May I suggest buying an over under in a CZ youth and increase the safety factor and simplicity. Laws forbid over 3 shells. Birds are gone after two shots. You and he will always know there is nothing in a gun once the breach is open.I'm looking for a youth gas semi-auto shotgun in 20 ga. Needs a very short LOP (Tried his mom's compact with 13" LOP and WAY too long, so I'm thinking 10 to 11" tops).
Anybody make one like this? Thanks!
You may not be able to shorten some autos that much due to the recoil spring housing extending back into the buttstock. And the taper of the stock may not leave enough meat for the recoil pad.Remington 1100 LT-20
Started my son on an 1100 LT20 with a cutdown stock. When he outgrew the gun it became my skeet gun with a regular stock.Remington 1100 LT-20
Thanks for your generous offer!I think mossberg and weatherby both import a youth semi 20 gauge, not sure if it’s a gas gun or not. The other issue you may have with a kid that small is going to be weight. I have a single shot 410 the kid can try if you would like also.
Usually lots of factory 10/22 stocks for sale since many are replaced to customize these guns. Buy a cheap stock and cut it down or look for dedicated aftermarket youth stock. And as said above there are shorter factory carbine models, I had one for my son.Finally got grandson to the range, first time shooting anything other than a BB gun. Started with a 10/22, WAY too big for him to shoulder but he managed to put some holes in the target.
Need to find a very small .22 for him.
Next he shot the Mossberg 510. The 10.5" LOP is still too long but he managed, probably grow into it in another year. I was concerned about the 20 ga recoil. but he was not bothered - did use reduced recoil loads. Put pellets into the target as well.
He left happy (and my wife stocked him with snacks and drinks) so the first trip went very well!
Thanks for the guidance received on CFF!
There’s a cricket for sell in the BST, they are small. https://carolinafirearmsforum.com/i...ctical-precision-keystone-22-lr-rifle.131833/Finally got grandson to the range, first time shooting anything other than a BB gun. Started with a 10/22, WAY too big for him to shoulder but he managed to put some holes in the target.
Need to find a very small .22 for him.
Next he shot the Mossberg 510. The 10.5" LOP is still too long but he managed, probably grow into it in another year. I was concerned about the 20 ga recoil. but he was not bothered - did use reduced recoil loads. Put pellets into the target as well.
He left happy (and my wife stocked him with snacks and drinks) so the first trip went very well!
Thanks for the guidance received on CFF!
I have a sweet .22 tactical precision style bolt action rifle.Finally got grandson to the range, first time shooting anything other than a BB gun. Started with a 10/22, WAY too big for him to shoulder but he managed to put some holes in the target.
Need to find a very small .22 for him.
Next he shot the Mossberg 510. The 10.5" LOP is still too long but he managed, probably grow into it in another year. I was concerned about the 20 ga recoil. but he was not bothered - did use reduced recoil loads. Put pellets into the target as well.
He left happy (and my wife stocked him with snacks and drinks) so the first trip went very well!
Thanks for the guidance received on CFF!
This is what I'd do. My dad cut down the stock for my side by side 410 when I was a kid. He kept the piece of stock and screwed it back on when I got older. Now it's just a funny story even if it is ugly as sin I'll never part with that gun.Buy a cheap stock and cut it down
yep. I was forced to give up on the SA and got a pump in order to get the required LOP. Very surprised no one has addressed this niche.I think you will have a hard time finding a factory SA with LOP under 11”. I started both my boys off with a Tristar G2 .410. It was the lightest compact SA I could find… I think it’s 5.5lbs.
They have now stepped up to a Weatherby SA-08 in 20 gauge.
Thanks! LOP on these looks like 13" and I needed something much shorter, like 10". Give him about 3 years and these will be good upgrade options!Check out the Tristar Viper G2 Compact as well as their Raptor offering. A version of the G2 comes with 2 stocks that will allow your kid to grow in to and along with the gun, Other shotgun forums I frequent give the Tristar high praise.
WOW!! For a length of pull THAT short, you're not going to find anything from any manufacture to meet your needs. How old/small is your child that you need something around/less than 10" LOP?? 13" is about the shortest LOP you will find from any manufacturer and that is fairly difficult/unavailable to find. In your case, maybe try and find the shortest available wood stock there is and have it custom fitted /cut down or even completely custom made to fit your child. But like you said, maybe wait a couple of years. Maybe steer your child towards small bore precision rifle, I bet you can get a custom built stock for a Ruger 10/22 to meet your needs with very little difficulty.Thanks! LOP on these looks like 13" and I needed something much shorter, like 10". Give him about 3 years and these will be good upgrade options!
WOW!! For a length of pull THAT short, you're not going to find anything from any manufacture to meet your needs. How old/small is your child that you need something around/less than 10" LOP?? 13" is about the shortest LOP you will find from any manufacturer and that is fairly difficult/unavailable to find. In your case, maybe try and find the shortest available wood stock there is and have it custom fitted /cut down or even completely custom made to fit your child. But like you said, maybe wait a couple of years. Maybe steer your child towards small bore precision rifle, I bet you can get a custom built stock for a Rem 10/22 to meet your needs with very little difficulty.