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Guess this is the next Marvel live action show coming to D+?

ETA: Premieres on 8/17/22

I’ll give it a shot since it won’t cost me any extra $$.

 
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Or if you prefer it in Spanish…

 
I, for one, am appalled by DisMarvelKnees' misogynistic titling. Everyone knows that "She" is just "He" with an S tagged on - you know, "S" as in subjugate or slave. It simply won't do.

In order to free women of all genders from such male tyranny, they must immediately remove the offensive H's from the title and let the individual power of Womyn shine!

"S-Ulk: Attorney Appalled"








Author's note: I fully expect some richly-deserved hate-posting from our esteemed female members for my post. However, in accordance with my Once a Little Brother, Always a Little Brother philosophy, I will take the verbal beat-down with my customary worth it! (tm) attitude. Carry on.
 
9mmEverything said:
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The Critical Drinker mentions it in some of his videos including the one I posted above. The writers for the Disney + shows and the movies as of late suck. Most are not comic book fans and it shows. Same formula for almost all of the shows.

-The hero is a guest star in his own limited series (Hawkeye, Loki, Moon Knight) or movies (Dr. Strange 2).
- The heroine saves the hero. One Youtuber did a count of how many times red/pink/whatever Scarab saves Moon Night. High score.
-The heroine is is just as good if not better than the Hero. See the Disney + series. If they do that with Lady Thor I'm going to be pissed. There was an actual comic story line of Jane being sick and dying (cancer I think). Transforming to Lady Thor makes her almost invincible like Thor. When she transforms back to Jane she gets sicker. I have no problem with that story line but there as absolutely NO WAY these character should be just as good or better than the original (Lady Thor shouldn't be as strong as Thor. She-Hulk shouldn't be as strong as Hulk). Yet Marvel keeps prodding along with their formula and "message."
-The hero's powers a diminished for the TV shows (Loki, etc). Loki was good in the movies. Sucked on the tv series.

While I am at it, I enjoyed Thor Ragnorak but something about Valkyrie bugged me besides what they are pushing as her story. So a drunk Valkyrie subdues Thor THE GOD OF THUNDER buy tazing him? Really. She beats Loki in a fight. Really? Even while play fighting the Hulk she holds her own. Really.
 
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easternnc4me said:
While I am at it, I enjoyed Thor Ragnorak but something about Valkyrie bugged me besides what they are pushing as her story. So a drunk Valkyrie subdues Thor THE GOD OF THUNDER buy taking him? Really. She beats Loki in a fight. Really? Even while play fighting the Hulk she holds her own. Really.
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oh, you mean the greenguy so powerful (and just gets more powerful when he starts losing a fight) that they had to trick him and ship him off to a different planet by himself because they couldn't control him?
 
DrScaryGuy said:
oh, you mean the greenguy so powerful (and just gets more powerful when he starts losing a fight) that they had to trick him and ship him off to a different planet by himself because they couldn't control him?
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Yeah, I put that on last night when I was fiddling with optics and it really does set Thor up as weaker than he was before even as he gets new power.
 
I like listening to the Critical Drinker, but his rant here acts as if this is something new.

Comics have ALWAYS spun off female characters as far back as I can remember (and I can remember buying 15 can't comics). They've done it with animals, to.

Superman, Supergirl, Krypto to name a example. Heck, they make supervillians out of them, too. Remember Bizarro?

Big deal.

The comics did it for very obvious reasons at times, too. Nothing sells to the primary male adolescent comic book market like big t***y, tight *ssed hot babes with skimpy costumes painted on them.

She-Hulk made her first appearance 42 frickin' years ago and has gone through many iterations. The version we've seen in the trailers doesn't portray her as anything special with respect to the current social BS going on. She's just...female.

Again, big deal.

If the show goes off on a serious tangent about this, then maybe I'll change my mind.
 
RetiredUSNChief said:
I like listening to the Critical Drinker, but his rant here acts as if this is something new.

Comics have ALWAYS spun off female characters as far back as I can remember (and I can remember buying 15 can't comics). They've done it with animals, to.

Superman, Supergirl, Krypto to name a example. Heck, they make supervillians out of them, too. Remember Bizarro?

Big deal.

The comics did it for very obvious reasons at times, too. Nothing sells to the primary male adolescent comic book market like big t***y, tight *ssed hot babes with skimpy costumes painted on them.

She-Hulk made her first appearance 42 frickin' years ago and has gone through many iterations. The version we've seen in the trailers doesn't portray her as anything special with respect to the current social BS going on. She's just...female.

Again, big deal.

If the show goes off on a serious tangent about this, then maybe I'll change my mind.
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Previously they didn't do it by emasculating the male characters though.
 
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Previously they didn't do it by emasculating the male characters though.
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I'm not seeing "emasculation" here in the trailers.

Talking sh*t a bit, sure. But who doesn't do that?

Again... all we've got are a few selected seconds in trailers to work with.
 
RetiredUSNChief said:
I'm not seeing "emasculation" here in the trailers.

Talking sh*t a bit, sure. But who doesn't do that?

Again... all we've got are a few selected seconds in trailers to work with.
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I'm talking about Marvel in general, they're doubled down on making everything strong wammanz and minorities and they're cheerfully capping all over existing characters to do it. Which is pretty much what they've done in the comics previously to be fair.
 
NCLivingBrit said:
I'm talking about Marvel in general, they're doubled down on making everything strong wammanz and minorities and they're cheerfully capping all over existing characters to do it. Which is pretty much what they've done in the comics previously to be fair.
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Yeah, I agree.

But it looks like they've realized they've p*ssed of a significant fraction of their movie ticket buying crowd with Brie Larson's antics and are working damage control as a result.

I'll give any movie/show the benefit of the doubt (so long as Tom Cruise isn't in it) until I've actually seen what they've done with it.
 
RetiredUSNChief said:
Yeah, I agree.

But it looks like they've realized they've p*ssed of a significant fraction of their movie ticket buying crowd with Brie Larson's antics and are working damage control as a result.

I'll give any movie/show the benefit of the doubt (so long as Tom Cruise isn't in it) until I've actually seen what they've done with it.
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I work it differently and assume they've crapped all over the character unless they prove otherwise. Saves me from seeing a lot of bad movies and shows lol
 
Superhero shows appeal very heavily to my inner kid. I love them all, even the bad ones (like the 1994 Fantastic Four movie that was never officially released in any format).

If they end up sucking, I just won't see them again.
 
I thought she was working the johnny depp trial...

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easternnc4me said:
The Critical Drinker mentions it in some of his videos including the one I posted above. The writers for the Disney + shows and the movies as of late suck. Most are not comic book fans and it shows. Same formula for almost all of the shows.

-The hero is a guest star in his own limited series (Hawkeye, Loki, Moon Knight) or movies (Dr. Strange 2).
- The heroine saves the hero. One Youtuber did a count of how many times red/pink/whatever Scarab saves Moon Night. High score.
-The heroine is is just as good if not better than the Hero. See the Disney + series. If they do that with Lady Thor I'm going to be pissed. There was an actual comic story line of Jane being sick and dying (cancer I think). Transforming to Lady Thor makes her almost invincible like Thor. When she transforms back to Jane she gets sicker. I have no problem with that story line but there as absolutely NO WAY these character should be just as good or better than the original (Lady Thor shouldn't be as strong as Thor. She-Hulk shouldn't be as strong as Hulk). Yet Marvel keeps prodding along with their formula and "message."
-The hero's powers a diminished for the TV shows (Loki, etc). Loki was good in the movies. Sucked on the tv series.

While I am at it, I enjoyed Thor Ragnorak but something about Valkyrie bugged me besides what they are pushing as her story. So a drunk Valkyrie subdues Thor THE GOD OF THUNDER buy tazing him? Really. She beats Loki in a fight. Really? Even while play fighting the Hulk she holds her own. Really.
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I don’t know where Natalie Portman’s gets her Mjölnir since it was destroyed by Hela (maybe somewhere in the multiverse?), but if she is worthy to wield it, should her power not be equal to Chris Hemsworth’s Thor?
 
9mmEverything said:
I don’t know where Natalie Portman’s gets her Mjölnir since it was destroyed by Hela (maybe somewhere in the multiverse?), but if she is worthy to wield it, should her power not be equal to Chris Hemsworth’s Thor?
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What I was trying to say was Disney/Marvel has the formula of the female hero gaining power and almost immediately is just as good if not better than the original. Such as the Scarab lady in Moon Knight. Do I think lady Thors powers that she has had for 10 minutes should be on par with Thors who has been doing it for centuries? Nope. Same with She-Hulk. She shouldn’t be as strong as the Hulk. Disney Plus will make it so.
 
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I think it was the 90s era X Men comics and most of the Movies show a minority (Mutants) want equality with the majority (non mutants). That has been the over arching theme for most all of the X Men series. As for powerful heroines, Jean Gray, Rogue, and Storm are central figures in the Stories and they are just as powerful if not more so than the males in the shows. So the feminine equity isn't anything new in the comics or movies.
 
cold1 said:
I think it was the 90s era X Men comics and most of the Movies show a minority (Mutants) want equality with the majority (non mutants). That has been the over arching theme for most all of the X Men series. As for powerful heroines, Jean Gray, Rogue, and Storm are central figures in the Stories and they are just as powerful if not more so than the males in the shows. So the feminine equity isn't anything new in the comics or movies.
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No but the female supremacy thing is. Look at almost any Marvel (or Disney) property and you will see brand new female characters being written as better than every male character and established male characters being written as incompetent butts of every joke. The lead male characters in most shows are just there to get the established name in there as bait before they are supplanted by wamminz. Hell look at Star Trek Picard, he's a sniveling pathetic joke in the show with his name on it. It's standard current practice.
 
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easternnc4me said:
What I was trying to say was Disney/Marvel has the formula of the female hero gaining power and almost immediately is just as good if not better than the original. Such as the Scarab lady in Moon Knight. Do I think lady Thors powers that she has had for 10 minutes should be on par with Thors who has been doing it for centuries? Nope. Same with She-Hulk. She shouldn’t be as strong as the Hulk. Disney Plus will make it so.
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I think Jane’s powers should be equal, but her skill in wielding them should be awkward at best. She hasn’t been training for thousands of years.
 
9mmEverything said:
I think Jane’s powers should be equal, but her skill in wielding them should be awkward at best. She hasn’t been training for thousands of years.
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Doesn't Thor now have the Odin Force? If so, Jane shouldn't be his equal. Maybe if its a straight comparison between Thors capabilities when he only welded Mjolnir.
 
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NCLivingBrit said:
The lead male characters in most shows are just there to get the established name in there as bait before they are supplanted by wamminz. Hell look at Star Trek Picard, he's a sniveling pathetic joke in the show with his name on it. It's standard current practice.
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this is kind of bugging me in Picard
i get that he's old... but without spoiling the show... he shouldn't be so decrepit. He always preferred to talk his way through problems rather than fight like Kirk... but he really shouldn't be cowering like he has been, while the women run the show and do all the action.
 
NCLivingBrit said:
No but the female supremacy thing is. Look at almost any Marvel (or Disney) property and you will see brand new female characters being written as better than every male character and established male characters being written as incompetent butts of every joke. The lead male characters in most shows are just there to get the established name in there as bait before they are supplanted by wamminz. Hell look at Star Trek Picard, he's a sniveling pathetic joke in the show with his name on it. It's standard current practice.
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I can't think of any instance, besides Valkery, where this stands out in my mind. Now the entire Hulk/Thanos fight still makes me mad though.

As for the new Star treks, Picard isn't too bad with it but Discovery is Super Woke. I dont think they have a straight character in the entire show that isn't dependant on a female.

Star Trek strange new worlds seems to be balanced so far.
 
9mmEverything said:
I think Jane’s powers should be equal, but her skill in wielding them should be awkward at best. She hasn’t been training for thousands of years.
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I disagree. Thor IS Thor. Jane TRANSFORMS into Lady Thor. That's the difference. And to quote Odin -"Are you Thor the god of hammers?"
 
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