What fresh hell is this - AK wood furniture on an AR

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So, my scifi space gun looks cool but handles like a giant scifi space gun built for looks. I've been considering a refit and this idea stuck in my head:

AK wood on an AR. It would have to be my 22lr AR because buffer tube bad. Fortunately that's the one I wanted to refit. Stock is easy, chop off the receiver tongue and attach to a short 1913 adapter, just like the one I used for the chainsaw build. Check. Handguard, not so much. No retainer is an issue as is the lack of anywhere to stick that tongue. Now as it happens the handguard sits comfortably over the fat part of my 22lr barrel with nothing but friction. Plan is to lop off the tongue from it also, then notch it to form a anti-rotation lug against the barrel nut (that I tightened just a scosh to index where I wanted). Front retainer will likely have to be made from scratch and hold it on by pressure against the barrel nut. I can also add a solid top cover which would also prevent vertical wiggle as it's flush with the barrel. All doable.

Here's the mockup, I can't find a wood saw to chop the tongue off the stock, but I'm liking where this is going. Just out of frame is a thistle mouth flash AK-ish dingus I had and didn't use from an AR pistol build.

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Also planned: ancient bakelite first gen M16 bakelite grip to recondition and install, fake Bakelite mags, maybe staining the wood revolutionary red and some Soviet graphics.

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I like where you're going with this, but it needs more dong.
 
This will be yet another "thing" I will be able to say I have seen accomplished on the internet🤔😂

I am here for it and God speed, good sir. I look forward to the final iteration🥰

And may God have mercy on our souls.
 
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Wood rough shaped to fit. I'd have the stock assembled except there isn't a woodscrew in this whole shack. I had to inlet the back of the handguard so it overlapped the bolt for it to look right. This will give it some bite when I pressure fit it by pushing on the front with the bolt on retainer. I think I need a gas tube cover to reshape and cover the top without being too much taller than the receiver.

The 1913 adapter is narrower than the stock so I'm going to have to try and blend the corner a bit, God know how that will work out lol

I got the brake in shot this time.
 
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I'm hunting for a wooden AKM stock now. 😢
 
NCLivingBrit said:
Got a link, it depends on price. This is intended to be super cheap.
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www.thefirearmblog.com

Battle Arms Development's Architek Clamp On Sight -

Battle Arms Development is now offering a new clamp on style front sight for the AR pattern rifle. The new sights, called the Architek, is designed to be placed as far forward as possible on the barrel to provide the maximum potential sight radius. It will fit on barrels with an external...
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Best I could find but it might be discontinued..... 😕
 
alpharius said:
www.thefirearmblog.com

Battle Arms Development's Architek Clamp On Sight -

Battle Arms Development is now offering a new clamp on style front sight for the AR pattern rifle. The new sights, called the Architek, is designed to be placed as far forward as possible on the barrel to provide the maximum potential sight radius. It will fit on barrels with an external...
www.thefirearmblog.com www.thefirearmblog.com

Best I could find but it might be discontinued..... 😕
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Actually you're right it is. I remember looking for one for a potential idea I had a while ago. Because it really is neat.
 
NCLivingBrit said:
I wanted dong, but those things are insanely expensive these days. Alas I just can't swing it.
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With your already demonstrated & illustrated skilz, if you "can't" make dong, you are simply submitting to design cowardice.

Buy an extra woodscrew and have at it. YOU CAN DO IT!
 
Windini said:
With your already demonstrated & illustrated skilz, if you "can't" make dong, you are simply submitting to design cowardice.

Buy an extra woodscrew and have at it. YOU CAN DO IT!
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I'm trash tier at woodwork. And gunsmithing also lol

Maybe I can find a woodworker that can make me a dong to bolt on
 
NCLivingBrit said:
I'm trash tier at woodwork. And gunsmithing also lol

Maybe I can find a woodworker that can make me a dong to bolt on
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Dong can be interpreted under the guidelines of Artistic License.

Dildong + superglue?

Or glue & clamp 2 pcs of 1/2" plywood together (pretty sure that was Eastern Bloc tradition), let dry, mark out shape with carpenter's pencil, cut out with coping saw (and macho-power elbow grease), then rasp & sand edges and such to final contour.

They make rotary burrs & rasps for a drill chuck; between those and a 1/2-round rasp, you should be able to make the curve to fit the bottom of the forend... better still, leave the top of Dong flat & cut a flat socket on bottom of the forend. Predrill, zip 2 screws from above (countersunk so they don't mar the barrel), and shape the joint to an even transition.

Easy peasy!
 
NCLivingBrit said:
No retainer is an issue as is the lack of anywhere to stick that tongue. Now as it happens the handguard sits comfortably over the fat part of my 22lr barrel with nothing but friction. Plan is to lop off the tongue from it also, then notch it to form a anti-rotation lug against the barrel nut (that I tightened just a scosh to index where I wanted). Front retainer will likely have to be made from scratch and hold it on by pressure against the barrel nut. I can also add a solid top cover which would also prevent vertical wiggle as it's flush with the barrel. All doable.
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If the wood fits snug to the barrel, run a bead of Permatex Ultra Black silicone in the bottom of the U-channel, let it sit for 24 hours & it'll hang on until you want to remove it by pulling hard, or smacking it with a hammer. It's much stronger than the std clear type silicone, and it doesn't use acid (rust) to keep it from setting up.
 
Get Off My Lawn said:
If the wood fits snug to the barrel, run a bead of Permatex Ultra Black silicone in the bottom of the U-channel, let it sit for 24 hours & it'll hang on until you want to remove it by pulling hard, or smacking it with a hammer. It's much stronger than the std clear type silicone, and it doesn't use acid (rust) to keep it from setting up.
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Well I want the retainer for looks but that's good to know!
 
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Except that's a $3-400 set of wood for a boomer AR and not PSA take off AK furniture a member was kind enough to donate to foster my madness.

I get it if you don't get it, but this isn't about just putting wood on an AR, this is about incongruity and making something odd work in a manner not intended.

Anyone can drop a bunch of cash and buy some overpriced AR wood. It takes a different sort of idjit to take something entirely unsuitable and make it work anyway. It's about the process.
 
Windini said:
With your already demonstrated & illustrated skilz, if you "can't" make dong, you are simply submitting to design cowardice.

Buy an extra woodscrew and have at it. YOU CAN DO IT!
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Well I've got slab of poplar on the way from which I will attempt to carve dong. I could only find burl so my dong will have spots on it. I am so bad at shaping wood!

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May the gods have mercy on what passes for my soul.

Since I've got to reshape the stock and add dong to the handguard, I've decided to strip the current finish, sand everything smoove then fill the gap in the stock where the stock is inlet for a tang, Once it's all looking spiffy, it's getting a red, red stain and some varnish. That should help unify the slightly different shades of furniture wood and make it extra Soviet.

If anyone has a clamp on front handguard retainer they aren't using I'll gladly buy it. Cheapest one I can find is fifty bones.

Next challenge will be an AK front sight and matching a rear sight to it. I actually have a low height Picatinny peep sight block from a Sig 522 that has a ton of adjustment and is about the right height that might work.

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I really should have done this ten years ago, nobody has piles of surplus front sight blocks laying around for $10 anymore lol
 
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Sights. I've found Tantal front sight blocks for saneish money.

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www.robertrtg.com

TANTAL FRONT SIGHT BLOCK NEW

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I think that would actually pair with the peep sight I already have. It's got quite a range of adjustment for elevation and windage so combined with the front sight also having adjustment for both, I think it should work.

I can't find the interior diameter of the Tantal sight block listed anywhere but that's what files are for right?
 
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NCLivingBrit said:
Sights. I've found Tantal front sight blocks for saneish money.

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www.robertrtg.com

TANTAL FRONT SIGHT BLOCK NEW

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I think that would actually pair with the peep sight I already have. It's got quite a range of adjustment for elevation and windage so combined with the front sight also having adjustment for both, I think it should work.

I can't find the interior diameter of the Tantal sight block listed anywhere but that's what files are for right?
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Don't the Tantals have skinny barrels? I'd be surprised if that fit over a gov profile AR barrel.
 
alpharius said:
Don't the Tantals have skinny barrels? I'd be surprised if that fit over a gov profile AR barrel.
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I don't know, I can't find any numbers for it. That's also the only plain front sight block I can find in stock that isn't giraffe balls pricing.
 
OK, progress update. Got the bakelite grip but it needs a little polish and I am having a heck of a time finding Brasso around here.

I sourced a Yugo handguard retainer and fitted it, works great but now it needs a top cover. The seller cancelled my order for knife scale blanks to make that from as the last one he had wasn't in good shape, so I'll have to find more.

I tested cherry red rit dye on the stock offcut, looks great and should show through the (also red tinted) sealant. I can't find my sandpaper stash so I had to get more, but when I grab it tonight I can sand the stock and handguard finish off for staining.

Staining may have to wait though, because the seller is taking forever to ship the wood block for the dong and I think I want it all assembled before I stain it so the stain matches.

And I took pics but apparently my phone ate them. I'll snap some more once it's all sanded.

Edit: remembered I found a handguard and front sight block for sane money, but forgot to order them. They're now otw.
 
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Wood sanded
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Test dab of red stain on the offcut wood, it will need watering down a touch. That's a single quick daub of Rit Cherry Red.

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Got the handguard retainer fitted and it locks securely. I think I'm going to make an extension out of wood to cover the barrel nut.

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On to the handguard extension to cover the barrel nut. I couldn't find a bit of poplar to make it out of one piece, so I'm going to laminate a 2"x1/2" slab into a block larger than needed, cut out the void for the barrel nut then epoxy it to the handguard and try my best to blend the two together by sanding the block down to match. This is perilous and ambitious because I'm a crappy woodworker.

Rather than try and use a too-tall wooden top handguard that should attach to a buffer tube, I'm going to make a simple slab top, rounded off to give it a top cover feel.

This will have the benefit of aiding the handguard retainer in keeping everything in place under stress by clamping the barrel nut between the extension block and the top cover. It's already pretty solid with just the handguard retainer but better safe than sorry and it should improve the look.

Wood for the dong states it might not be here for a while so I may end up having to get something else. I may have underestimated the size I need to be able to carve out a reasonably sized dong.
 
Why am I just now seeing this?
A few things:
- something is seriously wrong with you. I love it.
- If you can’t find brasso, you can try Nu Polish.
- Any machinist can turn down the OD of the barrel if needed to match the front sight. On a .22 meme gun it will never be an issue.
- Now you need a slant brake…
 
dbarale said:
Why am I just now seeing this?
A few things:
- something is seriously wrong with you. I love it.
- If you can’t find brasso, you can try Nu Polish.
- Any machinist can turn down the OD of the barrel if needed to match the front sight. On a .22 meme gun it will never be an issue.
- Now you need a slant brake…
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I found the Brasso. Here is the precious Bakelite attached, took a minute to dig out the rusty spring hiding in the bottom of the channel. I got most of it and clipped the new spring to fit.

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This reminds me how much I want a full set of Bakelite AR furniture. Precioussssss.

Fortunately the AR barrel I am using is a mm or so smaller than the Yugo barrel, which is why I took the plunge when I found a sane price front sight block. If it fits almost snug plan is to add a shim inside and a set screw. But I'll deal with it as it comes!

I spent some time at work trying to find a 1/2x28 slant brake, or even a 74 style brake. No luck so far, but I shall keep looking. Worse case scenario I shall ream out a slant brake and try to line it with the thinnest 1/2x28 thread cover I can find and dremel to fit. Or get a cheap 74 brake for same, which would give me more meat to work with.
 
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