1. I’ll leave this for somebody local to you1. I want to start the NFA process. I'm in Durham, NC. Can anyone recommend dealers near RTP I can have suppressors ordered to near here, shops that stock suppressors, or engravers?
2. Is it generally better to order cans online(which looks much cheaper) and pay an NFA transfer fee, or buy at a dealer?
3. Is it bad for rifles to use 5.56 suppressors on rifles without adding an adjustable gas block or doing other tuning? I have mostly factory uppers from mid tier brands and don't want to tear them apart.
4. Are DIY trusts recommended? Are NFA trust services any more trustworthy? Seems like there should be a "fill in personal details" ready made trust document out there somewhere.
Thank you for your help.
I want to start the NFA process. I'm in Durham, NC. Can anyone recommend dealers near RTP I can have suppressors ordered to near here, shops that stock suppressors, or engravers?
Is it generally better to order cans online(which looks much cheaper) and pay an NFA transfer fee, or buy at a dealer?
Is it bad for rifles to use 5.56 suppressors on rifles without adding an adjustable gas block or doing other tuning? I have mostly factory uppers from mid tier brands and don't want to tear them apart.
Are DIY trusts recommended? Are NFA trust services any more trustworthy? Seems like there should be a "fill in personal details" ready made trust document out there somewhere.
Thank you for your help.
Triangle Shooting Academy (Brier Creek) works with online SilencerShop.com so you can buy from them, do paperwork at TSA and pay no transfer fees (nor shipping, IIRC).I want to start the NFA process. I'm in Durham, NC. Can anyone recommend dealers near RTP I can have suppressors ordered to near here, shops that stock suppressors, or engravers?
Is it generally better to order cans online(which looks much cheaper) and pay an NFA transfer fee, or buy at a dealer?
you save $200 per item by putting them on a trust at first purchase as opposed to purchasing as an individual and then transferring them to a trust...Question for folks who understand trusts: do you save a lot of $ if you start with a trust vs. creating a trust down the road? If so, what decisions do you need to make up front to create a trust? In my case I just wanted to get on with it and buy a suppressor so I didn't get a trust, but now I wonder if I made a mistake. Seems like a trust will be needed at some point.
FWIW, I bought my suppressors at Silencer Shop and used the kiosk at Carolina Gunrunners in N Raleigh. No transfer fees and everything went smoothly.
The 2990 Durham Rd, Roxboro, NC 27573 location is most relevant for Rock City Guns. This is also the southernmost location that's closest to Durham, and it's the one that's staffed/open each day. (The other location is their original/first store ... which they no longer have firearm displays in and now use for smithing, fabrication, CHP classes, etc.) Their ability to handle NFA firearms was finalized during the pandemic and BLM rioting ... and their FTF business is brisk ... so their website doesn't receive a lot of love.Rock City Guns: 49/57 minutes, they have two locations. Their site doesn't have any nfa fees or information anywhere on it, and there are very few suppressors listed on their website, none under brands like Dead Air, Surefire, etc. Weird. They're much closer than THSF and surrealone's recommendation had me interested. Definitely calling them.
Clayton Guns: 45 minutes away. 75-100$ per transfer(does this include ones bought on site? which are cheaper?) online per website. 35$ "technology fee". Offers engraving, cost not listed on site. Doesn't say what suppressors they deal, just refers to SilencerShop. @JohnFreeman do they make any deals, or do as a SilencerShop dealer do they go by SilencerShop web prices(like TSA below)? Those are usually high.
if you're not opposed to driving, i have done business with The Rock and Rhudys here in Fayetteville and both have taken good care of me at low prices.Thanks for all the help. @BigWaylon thetrustshop.net has a few users here, is only 50$, and seems to have tools for the future modifications to the trust. This looks like a good option.
Thanks.
Clayton Guns: 45 minutes away. 75-100$ per transfer(does this include ones bought on site? which are cheaper?) online per website. 35$ "technology fee". Offers engraving, cost not listed on site. Doesn't say what suppressors they deal, just refers to SilencerShop. @JohnFreeman do they make any deals, or do as a SilencerShop dealer do they go by SilencerShop web prices(like TSA below)? Those are usually high.
Triangle Shooting Academy: 17 minutes away. 100$ transfer fee only for suppressors bought online, but in store or SilencerShop prices are MSRP(@surrealone thanks for the heads up). Additional 5$ fee for all transfers.
Rock City Guns: 49/57 minutes, they have two locations. Their site doesn't have any nfa fees or information anywhere on it, and there are very few suppressors listed on their website, none under brands like Dead Air, Surefire, etc. Weird. They're much closer than THSF and surrealone's recommendation had me interested. Definitely calling them.
Tar Heel State Firearms: 2 hrs 20 min. Engraving 30$. They "handle fingerprints". If that doesn't mean a SilencerShop kiosk, that might be good. "Incoming" suppressor transfer is only 85$. The silencers on their website are MSRP, of course. Does anyone know how far below MSRP they sell, and how they handle fingerprints? If I don't have to go there more than once to buy and once to pick up items, it might be worth a couple of long drives.
Fuquay Gun and Gold doesn't accept incoming NFA transfers. No NFA transfer details on their website.
SecundusSystems: I'm close to Pittsboro often, but his website is totally empty. Not a phone number, email, or address. @SecundusSystems Can you help?
I can rule out TSA. I'll have to call the others tomorrow. Other suggestions are appreciated.
@Fred I need to keep my shop with a low profile for a few reasons but I am legit. My info is listed on: https://www.silencershop.com/secundus-systemsThanks for all the help. @BigWaylon thetrustshop.net has a few users here, is only 50$, and seems to have tools for the future modifications to the trust. This looks like a good option.
Thanks.
Clayton Guns: 45 minutes away. 75-100$ per transfer(does this include ones bought on site? which are cheaper?) online per website. 35$ "technology fee". Offers engraving, cost not listed on site. Doesn't say what suppressors they deal, just refers to SilencerShop. @JohnFreeman do they make any deals, or do as a SilencerShop dealer do they go by SilencerShop web prices(like TSA below)? Those are usually high.
Triangle Shooting Academy: 17 minutes away. 100$ transfer fee only for suppressors bought online, but in store or SilencerShop prices are MSRP(@surrealone thanks for the heads up). Additional 5$ fee for all transfers.
Rock City Guns: 49/57 minutes, they have two locations. Their site doesn't have any nfa fees or information anywhere on it, and there are very few suppressors listed on their website, none under brands like Dead Air, Surefire, etc. Weird. They're much closer than THSF and surrealone's recommendation had me interested. Definitely calling them.
Tar Heel State Firearms: 2 hrs 20 min. Engraving 30$. They "handle fingerprints". If that doesn't mean a SilencerShop kiosk, that might be good. "Incoming" suppressor transfer is only 85$. The silencers on their website are MSRP, of course. Does anyone know how far below MSRP they sell, and how they handle fingerprints? If I don't have to go there more than once to buy and once to pick up items, it might be worth a couple of long drives.
Fuquay Gun and Gold doesn't accept incoming NFA transfers. No NFA transfer details on their website.
SecundusSystems: I'm close to Pittsboro often, but his website is totally empty. Not a phone number, email, or address. @SecundusSystems Can you help?
I can rule out TSA. I'll have to call the others tomorrow. Other suggestions are appreciated.
My 2¢…I think so, but I'm not sure and if so it was a long time ago. Is there something I should be aware of?
Some of the most accurate suppressors for precision rifles are made by TBAC. Last time I checked, they had a higher percentage of the long range precision market than any other manufacturer.@BigWaylon @TRaGiK I'll be getting a Surefire RC2 for 5.56. That was the first can I decided to get, before I looked at any rimfire or pistol cans. I want a 7.62 can for 6.5 CM precision rifles but don't know what to get or what attachment system to use yet.
Yep, I’ve got a REV 45 and a couple of pistons for pistols…i can’t remember the last time I’ve used them! It lives on my PCC and .300 BO. I’ve got sevreal .22 cans, and several pistol hosts but most are used on my rifles.My 2¢…
I know you hear everybody, including me, saying “suppress everything”. However, I can’t tell you the last time I shot a suppressed centerfire pistol other than to show somebody what it’s like. To just shoot one for my own enjoyment hasn’t happened in years.
Suppressed PCC is much better. Or anything rimfire. Or even shooting a suppressed AR.
If it was me, doing it again, I’d focus my money and time on anything else first.
Hey Fred, I have the CGS Mod9. I haven't had anything to compare it to, but I have three hosts and several brands of subsonic ammo to try out. Let me know if you want to meet at DPRC and check it out. I also just got the SilencerCo Omega 300 if you want to check that out.The CGS Mod9 is supposed to be very quiet and have good balance on a handgun because only the blast baffle is steel, the rest aluminum.
I would think they’d take them. I’d have to believe there are thousands of them on shelves in gun stores and various other LEO offices around the country.@BigWaylon I have some FD-258 Revision 5-5-17 cards, and there's a new revision out. I've ordered some new ones, but do you know if the ATF will still accept these? I'm planning on mailing in my fingerprints with the cover letter for now. It looks like any regular ink pad is good enough.
What don't you like about Surefire/RC2s? I'm getting close to buying one.
The only time my suppressed pistol comes out is for other people to shoot. I rarely shoot it for my own enjoyment.
That's an interesting take. I shoot my suppressed handguns way more than rifles. Handguns are generally much easier to keep subsonic and therefore really quiet. The only rifle I regularly shoot with a can , is the 300BO (for the same reason).
If you put one suppressor per trust, it makes it much easier to transfer ownership in the future (presuming that multiple people purchase them from your estate).I'm thinking about getting three suppressors. .308 bolt gun, 9mm pcc, .22 rifle
I'm married with no kids. When I'm gone I don't want her in a jam because she didn't get around to emptying the safe.
How many trusts are needed?
Does it make sense to buy the suppressors all at the same time, or does that throw flags like multiple handguns in the same month?
This is the only situation where I’d include a SiCo Sparrow on the “to be considered” list. And rather than retyping, I have several options/examples in this thread:I am going to get two .22 cans so I can dedicate one to a gun and swap the other around.
I'd like to cut down a CMMG dedicated .22 barrel to 5 or so inches so I can run bulk ammo at subsonic velocities with a standard SBRed AR lower. When mounting a .22 can under an AR15 rail, will the threads carbon lock and leave the rear mount/end cap on the gun when I try to unscrew it?
If so is there a .22 can that avoids this? The Mask, Nyx Mod 1, Takedown .22 all have removable rear caps. The Occulus has a fixed rear mount, but then it's a modular can with a middle section that can still unscrew, so it doesn't avoid this problem, right? If the answer is to get an AR15 rail that can easily be removed, that might be the way to go.
Has anyone used a HUXWRX Flow 556k?