man ... they’ll scream coverup and riot.

ETA: if Foster’s AK was fired ... especially if the mag is down 5 rounds that will show he fired first.
 
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DrScaryGuy said:
Quadruple amputee, yes.
Quadriplegic? No. She's lifting her arm in the picture... And the article you posted says she uses her nub to type.
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Thank you; the post has been changed to use the correct description.
 
The leading edge of a wave of this if cops don't start doing cop things.
 
there is no reasonable explanation for shooting from the inside of a closed car.
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  • folks on the outside are shooting or threatening to fire in;
  • folks on outside are breaking windows or attempting to break in/gain ingress;
  • folks on the outside might be attempting to tip over the car;
  • folks on the outside might be lighting combustibles potentially setting the car on fire.
Do you need more?
 
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  • folks on the outside are shooting or threatening to fire in;
  • folks on outside are breaking windows or attempting to break in/gain ingress;
  • folks on the outside might be attempting to tip over the car;
  • folks on the outside might be lighting combustibles potentially setting the car on fire.
Do you need more?
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Lol, context matters.
 
JimB said:
Lol, context matters.
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You mean this? "Driver was in a position where he either had to increase his physical risk by rolling down the window to have the option to use lethal force against the attacker, or he had to evade the attacked by driving over other folks."

Presumably, this is why the advanced handgun course with which I am familiar included shooting from inside a car through a windshield.
 
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GreatGazoo said:
You mean this? "Driver was in a position where he either had to increase his physical risk by rolling down the window to have the option to use lethal force against the attacker, or he had to evade the attacked by driving over other folks."

Presumably, this is why the advanced handgun course with which I am familiar included shooting from inside a car through a windshield.
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Update from APD

Mob swarmed the vehicle, blocking its travel
Foster may have pointed his AK at driver. Rifle not fired
Driver shot foster with CHP handgun. Got out of dodge and called 911. Pulled over and cooperated with police and released.
Protester Medic drew and fired his CHP handgun at fleeing car. Interviewed and released by police
Police have all 3 weapons and vehicle.

https://www.kut.org/post/austin-pol...fired-handguns-deadly-incident-during-protest


Cause Rioters surrounding vehicle touched off powder keg.


CD
 
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Combat Diver said:
Mob swarmed the vehicle, blocking its travel
Foster may have pointed his AK at driver.
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So, the question is: what would the proverbial reasonable person think is happening when a mob swarms their vehicle, blocking them in and one of them approaches you with a rifle and it looks like they’re pointing it at you.

Bonus points question, what would a cop do? Hint, same standard should apply because the threat is the same.
 
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