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If you have a PCC on a cart, keep the cart within 6ft of and oriented directly at the berm. I have seen several folks catch a DQ for removing a PCC from their cart racks when the cart was physically too far away from a berm. i know a lot of guys that will keep a PCC bagged for the sake of not having to worry about where their cart is and will bag and unbag their PCC at the line when given the "make ready" command.
 
If just starting PCC, it would be worth squadding with an experienced PCC'er or two. You can ask RO to put you down near bottom of order so you can watch others first. Even go watch some PCC's at a match or two.

I normally roll my cart up close enough that it is not right in everyones way, but quickly accessible.
You'll likely be getting the carbine while they are scoring the guy before you in the order, so that you are ready when they finish and waiting at line, with flag in unloaded gun. Critical to be aware of the people now down range and uprange. I generally remove gun from cart by stock with muzzle down and pointing a couple inches in front of my feet, and walk up to the starting position, while observing everybody clearing the range. I believe some places require that the gun is not touched before the range is clear, and you must unbag carbine at the line when range is clear, but I have not shot at any matches like this. But just be aware and careful and ask any questions.

People really do want to help as we have all been there. Shooting is one of those things where people really appreciate you asking if you don't know, even if it's a "dumb" question.
 
Follow up PCC question: Handling magazines while carrying to/from the safe area. This seems easy enough if the magazines are on the belt already. If not, I assume having a PCC in one hand and a magazine in the other is a express ticket home? haha (In addition to making it difficult to handle the chamber flag.)

At the start position, I'd guess that I could unbag, remove the chamber flag, then pull a magazine from the bag. (Will test my regular mag pouch with the 33-rounder today.)

I actually carried the PCC and two magazines in my hand from my cart to the table for Steel Challenge and no one questioned it. Cringing a little thinking about that. A bag would have made that much less questionable.

I think I'm going to stick with using a bag for the PCC. Not only due to rules, but that thing can get hot in the sun!
 
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maven said:
If you have a PCC on a cart, keep the cart within 6ft of and oriented directly at the berm. I have seen several folks catch a DQ for removing a PCC from their cart racks when the cart was physically too far away from a berm. i know a lot of guys that will keep a PCC bagged for the sake of not having to worry about where their cart is and will bag and unbag their PCC at the line when given the "make ready" command.
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Back to the bag for me!
 
Put your bagged rifle in cart. It was Steel Challenge that concerned me most about bags and carts as I haven't done much of that with PCC.
Walking up I usually have mags in back pocket if I didn't wear a mag pouch. You were probably fine with mags in off hand.

To be clear, "The Safe Area" is place for checking guns and unbagging guns and putting gun in holster and whanot prior to match. DO NOT have any ammo/loaded mags in the "safe area"!
The "safe area" is a specific spot away from stage/stages for this and is NOT the area where everyone is generally hanging out waiting for their turn. Edit: Even loaded mags in belt holders will get you DQ'd.
 
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NKD said:
To be clear, "The Safe Area" is place for checking guns and unbagging guns and putting gun in holster and whanot prior to match. DO NOT have any ammo/loaded mags in the "safe area"!
The "safe area" is a specific spot away from stage/stages for this and is NOT the area where everyone is generally hanging out waiting for their turn. Edit: Even loaded mags in belt holders will get you DQ'd.
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That doesn't always seem to be the case. One place I went to didn't allow any ammo in the safe area. Most others I've been to -- and that's not very many -- seem to allow ammo and loaded magazines in the safe area as long as they aren't handled. Meaning, in a bag or left on the belt. If that isn't the case, I need to makes some adjustments!
 
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That doesn't always seem to be the case. One place I went to didn't allow any ammo in the safe area. Most others I've been to -- and that's not very many -- seem to allow ammo and loaded magazines in the safe area as long as they aren't handled. Meaning, in a bag or left on the belt. If that isn't the case, I need to makes some adjustments!
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Just be sure to check first is all.
 
Hello again y'all. I am a left handed shooter and am currently practicing with a Walther PDP. I have been experimenting with the interchangeable mag release on the PDP to see if having a right side release would be more beneficial versus using my index finger to hit the mag release on the left side. To the lefties out there, is there any benefit to running the mag release either way? Or am I overcomplicating things? Let me know. Thanks!
 
dhlee said:
Hello again y'all. I am a left handed shooter and am currently practicing with a Walther PDP. I have been experimenting with the interchangeable mag release on the PDP to see if having a right side release would be more beneficial versus using my index finger to hit the mag release on the left side. To the lefties out there, is there any benefit to running the mag release either way? Or am I overcomplicating things? Let me know. Thanks!
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Run the mag release on the right side if you have the option.
 
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Hello again y'all. I am a left handed shooter and am currently practicing with a Walther PDP. I have been experimenting with the interchangeable mag release on the PDP to see if having a right side release would be more beneficial versus using my index finger to hit the mag release on the left side. To the lefties out there, is there any benefit to running the mag release either way? Or am I overcomplicating things? Let me know. Thanks!
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I am also lefty but have little to no experience with competitions. Imho I would say switch it to the right side for the simple reason of it being easier and quicker possibly.
I switched my 19x because I can and my little HK has ambi paddles. Don’t know why I felt like I needed to add this but I did lol

I’m replying because I hope other experienced lefty shooters will have opinions about your questions.

Be safe!
 
dhlee said:
Hello again y'all. I am a left handed shooter and am currently practicing with a Walther PDP. I have been experimenting with the interchangeable mag release on the PDP to see if having a right side release would be more beneficial versus using my index finger to hit the mag release on the left side. To the lefties out there, is there any benefit to running the mag release either way? Or am I overcomplicating things? Let me know. Thanks!
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A timer would tell you if there is any speed benefit.

Personally, I would put it on the right side. That said, if I were a lefty, I'd practice reloads with pointer finger too. Just in the event I am stuck using one of the zillions of right handed guns out there. But from a competition perspective, activating with thumb seems like it would be fastest and most secure. Just my opinion.
 
dhlee said:
Hello again y'all. I am a left handed shooter and am currently practicing with a Walther PDP. I have been experimenting with the interchangeable mag release on the PDP to see if having a right side release would be more beneficial versus using my index finger to hit the mag release on the left side. To the lefties out there, is there any benefit to running the mag release either way? Or am I overcomplicating things? Let me know. Thanks!
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When I got my first pistol, it had an ambi mag catch, buttons on both sides. At that time I actually preferred running it with the middle finger of my dominant hand. I also discovered that the palm side of the dominant hand can block the mag catch from moving outward, which means it can be harder to push inward on the opposite side using the thumb.

Now I use my thumb to release the mag and mostly have single-sided buttons. This might be odd, but I brace the palm side with my middle finger on the lower edge of the trigger guard.

I'm right-handed, but my guess is that using the thumb is probably quicker for competition. For real life, maintaining an efficient use of a finger with the most common placement of a mag release is important. Like NKD said, try it both ways with a timer to see.
 
Thanks for the replies! The eventual goal is to work my way to limited optics when the skill and budget are up to par. That would most likely mean a 2011 platform. Most of them only come right handed, with the only options being getting a mitchell mag release or using index finger. That would be my only concern, but I guess I can adjust technique as gear and experience develops. I’ll probably take a range day with a shot timer and experiment a bit.
 
Hello. Anyone know any shooting instructors specifically for USPSA comp shooting near Cary, NC? Not a lot of competitive shooters near here, at least that I know of. Obviously brand new to the scene so still trying out different ranges and instructors. Let me know. Thanks in advance!
 
I’ve been shooting John Zs 2gun ZSA at Flatwoods for a while. IPSC with the undead. Steel and paper without too much acrobatics. Great matches. At 72 if i get down I don’t get up easily. I like using my 22s [a model 41 and an AR .22] but have used a .45 625 revolver and a .45 PCC. Even shot one shoot with my 1903 Springfield with a 10 rd mag. Came in last that day. Bolt guns can’t keep up with those semis. Another shooter shot a match with his Garand. Before the year out I want to use a 1911 and my Thompson 1927a1 sbr.
I only perused the last couple pages of this thread as it goes back to 2016 but are there no cowboy action shooters left? I still shoot it. It’s really 3 or 4 gun depending on how you look at it. But it’s all fun. I only shoot against myself except at my SASS/WASA club where three other guys and I frequently shoot the same style guns against each other. IMG_9437.jpeg
 
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Hello. Anyone know any shooting instructors specifically for USPSA comp shooting near Cary, NC? Not a lot of competitive shooters near here, at least that I know of. Obviously brand new to the scene so still trying out different ranges and instructors. Let me know. Thanks in advance!
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Yes. The best shooter in the state, and multi-champion Chris Tilley. Has taught hundreds (probably thousands).
He has an indoor range in Garner. Personal Defense and Handgun Safety Center.
He gives instruction there.
He also has an outdoor private range in Sanford where he teaches and hold fun USPSA matches. If you want to learn and get good at USPSA, stay as close to that guy as you can.

Highly recommend getting some instruction from him. You can look him up on instagram and facebook.

edit: and there are tons of competition shooters of all stripes in your area.
 
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Yes. The best shooter in the state, and multi-champion Chris Tilley. Has taught hundreds (probably thousands).
He has an indoor range in Garner. Personal Defense and Handgun Safety Center.
He gives instruction there.
He also has an outdoor private range in Sanford where he teaches and hold fun USPSA matches. If you want to learn and get good at USPSA, stay as close to that guy as you can.

Highly recommend getting some instruction from him. You can look him up on instagram and facebook.

edit: and there are tons of competition shooters of all stripes in your area.
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Did not know about him, definitely will check him out. Appreciate it! And yes I’m sure there are many solid competitive shooters around here, just still looking for them! Attitude towards guns isn’t positive in my town so it can be hard. Glad to get info from more seasoned shooters on forums like this though
 
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Did not know about him, definitely will check him out. Appreciate it! And yes I’m sure there are many solid competitive shooters around here, just still looking for them! Attitude towards guns isn’t positive in my town so it can be hard. Glad to get info from more seasoned shooters on forums like this though
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Check him out. He's a good guy to know because once he starts to recognize you....he'll just help and be friendly. I've learned a ton just shooting his matches and whatnot.

When I started shooting matches I lived in Cary. A bunch of kooks there but many many shooters quietly existing there. It would surprise you how many!
 
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Check him out. He's a good guy to know because once he starts to recognize you....he'll just help and be friendly. I've learned a ton just shooting his matches and whatnot.

When I started shooting matches I lived in Cary. A bunch of kooks there but many many shooters quietly existing there. It would surprise you how many!
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Sent him an email. Thanks again, real big help! Instruction from a known GM will probably be extremely valuable.
 
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Which pistol comps are going to be closest to normal concealed carry style shooting? I want to use it to push my "tactical" use, with gear I would actually use. IDPA comes to mind, but I know very little about any of the classes/orgs to even try to make a guess, much less an educated one.

I also see people saying drive by the IDPA and go to USPSA, is it really that big of a difference?

I know that just getting into it I won't be competitive, and that's ok. I want to pivot skills used in comps into daily life/carry, and of course meet cool people and have fun.

My only comp experience was going and watching a GSSF match at least 10 years ago, and playing on the match side at PDHSC at least 15 years ago.
 
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Sent him an email. Thanks again, real big help! Instruction from a known GM will probably be extremely valuable.
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Have you shot any USPSA matches?
If not, if you can safely handle a firearm, and hit a eight inch target at 20 yards eventually, go shoot one. Be honest with your squad and someone will try to help. Sir Walter and CGGR are pretty close.
Very few instructors are doing intro, you will get more from it if you have an idea how to break down a stage, move, reload competently, and can shoot alphas/hit any steel at 25yds with no time constraints.
Have not taken Chris's class, may if I get back into it.
Stoeger seems to come thru 1-2 times a year, I highly recommend unless you struggle with blunt criticism and rapidly implementing directions he has no tolerance for excuses, his books are also excellent resources. Racazza and Steve Anderson pass through occasionally, haven't been to either. Steve's books are decent, and he has a podcast that generally gives good advice if you can stand it.
 
Cameronswmp9 said:
Which pistol comps are going to be closest to normal concealed carry style shooting?

I also see people saying drive by the IDPA and go to USPSA, is it really that big of a difference?

I know that just getting into it I won't be competitive, and that's ok. I want to pivot skills used in comps into daily life/carry, and of course meet cool people and have fun.
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It took me a moment to realize that you mean pistol competitions, not compensators! I don't have a lot of experience, but I have some, and I think IDPA is primarily what you're looking for. IDPA involves scenarios, clearing the cover garment to draw the pistol, shooting from cover, and prioritization of targets. I think USPSA is more about freeform speed, efficiency, and movement. My guess is that USPSA could make you a faster IDPA shooter, so try both!

You WILL meet cool people and have fun while also getting a little nervous and maybe wishing you could get a do-over! If you're competing against yourself you have a good shot at it! One way or another you'll walk away with a win. heh If only in the form of knowledge gained for next time. Just focus on what you're doing and leave the scoring to the fine individuals volunteering that day.

The rulebooks are available online, so look them over.

You could get your feet wet with something like indoor GSSF or Steel Challenge. Neither requires movement. (Well, there's one stage format in Steel Challenge that requires moving from one shooting box to another, but that's it.) GSSF is a super short format with 10 shots each from low ready at 5, 7, 10, 15, and 25 yards. Basically marksmanship on the clock. Steel Challenge is a minimum of 25 shots per stage multiplied by the number of stages, with maybe 4 to 8 stages in a match. Great for practicing fast target transitions, and if you're shooting a centerfire pistol it's great for practicing the draw from the surrender position.
 
gloom said:
It took me a moment to realize that you mean pistol competitions, not compensators! I don't have a lot of experience, but I have some, and I think IDPA is primarily what you're looking for. IDPA involves scenarios, clearing the cover garment to draw the pistol, shooting from cover, and prioritization of targets. I think USPSA is more about freeform speed, efficiency, and movement. My guess is that USPSA could make you a faster IDPA shooter, so try both!

You WILL meet cool people and have fun while also getting a little nervous and maybe wishing you could get a do-over! If you're competing against yourself you have a good shot at it! One way or another you'll walk away with a win. heh If only in the form of knowledge gained for next time. Just focus on what you're doing and leave the scoring to the fine individuals volunteering that day.

The rulebooks are available online, so look them over.

You could get your feet wet with something like indoor GSSF or Steel Challenge. Neither requires movement. (Well, there's one stage format in Steel Challenge that requires moving from one shooting box to another, but that's it.) GSSF is a super short format with 10 shots each from low ready at 5, 7, 10, 15, and 25 yards. Basically marksmanship on the clock. Steel Challenge is a minimum of 25 shots per stage multiplied by the number of stages, with maybe 4 to 8 stages in a match. Great for practicing fast target transitions, and if you're shooting a centerfire pistol it's great for practicing the draw from the surrender position.
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Sounds like either discipline will work just fine, and both will have awesome people.

In reading, I like the sounds of steel challenges, but really seems like it's all about the same as you're shooting a target and getting the hits lol.

Will be eyeing carry optics class, and using a carry gun (or a full size equivalent when I get the compact for carry). I'm just looking, at this point, to get better and honestly skills, and just have some fun doing it that's not static range shooting
 
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Sounds like either discipline will work just fine, and both will have awesome people.

In reading, I like the sounds of steel challenges, but really seems like it's all about the same as you're shooting a target and getting the hits lol.

Will be eyeing carry optics class, and using a carry gun (or a full size equivalent when I get the compact for carry). I'm just looking, at this point, to get better and honestly skills, and just have some fun doing it that's not static range shooting
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USPSA and IDPA have some things in common, but they emphasize different skills. You would be penalized for shooting USPSA style in IDPA, but not the other way around. Shooting IDPA style in USPSA would just slow you down and confuse observers. heheh IDPA does require or encourage annual membership.

BTW, GSSF requires membership to participate, but it gets you an annual discount on a Glock pistol, and chances to randomly win pistols throughout the year. (My wife won one.) There are different formats, indoor and outdoor. The outdoor Glock Challenge also offers chances to win cash prizes. The one my wife goes to routinely, indoor Glock League, the hardest part is shooting within a vaguely defined 8" circle at 25 yards, 10 shots in 15 seconds.

Steel Challenge goes way beyond the basic constrained range experience. You might be surprised. Hitting the plates confirms minimum accuracy, but the challenge is to do the target TRANSITIONS fast while your dot is bouncing around. You learn to regulate your speed, use your vision differently, use your ears, call your shots, maintain body alignment during transitions, and not over-confirm your aim. The targets are in different arrangements in each stage, which might not seem that challenging...until you try to run the stage FAST. That's when you might find that you can in fact miss the huge, rectangular plate!

Anything that tests your skills and puts pressure on you is beneficial. Just get started.

USPSA shooter doing Steel Challenge for the first time. Shows all the stages, although sometimes one plate is out of the frame. (Another benefit is practicing the draw 5 times per stage!)
 
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USPSA and IDPA have some things in common, but they emphasize different skills. You would be penalized for shooting USPSA style in IDPA, but not the other way around. Shooting IDPA style in USPSA would just slow you down and confuse observers. heheh IDPA does require or encourage annual membership.

BTW, GSSF requires membership to participate, but it gets you an annual discount on a Glock pistol, and chances to randomly win pistols throughout the year. (My wife won one.) There are different formats, indoor and outdoor. The outdoor Glock Challenge also offers chances to win cash prizes. The one my wife goes to routinely, indoor Glock League, the hardest part is shooting within a vaguely defined 8" circle at 25 yards, 10 shots in 15 seconds.

Steel Challenge goes way beyond the basic constrained range experience. You might be surprised. Hitting the plates confirms minimum accuracy, but the challenge is to do the target TRANSITIONS fast while your dot is bouncing around. You learn to regulate your speed, use your vision differently, use your ears, call your shots, maintain body alignment during transitions, and not over-confirm your aim. The targets are in different arrangements in each stage, which might not seem that challenging...until you try to run the stage FAST. That's when you might find that you can in fact miss the huge, rectangular plate!

Anything that tests your skills and puts pressure on you is beneficial. Just get started.

USPSA shooter doing Steel Challenge for the first time. Shows all the stages, although sometimes one plate is out of the frame. (Another benefit is practicing the draw 5 times per stage!)
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Seeing it is definitely different than what I had in my head (was thinking long distance rifle steel) and that is quite a bit cooler than my initial thought. I can see exactly what you're saying, transition and movement.

Looks like a helluva lot of fun!
 
Cameronswmp9 said:
Seeing it is definitely different than what I had in my head (was thinking long distance rifle steel) and that is quite a bit cooler than my initial thought. I can see exactly what you're saying, transition and movement.

Looks like a helluva lot of fun!
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Here's one being shot a bit faster. Also covers stage strategies.
 
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Which one are we looking at? Got the first one but it looks like match set up, not looking for matches close by.
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I was using the Web site to find matches. I do have Practiscore Competitor now to look at scores, but they can also be seen on the Website.

Login. Click Matches at the top of the screen.

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I scrolled around on the map until I was in the area of interest, then I clicked "Update Location."

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Then click on the map to set the search location. Here I clicked on Columbia, SC.

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The numbers can be clicked on to zoom in and expand them. The blue markers give specific match info.

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Matches are also listed below the map and filter options are to the left of the map.
 
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I'll be in the Hickory area. Thanks for the link and info, I'll check back with it periodically.
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Only official USPSA? There's indoor USPSA at The Range at Lake Norman in Cornelius, north of CLT, twice a month plus additional action pistol matches. https://practiscore.com/clubs/competitive-shooters-of-lake-norman

Rowan Practical Shooters, north-east of CLT in Salisbury, has outdoor USPSA https://practiscore.com/clubs/rowan-practical-shooters

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Catawba Valley in Conover has 3-gun which you can shoot pistol-only or PCC-only, or 2-gun with a pistol and a rifle/PCC. https://practiscore.com/clubs/catawba-vally-rifle-and-pistol

Mecklenburg Wildlife in west Charlotte has Action Pistol (with modified IDPA targets). https://practiscore.com/clubs/mecklenburg_defensive_shooters_1
 
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Thank for this. I hit the website and saw in Sanford. It's not terribly far at all. Was hoping for something closer, but beggers and choosers and all.....

New gun inbound so get some rounds through it and take it out for a match!
 
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Thank for this. I hit the website and saw in Sanford. It's not terribly far at all. Was hoping for something closer, but beggers and choosers and all.....

New gun inbound so get some rounds through it and take it out for a match!
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Your profiles indicates that you're in Cary, so, yeah, Sanford doesn't seem too far. Personally I hate driving longer distances, especially in the morning! I prefer to be within an hour of my destination. It's mainly a sleep disorder thing.

Wow, there are a bunch of action pistol, IDPA, and USPSA matches indoor and outdoor in that area! I'd like to see this one. "We offer IDPA Matches at an all-weather indoor range with six to eight competitive stages." I wonder how big or small each stage is! https://practiscore.com/shoot-to-live-idpa-10-12-23/register

Also check these out:

Self-Defense Practice Night

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IDPA Practice Night

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They have a bunch of video clips that you can download in WMV format. (Not sure why they don't upload them to a streaming service.) http://www.shoot2live.com/pixandvideo.html
 
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Your profiles indicates that you're in Cary, so, yeah, Sanford doesn't seem too far. Personally I hate driving longer distances, especially in the morning! I prefer to be within an hour of my destination. It's mainly a sleep disorder thing.

Wow, there are a bunch of action pistol, IDPA, and USPSA matches indoor and outdoor in that area! I'd like to see this one. "We offer IDPA Matches at an all-weather indoor range with six to eight competitive stages." I wonder how big or small each stage is! https://practiscore.com/shoot-to-live-idpa-10-12-23/register

Also check these out:

Self-Defense Practice Night

add your site description here
www.shoot2live.com

IDPA Practice Night

add your site description here
www.shoot2live.com

They have a bunch of video clips that you can download in WMV format. (Not sure why they don't upload them to a streaming service.) http://www.shoot2live.com/pixandvideo.html
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That is the PDHSC the indoor range to the Sanford outdoor range. 20 minutes or so away.

I was looking at the USPSA stuff not much on the IDPA stuff. And apparently harder to look at stuff without an account, which is now fixed.

I am not going to be competitive, and I know it, I'm going to learn to be better with my gun, meeting cool people and having fun.

In talking to guys at work are thinking it's up against GMs first time and getting laughed out of the place. I'm trying to get at least one of them to go just to say they did, but they ain't feeling it much lol
 
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That is the PDHSC the indoor range to the Sanford outdoor range. 20 minutes or so away.

I was looking at the USPSA stuff not much on the IDPA stuff. And apparently harder to look at stuff without an account, which is now fixed.

I am not going to be competitive, and I know it, I'm going to learn to be better with my gun, meeting cool people and having fun.

In talking to guys at work are thinking it's up against GMs first time and getting laughed out of the place. I'm trying to get at least one of them to go just to say they did, but they ain't feeling it much lol
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When I started years ago I started out shooting a sub compact 40 Springfield talk about snappy. I never once had anyone talk crap about me and my gun. Majority were Hey glad you are here feel free to ask questions. Watch and learn. And those were guys with 3,4,5 k guns on their hips as well as the others with factory guns too. Not saying there are not snobs out there.
 
Cameronswmp9 said:
I am not going to be competitive, and I know it, I'm going to learn to be better with my gun, meeting cool people and having fun.

In talking to guys at work are thinking it's up against GMs first time and getting laughed out of the place. I'm trying to get at least one of them to go just to say they did, but they ain't feeling it much lol
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This one sounds like it was written just for you. "At OnPoint, we believe that IDPA is all about fun, challenging your practical shooting ability, improving your handgun skills, making genuine and lasting relationships and amazing experiences competing with, not against people." https://practiscore.com/onpoint-raleigh-indoor-idpa-match-21/register

There are so many categories and classes that you wouldn't be judged against the GM(s) there, unless you're at GM level. First you compete against yourself and probably compare yourself to those just above or below you. A number of people can be within a fraction of a point of each other in overall performance. (USPSA goes by "hit factor" which is basically points per second.) If you're in a group like that, you can imagine your position changing by maybe just a slightly better shot or reload. That's where your competition lies. Not at who is at the very top...unless that's your level.

Someone who enters as, say, "Production, B class, Junior, Lady, Major" will have standings in all those categories. If you're "Carry Optics, U class, Senior, Minor" then you aren't technically competing directly against the other person. Let alone against an "Open, GM, Super Senior, Lady, Foreign, Military, Major!" You could be first in some categories and last in others. If an extraterrestrial with a laser gun takes first overall, it doesn't reflect poorly on your performance.

At least the way I understand it and see it.
 
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That is the PDHSC the indoor range to the Sanford outdoor range. 20 minutes or so away.

I was looking at the USPSA stuff not much on the IDPA stuff. And apparently harder to look at stuff without an account, which is now fixed.

I am not going to be competitive, and I know it, I'm going to learn to be better with my gun, meeting cool people and having fun.

In talking to guys at work are thinking it's up against GMs first time and getting laughed out of the place. I'm trying to get at least one of them to go just to say they did, but they ain't feeling it much lol
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Just be safe. No one else will remember where you placed, but will remember if you do something unsafe.
 
I watched a guy one time his first time shoot a match. He fired his gun at the target put it on safe walked to the next target took it off fired but it back on safe and did that throughout the course of 5 stages. No one said a word of discouragement. You shoot the stage how you want to. But his shots were all there, his time was in the minutes. Good shooting good job. Doing great. He said he always wanted to try.
 
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