He is IMHO the BHP #GOAT the funny part is most people have no idea who that is.The Yost name drop was the cherry on top.
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He is IMHO the BHP #GOAT the funny part is most people have no idea who that is.The Yost name drop was the cherry on top.
not really. Both 1911 and Glocks are wildly popular. Interesting thing about this is it is all about one unpopular pistol vs a newer slightly better version of an unpopular pistol.Its fun to see we have another CFF addition to:
Ford/Chevy
Meringue/Cool Whip
Dukes/ Hellmans
1911/Glock
Yes the BHP was wildly unpopular. 🤣 It was a horrible seller for FN.not really. Both 1911 and Glocks are wildly popular. Interesting thing about this is it is all about one unpopular pistol vs a newer slightly better version of an unpopular pistol.
Military contracts. like saying Mosin Nagants are really popular and awesome because they made millions of trash rods.Yes the BHP was wildly unpopular. 🤣 It was a horrible seller for FN.
He made vices, right?He is IMHO the BHP #GOAT the funny part is most people have no idea who that is.
Yes really nice vices.He made vices, right?
And it only cost 5 trillion dollars.The Yost name drop was the cherry on top.
The wait is not that long and the cost is not as high as people think. It is a lot like Spegel grips.And it only cost 5 trillion dollars.
But then you have a serviceable HiPower. So worth every penny and every minute of the 12.5 year wait.
(sniffs cork and fills crystal wine glass and farts rose scented gas)
I thought he made vises, but I guess you could be right.Yes really nice vices.
I also have very serviceable FN BHPs which cost a lot less.And it only cost 5 trillion dollars.
But then you have a serviceable HiPower. So worth every penny and every minute of the 12.5 year wait.
(sniffs cork and fills crystal wine glass and farts rose scented gas)
The wait is not that long and the cost is not as high as people think. It is a lot like Spegel grips.
If you have a relationship with Craig you are on his list and when he has grips and your number comes up you buy grips at about $70-$100 a pair.
If you don’t get on the list and go to the secondary market you pay $300 for the same grips.
Ted is not really different. My first BHP build took about 9 months. My 1911 build was maaybe 14. Neither one cost me what they sell for in the secondary market.
I also have very serviceable FN BHPs which cost a lot less.
Less than $800 in this one.
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Less than $700 in this one.
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Do what moves you. My point simply was that there are lots of misconceptions when it comes to cost of BHPs.Lol. Ok.
Don’t remember saying anything about wanting or needing a hipower, but for sure I’m gonna go for it!
I never commented on anything but the Yost. I have no need for pricing options.Do what moves you. My point simply was that there are lots of misconceptions when it comes to cost of BHPs.
That was basically the point I made early on in the "discussion" (despite my love for my own Browning), though I didn't mention the striker-fired feature. There are other features that also make more modern pistols and their designs preferable for the purposes to which many of us want to put them. Again, this shouldn't be surprising since the Hi-Power was fundamentally an early 20th century military sidearm (P-35), and designed for that purpose -- similar to the more recent Beretta 92, which likewise is not a particularly good choice for most civilian and "every day" uses that many of us have. Collecting is another issue entirely, of course.After reading this thread, I'm still not convinced of the merits of the Hi-power over modern polymer striker-fired pistols.
Whoa whoa whoa… did you ask permission first?That was basically the point I made early on in the "discussion" (despite my love for my own Browning), though I didn't mention the striker-fired feature. There are other features that also make more modern pistols and their designs preferable for the purposes to which many of us want to put them. Again, this shouldn't be surprising since the Hi-Power was fundamentally an early 20th century military sidearm (P-35), and designed for that purpose -- similar to the more recent Beretta 92, which likewise is not a particularly good choice for most civilian and "every day" uses that many of us have. Collecting is another issue entirely, of course.
What are you talking about? I see them all the time.Military contracts. like saying Mosin Nagants are really popular and awesome because they made millions of trash rods.
Walk into any gun store. Tons of 1911’s and Glocks. How many High powers? Until recently zero. Now maybe 1.
When is the last time you saw someone shooting a high power at the range or a match? I honestly can’t remember.
So yeah, unpopular.
😂😂 😂 I should have thought of that. My son has one -- possibly because he always enjoyed shooting my HP so much.They just call them CZ-75's for some reason.
I know little of the HP. It looks more like a 1911 than a 75.What are you talking about? I see them all the time.
They just call them CZ-75's for some reason.
Right.I know little of the HP. It looks more like a 1911 than a 75.
A 75 has the slide in the frame, doesn’t have the radial locking lugs, doesn’t have hammer bite, and that trigger.
Oops. I've got a long way with "Ask forgiveness, not permission." Either that or I just forgot. And I do keep forgetting the reporting hierarchy here. Generally, I confess, in anything resembling a social organization, I'm pretty much of a mess. Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa. Ideo precor vos, fratres, oráre pro me ad summus.Whoa whoa whoa… did you ask permission first?
I'm a big HP fan, but don't have the knowledge about them as many here.
To be fair, few people are actually very "knowledgeable" in the way were taking about here with respect to many of the firearms they own.
They know the basics about loading, shooting, and cleaning but little about design and history.
Australia just adopted the Sig 320:And of course the Hi Power is still around as a service arm in certain nations that I guess here would be regarded as "backward":
"The Self-Loading Pistol 9 millimetre Mark 3[71] is the standard issue service pistol of the Australian Defence Force, a direct copy of the Browning Hi Power pistol (which has now been discontinued)."
Here's an interesting study and comparison of the Hi Power to other possibilities by the Australian army done in 2015. The conclusion (that the Hi Power should be replaced by something more "modern") is something with which I don't disagree. But it is interesting that if you read the conclusions and data closely, the authors found it necessary to offer some observations and interpretations of their data that aren't entirely convincing. And the performance comparisons to the other guns being considered may also be surprising to some. Also note the very significant difference in the sights being used on the other pistols being evaluated compared to the Browning. Whatever else you might think about replacing the Browning, it doesn't seem as though you'd have to fudge the results in ways like this. 😂
"Force protection's last resort: Evaluating the Browning Hi-power MK III for the Australian army of tomorrow"
I'm sure the real experts here are already familiar with this study.
Also, there's this "New Sidearm for ADF in 2022", where it appears that things have been delayed. At one point, the ADF wasn't happy with the safety features on the Glocks that they were considering.
Good for them. It really looked as though they might be going for the Glock 17.Australia just adopted the Sig 320:
Did you smoke a cigar afterwards?I doubt that.
I banged a BHP once.
Banging a BHP is TIGHT!
That BHP banged non-stop all night long, too. I'd grip her from behind in my favorite position and let her know who's boss! BANG! BANG! BANG!
Man, to feel her buck in my hands as she went off time after time after time!
*sigh*
I still remember how a light caress of my finger on her trigger would set her off time after time. Sometimes she got so hot I'd have to let her lay there for a while and cool down.
Then I'd stuff another full load into her from the bottom and we'd go another 13 rounds before I was bone dry again.
The way her rack would just slide back and forth, back and forth all night long was mesmerizing. It was truly a sight to see.
I've owned and shot Hi Powers since the mid 70s: 1 60s vintage, 2 Mk IIIs from the 90s, and two FN licenced Argentines. I like the Hi Power better than the 1911 and that is saying a lot. The Mk III is the superior version and for me the best classic service pistol. One man's opinion of course.
Did you smoke a cigar afterwards?
I gather from your comments about the trigger that you removed the magazine disconnect?She did all the smoking. I just laid back and enjoyed it.
I gather from your comments about the trigger that you removed the magazine disconnect?