9mm Suppressor Suggestions

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Hey all,

I decided to ditch my dedicated .22LR suppressor for a 9mm model. I would like a can with a small diameter so that I can use it with normal pistol sights. I'll be using it on 9mm pistols, .22LR pistol, and .22 LR rifle (possibly a 9MM PCC). This suppressor will be mainly for pistols, and im not going above 9 mm except in revolvers. It doesn't need to be overly modular or tacticool. It doesn't need to be user serviceable.

I'm looking at the Dead Air Odessa and the Yankee hill R9 but I'd like to hear your opinions. (because those are the low and high end of my budget). The "small diameter" requirement may have to go because that limits me to cans with a diameter of about 1.25 inches. I can be flexible on this criteria, but ideally I'd like a can compatible with normal sights.

I could spend up to $1200 (including stamp) but I'd rather keep it below $1k.

Bring on the wisdom!
 
RugerP89DC said:
Hey all,

I decided to ditch my dedicated .22LR suppressor for a 9mm model. I would like a can with a small diameter so that I can use it with normal pistol sights. I'll be using it on 9mm pistols, .22LR pistol, and .22 LR rifle (possibly a 9MM PCC). This suppressor will be mainly for pistols, and im not going above 9 mm except in revolvers. It doesn't need to be overly modular or tacticool. It doesn't need to be user serviceable.

I'm looking at the Dead Air Odessa and the Yankee hill R9 but I'd like to hear your opinions. (because those are the low and high end of my budget). The "small diameter" requirement may have to go because that limits me to cans with a diameter of about 1.25 inches. I can be flexible on this criteria, but ideally I'd like a can compatible with normal sights.

I could spend up to $1200 (including stamp) but I'd rather keep it below $1k.

Bring on the wisdom!
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Barely any two thoughts in this post go together. For example, you want a small diameter can but say you’re looking at a YHM R9. It has a bigger OD than a majority of rifle cans. Then you say both 22LR pistol and rifle…yet you say it doesn’t need to be user-serviceable.

Most 9mm pistol cans are going to be overkill on a 22LR host…way too big and heavy. You really need two. And you could almost do that for $1200 including stamps.
 
When you say you ditched your .22lr suppressor, does that mean you no longer have it? I ask because it would open up your options and be much better if you had a .22lr can versus trying to use a 9mm can on .22lr.
I would also say you do in fact need a user serviceable can if shooting .22lr, unless it’s able to be “dipped”.
 
What he said.

The rugged obsidian 9 was the top dog pistol can.
The Griffin Optimus might be an option.

You really dont want to use a non serviceable can with any ammo that has exposed lead, such as most 22 lr.

A dedicated rimfire can typically works better on a rimfire. You might get less back pressure with a 9mm can but you might not be able to tell the difference with your ear on a semi auto.

Most rimfire cans are 1 inch in diameter. Most any 22lr handgun or rifle will work with this diameter.
 
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BigWaylon said:
Barely any two thoughts in this post go together. For example, you want a small diameter can but say you’re looking at a YHM R9. It has a bigger OD than a majority of rifle cans. Then you say both 22LR pistol and rifle…yet you say it doesn’t need to be user-serviceable.

Most 9mm pistol cans are going to be overkill on a 22LR host…way too big and heavy. You really need two. And you could almost do that for $1200 including
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BigWaylon said:
Barely any two thoughts in this post go together. For example, you want a small diameter can but say you’re looking at a YHM R9. It has a bigger OD than a majority of rifle cans. Then you say both 22LR pistol and rifle…yet you say it doesn’t need to be user-serviceable.

Most 9mm pistol cans are going to be overkill on a 22LR host…way too big and heavy. You really need two. And you could almost do that for $1200 including stamps.
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Yeah I know what size the R9 is, as I said, I'm willing to be flexible on the diameter criteria. I am looking for a suppressor that can be "dipped," I understand that .22 will foul a suppressor. When I say I ditched my .22 suppressor I mean I ditched the idea of going for a dedicated .22 can in favor of something with more versatility.

Edit: My original plan was a dedicated .22 LR can, but then my cheapness took over and I started looking for a 9mm. It sounds like that is a bad idea. What do you think of doing a .22 dedicated (user serviceable) and then a cheap option like an R9?

Edit 2: My .22 pistol host is a TX22, so its fairly good sized, if light.

Thanks for the input.
 
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Honestly, with your budget, I’d go with a rimfire can and a 9mm can. Even with 2 stamps, you can still get both for under $1200 and be better off for your desired wants. Rugged Oculus and YHM R9 can be bought for under $400 each, if you are patient (minus the stamps)
 
BTW…if my first reply came off harsh, it wasn’t intended that way. Your post just seems to imply you have little experience with silencers, and you’re looking for a solution that I can almost guarantee you will result in buyer’s remorse. Ok, maybe not remorse as you will potentially have a decent 9mm can you could use for that caliber…but seeking a one-can solution for the two calibers discussed isn’t the route most anybody would recommend.
 
BigWaylon said:
BTW…if my first reply came off harsh, it wasn’t intended that way. Your post just seems to imply you have little experience with silencers, and you’re looking for a solution that I can almost guarantee you will result in buyer’s remorse. Ok, maybe not remorse as you will potentially have a decent 9mm can you could use for that caliber…but seeking a one-can solution for the two calibers discussed isn’t the route most anybody would recommend.
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You're fine. I appreciate the advice! I am new to silencers, I have shot a dedicated .22 and a .30 many times but I've never owned one. Damn, I really wanted a one can solution.
 
Thanks everyone. Well I guess I will switch the question up. What would you suggest for a budget .22 can, and then a second can with more versatility.
 
I mean it’s physically doable with something like an Octane 9 or the aforementioned Obsdian/Revolution. You just end up with a massively oversized can on your 22 pistol.

If you dead set on doing it…just make sure to go user-serviceable. And if it was modular so you could use the short version for 22, even better. That just goes against most things you originally posted. 😎
 
RugerP89DC said:
You're fine. I appreciate the advice! I am new to silencers, I have shot a dedicated .22 and a .30 many times but I've never owned one. Damn, I really wanted a one can solution.
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I know a “one can solution” sounds very tempting, and a few companies make what they consider to be a one can solution, but I don’t think any of them excel at any one job outside of versatility. A friend of mine has a SiCo hybrid and now wants a pistol can and rifle can. Of course they could’ve bought both for about as much as they paid for the Hybrid in the first place. Classic case of “jack of all trades, master of none”.

Buy a dedicated .22lr can. If it make sense to buy a dedicated can for anything, it’s .22lr.

The R9 would be one of my last choices for a pistol can, and I own one. It’s designed for PCC’s, plus as you know it’s the farthest from being compatible with OEM sights.

Considering the number of great options we have these days, you can get 2 good cans for $1200 and will definitely be much happier with their performance. I view cans as a lifetime purchase, so there’s no point in compromising for the sake of $100-200… and I’m all about getting the most “bang for my buck”/best value.
 
Thanks! Sounds like a dedicated .22 is the way to go. I will step it up to a second one at some point.
 
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As a multi can owner and as others have said. for .22lr you get a .22lr can Element 2, Mask, Ghost. etc and for 9mm you can get either of 9mm can or a 45 can with a 9mm end. I and most others do not feel you will get the best of either if you go after 22 and 9mm together. Most people get a ~30calish can for rifles, 22lr can, and a 45lr can. This covers all ranges roughly. An example would be an Omega 30cal (rifle) , Element 2 (22lr), and Obsidian 45 for pistol (9mm 45acp). That all said, if you're looking movie quiet you're pissing into the wind with the exception of a 22 can with CCI 22quiet. That combo is a rabbit fart. You're new, but @BigWaylon's comments should be taken as near gospel.
 
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Thanks, I'm familiar with the .22, .45, .30 approach. I was hoping that since I'm sticking to 9mm and below from here on out I could lump the bottom two categories together. Sounds like that is not the best idea.

This is why I asked and I appreciate everyone's input, I didn't mean to sound defensive.
 
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RugerP89DC said:
Thanks, I'm familiar with the .22, .45, .30 approach. I was hoping that since I'm sticking to 9mm and below from here on out I could lump the bottom two categories together. Sounds like that is not the best idea.

This is why I asked and I appreciate everyone's input, I didn't mean to sound defensive.
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nah you don't defensive. I was in your place 8 yrs ago with the same questions etc we all want the most for the best buck. If 22lr wasn't so dirty it would work but .22lr just spits lead and wax/lube all over (I clean it out after 1.5k CCI SV). Yes a dirty can is a quiet can, but IMO I think you would be disappointed if you tried to bridge the two. The wait sucks but if you can I'd get a 22lr can (smaller and less weight which is less shift in point of aim) and a pistol can (capable of at least 300 blk subsonic).
 
Ok, that seems to be the consensus. Any suggestions for a .22 can? It will go on a Ruger American .22 bolt, and TX22 (which has cycled well with everything I have put through a dead air mask).
 
RugerP89DC said:
Ok, that seems to be the consensus. Any suggestions for a .22 can? It will go on a Ruger American .22 bolt, and TX22 (which has cycled well with everything I have put through a dead air mask).
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Mask or Element 2 (element 2 existed before the mask but same designer) for a can with low First round pop. I'm not sure on all the new modular click-together cans which I think are just a gimmick. If you want a suppressor, you want quiet, and another inch isn't going to matter. There should be more recommendations soon. I think if I were in for another 22lr can I'd pick up a mask. Pappas knows it stuff.
 
tod0987 said:
As a multi can owner and as others have said. for .22lr you get a .22lr can Element 2, Mask, Ghost. etc
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Element 2 hasn’t been made in a couple years
Ghost is a 45 can

…but the Mask is a good recommendation.

🤓🤣
 
RugerP89DC said:
Im looking at the Mask and the Sparrow right now.
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Yes. And NOOOOOOOO!!!!!

🤣🤣🤣

Sorry, just not a fan of the Sparrow.
Mask
Oculus
TBAC TD22
Switchback
Halcyon
Nyx
Mustang
Spectre
Hydra SS
…and some others.
 
Ok, what would be your #1 choice?

I like: mask, halycon, Nyx
 
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RugerP89DC said:
Ok, what would be your #1 choice?
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If I was forced to order a rimfire can right this minute (I already have 9), I’d most likely buy a Mask. If for some reason I decided I wanted a modular can, I’d buy an Oculus…but only because I don’t know enough about the Mustang (just released, same company for both).
 
BigWaylon said:
Element 2 hasn’t been made in a couple years
Ghost is a 45 can

…but the Mask is a good recommendation.

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Its been awhile any granny points that I mentioned you in the previous posts lol. Still going to be hard to beat a Mask or Element 2 on FRP. Maybe the Oculus. But we both agree the Sparrow is a hard pass in favor of better options.
 
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BigWaylon said:
If I was forced to order a rimfire can right this minute (I already have 9), I’d most likely buy a Mask. If for some reason I decided I wanted a modular can, I’d buy an Oculus…but only because I don’t know enough about the Mustang (just released, same company for both
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Thanks! Thats what I'm getting. They said to take your word as gospel, plus thats the 1 .22 silencer I'm familiar with. Providence.
 
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Ok, last question. What is the buy it now price? Anything sub $400?
 
Most anything that's "one size fits all" ends up not being very good at anything. You're on the right track in picking up the "right tool for the right job".

I'd make sure on the 22 can you're getting, that you get one that is "sleeved" so that you can actually get it apart after a few hundred dirty .22 rounds. There is a LOT of good choices out there these days. Let us know what you get! :)
 
I form 1'd an XRT tactical for my .22lr can. It works well.

I'm going to form 1 a .30 cal can next. Dino precision internals, 7.5"

I'll probably buy a form 4 .45 can when the time is right.

It's so much time/money invested in cans that you want to make sure you do it right. Go with the multi-can approach as you'll be much happier in the long term and not have to go through the process a second time to get what you want.

I like your idea of buying the mask for .22lr. You're familiar with it, know it works on your host, and know what to expect.

/rambling.
 
BigWaylon said:
Yes. And NOOOOOOOO!!!!!

🤣🤣🤣

Sorry, just not a fan of the Sparrow.
Mask
Oculus
TBAC TD22
Switchback
Halcyon
Nyx
Mustang
Spectre
Hydra SS
…and some others.
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Not trying to threadjack but curious of your dislike of the sparrow. If you have 9 rimfire cans curious to hear your thoughts on the sparrow.

Full disclosure, I don’t own one but am tempted at the $299 price point and reviews it gets
 
NCWalrus said:
Not trying to threadjack but curious of your dislike of the sparrow. If you have 9 rimfire cans curious to hear your thoughts on the sparrow.

Full disclosure, I don’t own one but am tempted at the $299 price point and reviews it gets
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It does a great job shielding the core from the tube. But it’s the absolute biggest pain to disassemble and reassemble compared to anything else I’ve ever messed with.

I bought it for my PS90, which ended up being a horrible decision performance wise. Now it’s dedicated to a RAR 22LR because of FRP on pistols.

It has one redeeming quality besides the clamshell design. You can’t leave the mount on the barrel because the tube came unscrewed, because the 1/2-28 threaded portion is part of the monocore. This design feature makes it an outstanding option for something like the TacSol 10/22 shrouded barrel (assuming the lengths work out) or any other application where most of the van is tucked inside a rail.

At one time the Sparrow was the darling of the industry…but it’s overshadowed by a great many cans these days that I’d much rather deal with.
 
BigWaylon said:
It does a great job shielding the core from the tube. But it’s the absolute biggest pain to disassemble and reassemble compared to anything else I’ve ever messed with.

I bought it for my PS90, which ended up being a horrible decision performance wise. Now it’s dedicated to a RAR 22LR because of FRP on pistols.

It has one redeeming quality besides the clamshell design. You can’t leave the mount on the barrel because the tube came unscrewed, because the 1/2-28 threaded portion is part of the monocore. This design feature makes it an outstanding option for something like the TacSol 10/22 shrouded barrel (assuming the lengths work out) or any other application where most of the van is tucked inside a rail.

At one time the Sparrow was the darling of the industry…but it’s overshadowed by a great many cans these days that I’d much rather deal with.
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Makes sense on all points, I didn’t realize the disassembly challenges or FRP issues. The cost difference is not significant between it and a TBAC 22TD for example.

Thanks for the info.
 
For a light 22lr can I really enjoy the gemtech 22 can. Weighs as much as an a2 flash hider. Perfect for light 22lr pistols. I got one for the kids to use and didn't want a 9oz can off of a 14oz pistol. Silencerco makes a warlock as well which is similar to the spectre just in aluminum...

The gm22 isn't shielded but I havent had any issue taking it apart I and I will shoot several hundred rounds of thunderbolt or old federal ammo at a time.. just Crack it loose every 300 rounds or so.

I run it on a calico and a 10/22 with a binary so it sees some rounds in a session for sure

If weight isn't too much of a concern the mask has become almost the standard. It isn't overly heavy mind you just fair bit more than the gemtech

9mm the octane is a real solid can that is overlooked lately. It isn't the newest or shiniest but it works very well.
 
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NCWalrus said:
Not trying to threadjack but curious of your dislike of the sparrow. If you have 9 rimfire cans curious to hear your thoughts on the sparrow.

Full disclosure, I don’t own one but am tempted at the $299 price point and reviews it gets
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Thread jack away! I got a lot of useful advice, take the conversation wherever you want.
 
Ok guys, I'm back. Silencerco has a bogo suppressor event going on. Spend $599 before tax and get a free Warlock .22. Should I buy a nicer 9mm suppressor to get the warlock? This sounds like a pretty good deal. Any experience with the warlock?
 
I have a couple Warlocks. They’re light enough it feels like they forgot to put the baffles in the tube. It’s limitations are (1) 22LR only and (2) aluminum baffles so your cleaning options are somewhat limited. Those two things shouldn’t drive you away from it, just need to be aware.

I’m not seeing that promo with a quick glance. I do see the Rugged promo with gift cards. Wonder if you could buy an Obsidian 45, get the $100 SS gift card in time to buy a Rugged Mustang. You’d end up with another $100 SS card, plus two $200 Rugged gift cards to buy pistons, mounts, etc.
 
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