Kyle Rittenhouse 17 year Old Shoots 3 kills 2....
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nothing in life is free - the lawyers may be footing the bill until they win their massive settlement...
but they need coffee and snacks now, so pitch a few bucks into their fundraiser!
Do we really know Kyle took that head shot on #1 guy, I think somebody else did it, why take a head shot when center chest is a lot easier to do?
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I think at that point they were fighting over the gun. If I read correctly somewhere #1 had different hits over his body. Head shot took him down.
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The $15-an-hour "protest" payments probably don't look worth dying for.
GO FUND ME killed Kyle's fundraiser. He may have others by now. Just to note..... They killed it.
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Interesting note that the atty claims the rifle never crossed state lines...
Lawyer: Illinois Teen Charged With Kenosha Shootings, Kyle Rittenhouse, A ‘Scapegoat’ Who May Fight Extradition
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The attorney representing Illinois teen Kyle Rittenhouse, who is charged with homicide for shooting Kenosha protesters, told Forbes Saturday his “current intent is not to waive” extradition back to Wisconsin, where the teen could face a life sentence if convicted, and where the attorney said he could face threats of bodily harm while in custody.
KEY FACTS
Rittenhouse’s lawyer, John Pierce, had issued a three-page statement Friday, arguing for the innocence of his client, who faces six criminal charges, on self-defense grounds and vilifying the protesters as being “determined to hurt Kyle,” and a “mob,” echoing a phrase used by President Trump to describe protesters.
Pierce, who also has represented Trump’s personal attorney Rudy Giuliani and former adviser Carter Page, followed that up Saturday in an interview with Forbes, saying he feels Rittenhouse would be in danger if sent to Wisconsin, where he has been charged as an adult.
“He shouldn’t be detained anywhere,” said Pierce, adding that “In Wisconsin he’s considered an adult, and he's going to be placed potentially in a very, very dangerous adult population, general population in a situation in which ... there are forces within the country right now that are trying to figure out a way for people to cause him harm.” (He did not specify any specific threats but said “take a look online.”)
Pierce, who has flown to Illinois to be near the juvenile facility where Rittenhouse is being held, said he was still “looking at our options,” with respect to extradition but said he fears for Rittenhouse’s safety if sent to Wisconsin.
Pierce also accused “the government of Wisconsin, the mayor and the governor” of “trying to use [Rittenhouse] as a scapegoat to cover up … the situation with the Jacob Blake case” —though he didn’t fully explain what he meant.
Surprising fact
In his statement, Pierce said the weapon Rittenhouse used in the shootings “did not cross state lines,” when Rittenhouse traveled from his home in Illinois to Wisconsin. Pierce would not say Saturday whose weapon it is or how it came to be in the possession of a 17 year old, which resulted in a weapons charge in addition to the homicide charges. “I'm not going to comment on the specifics of the litigation, but the weapon did not cross state lines,” Pierce said.
crucial quote
Asked if his client had any remorse about the shootings, Pierce said he could not discuss his conversations with Rittenhouse but added, "what I can tell you is that he knows he did not do anything wrong and we're gonna prove it at trial."
key background
Demonstrations broke out in Kenosha after Blake, a Black man, was shot in the back seven times Sunday by a Kenosha police officer. In the protests that followed, a shooting—captured on video, which quickly went viral—appeared to show a male fatally shoot two people and injure another. Rittenhouse was allegedly the person in the video and was charged Thursday in Wisconsin with five felonies, according to documents in the Wisconsin Circuit Court, including first-degree reckless homicide, first-degree intentional homicide (which can carry a life prison term), attempted first-degree intentional homicide and two counts of first-degree recklessly endangering safety. Rittenhouse also was charged with possession of a dangerous weapon by a person under 18, after he carried out the shootings with what was identified in the complaint as a Smith & Wesson AR-15 style .223 rifle. (Pierce also said he plans to fight that charge based on the argument that at 17, Rittenhouse would be eligible to be part of a “well regulated Militia,” that is protected by the Constitution.) Pierce said he is a co-founder of the #FightBack Foundation Inc., a Texas foundation created, the statement said, “to protect law abiding American citizens whose rights are being trampled on by state and local governments that are more concerned with appeasing mobs than protecting those rights.” The foundation, which already is raising money for Rittenhouse, is covering the legal fees, he said.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/karenr...egoat-who-may-fight-extradition/#32a73bf85db2
Lawyer: Illinois Teen Charged With Kenosha Shootings, Kyle Rittenhouse, A ‘Scapegoat’ Who May Fight Extradition
TOPLINE
The attorney representing Illinois teen Kyle Rittenhouse, who is charged with homicide for shooting Kenosha protesters, told Forbes Saturday his “current intent is not to waive” extradition back to Wisconsin, where the teen could face a life sentence if convicted, and where the attorney said he could face threats of bodily harm while in custody.
KEY FACTS
Rittenhouse’s lawyer, John Pierce, had issued a three-page statement Friday, arguing for the innocence of his client, who faces six criminal charges, on self-defense grounds and vilifying the protesters as being “determined to hurt Kyle,” and a “mob,” echoing a phrase used by President Trump to describe protesters.
Pierce, who also has represented Trump’s personal attorney Rudy Giuliani and former adviser Carter Page, followed that up Saturday in an interview with Forbes, saying he feels Rittenhouse would be in danger if sent to Wisconsin, where he has been charged as an adult.
“He shouldn’t be detained anywhere,” said Pierce, adding that “In Wisconsin he’s considered an adult, and he's going to be placed potentially in a very, very dangerous adult population, general population in a situation in which ... there are forces within the country right now that are trying to figure out a way for people to cause him harm.” (He did not specify any specific threats but said “take a look online.”)
Pierce, who has flown to Illinois to be near the juvenile facility where Rittenhouse is being held, said he was still “looking at our options,” with respect to extradition but said he fears for Rittenhouse’s safety if sent to Wisconsin.
Pierce also accused “the government of Wisconsin, the mayor and the governor” of “trying to use [Rittenhouse] as a scapegoat to cover up … the situation with the Jacob Blake case” —though he didn’t fully explain what he meant.
Surprising fact
In his statement, Pierce said the weapon Rittenhouse used in the shootings “did not cross state lines,” when Rittenhouse traveled from his home in Illinois to Wisconsin. Pierce would not say Saturday whose weapon it is or how it came to be in the possession of a 17 year old, which resulted in a weapons charge in addition to the homicide charges. “I'm not going to comment on the specifics of the litigation, but the weapon did not cross state lines,” Pierce said.
crucial quote
Asked if his client had any remorse about the shootings, Pierce said he could not discuss his conversations with Rittenhouse but added, "what I can tell you is that he knows he did not do anything wrong and we're gonna prove it at trial."
key background
Demonstrations broke out in Kenosha after Blake, a Black man, was shot in the back seven times Sunday by a Kenosha police officer. In the protests that followed, a shooting—captured on video, which quickly went viral—appeared to show a male fatally shoot two people and injure another. Rittenhouse was allegedly the person in the video and was charged Thursday in Wisconsin with five felonies, according to documents in the Wisconsin Circuit Court, including first-degree reckless homicide, first-degree intentional homicide (which can carry a life prison term), attempted first-degree intentional homicide and two counts of first-degree recklessly endangering safety. Rittenhouse also was charged with possession of a dangerous weapon by a person under 18, after he carried out the shootings with what was identified in the complaint as a Smith & Wesson AR-15 style .223 rifle. (Pierce also said he plans to fight that charge based on the argument that at 17, Rittenhouse would be eligible to be part of a “well regulated Militia,” that is protected by the Constitution.) Pierce said he is a co-founder of the #FightBack Foundation Inc., a Texas foundation created, the statement said, “to protect law abiding American citizens whose rights are being trampled on by state and local governments that are more concerned with appeasing mobs than protecting those rights.” The foundation, which already is raising money for Rittenhouse, is covering the legal fees, he said.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/karenr...egoat-who-may-fight-extradition/#32a73bf85db2
You mean.... you mean... you mean the hysterical hand wringing in here pontificating about how carrying a rifle across state lines may mean that loyal members of OUR FORUM may have been... (gasp!) RUNNING WITH MEDIA STORIES AND ADOPTING THEIR NARRATIVE!?!?!?! Oh my goodness! Beauregard, pass me the smelling salts! I may faint! Next thing you know, someone will be saying that WI law on age/carry may not mean life in prison for Kyle! The earth has moved and nothing is solid anymore!
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I'm also a skeptic on the assumption that Kyle shot Mr. SHOOT ME N***A! . It's not on any video I've seen. The Kenosha Kid's actions on video immediately following Chromedome-Down also don't look like a guy that just had a life-or-death physical struggle over a rifle. I think the dear departed may have stepped-up and volunteered to stop a stray bullet. ...Even maybe from lefty. A close-range head-shot also would have made a much bigger mess IMO, and I saw no evidence of that (or of "different hits over his body") on the Daily Caller video of the newly-very-peaceful protester being carried to/loaded into the car trunk.
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People can't seem to separate those two acts wholeheartedly. But he can both break the law by having a gun and be protecting yourself from a violent mob using said weapon.
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They loaded that protester into a car trunk???
If'n he was daid, isn't that messing with a crime scene?
If'n he was daid, isn't that messing with a crime scene?
There’s a Daily Caller writeup about it that I read because it was linked from this forum. He was still alive (barely) and they were giving aid and trying to get him to a hospital that was nearby
EDIT - found it a couple pages back, posted by @Chuckman
https://amp.dailycaller.com/2020/08...kenosha-shootings-heres-what-really-happened?
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What I liked about that write up was that they not only witnessed, but were direct participants and their narrative conflicts with the one being given by the left.
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You have to remember who "they is". They is immune to prosecution. Or so it seems. If they can loot and burn without consequences I doubt messing with a crime scene will get them prosecuted.
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How Riots Work
by Molly Edmonds
Mob Mentality
When a group of people has assembled because they're emotional and angry about something, it only takes one act of violence to whip the crowd into a fury. Others will follow the initial rioter's lead and begin destroying property or hurting people. A lot of research has been conducted into the mindset of a violent mob. Being part of a group can destroy people's inhibitions, making them do things they'd never otherwise do. They lose their individual values and principles and adopt the group's principles, which, during a riot, are usually to cause destruction and avoid detection.
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Like I've been saying US 10 Code 246, males age 17-45 yo are part of the unorganized militia.
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One of the videos here had the autopsy report. The headshot was only a grazing shot it said. He also had one in the thigh and hand, I think, but the fatal shot was one that hit the left lung and liver. I'll try to find it and post.
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I thank you for the clarification and I stand corrected. I had not heard or seen that.
Dr. P. Douglas Kelley of the Milwaukee Medical Examiner’s office determined that Rosenbaum suffered one gunshot to the groin that fractured his pelvis, another to the back which perforated his right lung and liver, another to the left hand, a superficial gunshot wound to his lateral left thigh, and a graze wound to the right side his forehead.
https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2020/0...-in-kenosha-shooting-that-killed-2-wounded-1/
https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2020/0...-in-kenosha-shooting-that-killed-2-wounded-1/
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Coroner's report is in the Criminal Complaint from the city (last paragraph). I believe the fatal round was the groin/pelvic shot. Still would like to know about the shot in the back (lung/liver) that might have been from someone else.
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The photos and videos I have seen did not seem to show any exit wounds to the front or side so the bullet, if recovered, might be interesting.
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How amazing would it be to find out that "fake medic" tried to take a long handgun shot to protect his friend, but accidentally shot him in the back, killing him!
Then"fake medic" continued to chase after Kyle and ended up getting shot in the elbow...
People tend to turn away from the person shooting them, usually faster than the shooter can recognize and stop shooting.
I don't care that he's 17, I don't care where the rifle came from. Only thing that is revelant is that his reactions to being in fear for his life were reasonable.
Anyone that is crazy enough to try to attack you while you have a rifle slung on your chest, deserves all the gunpowder burned to stop the attack.
I don't care that he's 17, I don't care where the rifle came from. Only thing that is revelant is that his reactions to being in fear for his life were reasonable.
Anyone that is crazy enough to try to attack you while you have a rifle slung on your chest, deserves all the gunpowder burned to stop the attack.
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How would you like to be the Ken-Osha DA about right Now. I don't think so doodley doo, don't cha know.
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I think that's as close as I could get to typing that accent.
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Best bet is to turn the case over to the Feds, after all this calls for transparency and helps with your reelection.
I always said shots to the pelvic girdle area will end a fight quickly.
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dome guy had total of 5 wounds from total of 7 shots fired.
forensics will obviously determine if all from same weapon.
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The eye witness says dome was fighting for the gun.
It was probably like bumpfire, bullets going everywhere.
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I hope that if I were to die violently, people wouldn't have the opportunity to say: "His stupidity killed him."
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Well, he kept begging for it.
Guy was 5 feet tall, why is it always the little guy?
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One thing easily overlooked among all the madness and more important things is....
there were quite a few people in Kyles group. All armed. It’s interesting to me, that Dome Boy chose who he perceives to be the weakest/lowest threat to intimidate.
obviously didn’t end well for him, but that’s what ya get for being an aggressive commie butthole
Same reason they drive around in big oversized trucks.