puregarbage
We found you, notacop
Islamic nations are so backwards I don't really care
Iran attacking Israel
- Thread starter RJ55
- Start date
- Replies 168
- Views 3,507
Nicely put. I think 50 years of support is long enough for them to mature as a country.
Let's be honest, it's because it's the wrong religion that religion is an issue.
DCGallim
Resident Smart-A$$
Did you know that Iran wasn’t always a backwards extremist nation. America didn’t like that so we funded the backwards extremist to depose the government and take over.
This is a monster of our own creation.
puregarbage
We found you, notacop
It was a western colony
Comfortable with it? Hell, I’d pay money to be able to pull the trigger…
I’m gonna give you a pass on this comment.. the ignorance of it is astonishing and makes it very clear that you have no clue about the Muslim culture…
puregarbage
We found you, notacop
Supporting the only western ally power in the region is a no brainer.
They talk the talk but they don't actually walk the walk. I have not much love for the regime but they are acting relaltively restrained.Hmm, I'm not quite sure, but it's possible that their leaders constantly exclaiming "Death to America!" could be taken as a threat.
DCGallim
Resident Smart-A$$
Ally is a laughable statement.
Levon Affair
USS Liberty
Among millions of these.
At this point saying ally is akin to Stockholm Syndrome.
matttahoe53
Happy to be here
When the Muslim’s launch a full scale war with intent and ability to take over the United States country proper and it is a last resort I would stand next to you and turn the other key.
DCGallim
Resident Smart-A$$
Can you give me a time frame in which it was? I’m having trouble finding that information.
Chuckman
Senior Member
This was your quote, "It is interesting that many on this thread are comfortable wiping out an entire population for the sins of a government they did not choose freely." My point being, this ain't new territory for the US (or any other country), the collective 'we' have wiped out civilians in the name of the bringing a government and a military to its knees. Neither the Germans nor the Japanese were allowed to dissent from their government, neither are the Iranians.
As for whether Iran declared war on the US, I'd say yes. In 1978. War does not have to be waged by infantry and armor divisions.
As for whether this is Israel's problem to solve, yeah, I largely agree.
Last edited:
That's not how they roll and won't do that. Instead, they'll target civilian soft targets. So long as any of them have an appetite for terrorism I'm fine with their extermination. It's a tactic that can't be tolerated.
They've spent the better part of the last 100 years living with the post WW2 US which put is emphasis on world policing, not total war. The silent and baby-boomer generations are dying off and gen X leaders are rising up. The last time a nomad generation was in peak power was WW2. If the moslems start their monkey business thinking it's going to go as usual, they may find themselves getting much more than they bargained for.
- Joined
- Dec 16, 2016
- Messages
- 4,091
The embassy bombing was a good excuse for Iran to test certain systems and see what got thru.
Test is successful they continue the campaign.... or back to the drawing board.
Test is successful they continue the campaign.... or back to the drawing board.
Chuckman
Senior Member
Really the Brits and Soviets; we were the Brits' patsies, which we never should have done and had a direct impact in 1978.
Ally is a laughable statement.
Levon Affair
USS Liberty
Among millions of these.
At this point saying ally is akin to Stockholm Syndrome.
Of course they are our ally, until they aren't, then both parties pout and kiss and make up. No different than any other country. Foreign affairs is a dirty business.
Seems that every time we get into this sort of business we come out with a bloody nose and the new regime is worse in many ways than the old.
I'm with @rufrdr on this. They could have easily caused much more collateral damage with missles. Even more so if they had their Hezbollah proxies in Lebanon launch an attack.
This is a tit-for-tat, I'm assuming, that Iran wants to go no further.
Thing is, I think it will go further.
Personally, I don't buy that the world has shifted opinion towards Gaza in the fight. I think the majority of the world doesn't care, is happy to ignore it and let those two squabbling kids fight it out, and is just putting out some, "oh noes. Think of the children." statements for posterity. And I think Israel realizes this and is taking advantage of this to solve some thorns in their side. Which brings us to Iran.
Iran has several marks against it, in the US' eyes:
1.) They are making lots of drones for Russia against Ukraine.
2.) Drones are the new hotness, and the US likely doesn't like that Iran gave most smaller states a several decade leap forward in their drone capabilities.
3.) US is still mad about the downed drone Iran did. And mad about Iran thumbing their nose on the nuclear deal. And especially mad about them arming the Houthis. 'muh oil, 'muh shipping. You know how pissed off the US gets when people touch their boats.
4.) Israel has been pissed at Iran for fomenting things around all their neighbors for years.
5.) Biden doesn't want a war in his election year. But a quick fight, to show he's a strongman? I can see that.
So, my prediction:
Today: NSA will start developing a cyberweapon similar to stuxnet. Something novel that will probably take a couple years. Gotta task a malware development team off their current duties, so you gotta fill in gaps there. You gotta get spies on the ground to get human intelligence(how often do their check their logs? How good is their security? What hardware/software they using? What looks normal to them?), and will likely work with the Israelis on this.
In the next month:
Airstrikes against nuclear enrichment facilities, assassinations of scientists. Airstrikes against drone factories, but ironically the ones exporting to other countries rather than the ones Iran uses for their military.
In the next six months:
Massive cyber attacks by US, Israel. I'm assuming will be economic attacks, rather than on critical infrastructure. US has general stayed away from economic cyber attacks, that's mainly a China(more espionage than attacking, but the chinese red teams are known to moonlight by attacking video game companies to gain money for themselves)/Iran/Russia/North Korea(more stealing that attacking) but things change.
Attacks on Hezbollah, even though they were not involved in this.
In next two years:
A novel new cyber attack will come, targeting Iran, and we'll have "no idea" who from. If I was to make a guess, it would be instead of on nuclear or drone stuff, on the water and dams:
www.atlanticcouncil.org
www.bbc.com
Mainly to exacerbate the water problem and to cause rifts between them and Afghanistan.
That's my guess, I bet we'll see.
This is a tit-for-tat, I'm assuming, that Iran wants to go no further.
Thing is, I think it will go further.
Personally, I don't buy that the world has shifted opinion towards Gaza in the fight. I think the majority of the world doesn't care, is happy to ignore it and let those two squabbling kids fight it out, and is just putting out some, "oh noes. Think of the children." statements for posterity. And I think Israel realizes this and is taking advantage of this to solve some thorns in their side. Which brings us to Iran.
Iran has several marks against it, in the US' eyes:
1.) They are making lots of drones for Russia against Ukraine.
2.) Drones are the new hotness, and the US likely doesn't like that Iran gave most smaller states a several decade leap forward in their drone capabilities.
3.) US is still mad about the downed drone Iran did. And mad about Iran thumbing their nose on the nuclear deal. And especially mad about them arming the Houthis. 'muh oil, 'muh shipping. You know how pissed off the US gets when people touch their boats.
4.) Israel has been pissed at Iran for fomenting things around all their neighbors for years.
5.) Biden doesn't want a war in his election year. But a quick fight, to show he's a strongman? I can see that.
So, my prediction:
Today: NSA will start developing a cyberweapon similar to stuxnet. Something novel that will probably take a couple years. Gotta task a malware development team off their current duties, so you gotta fill in gaps there. You gotta get spies on the ground to get human intelligence(how often do their check their logs? How good is their security? What hardware/software they using? What looks normal to them?), and will likely work with the Israelis on this.
In the next month:
Airstrikes against nuclear enrichment facilities, assassinations of scientists. Airstrikes against drone factories, but ironically the ones exporting to other countries rather than the ones Iran uses for their military.
In the next six months:
Massive cyber attacks by US, Israel. I'm assuming will be economic attacks, rather than on critical infrastructure. US has general stayed away from economic cyber attacks, that's mainly a China(more espionage than attacking, but the chinese red teams are known to moonlight by attacking video game companies to gain money for themselves)/Iran/Russia/North Korea(more stealing that attacking) but things change.
Attacks on Hezbollah, even though they were not involved in this.
In next two years:
A novel new cyber attack will come, targeting Iran, and we'll have "no idea" who from. If I was to make a guess, it would be instead of on nuclear or drone stuff, on the water and dams:
Iran and Afghanistan are feuding over the Helmand River. The water wars have no end in sight.
Fatemeh Aman, a non-resident senior fellow at MEI, on why the Islamic Republic and Taliban are bumping heads on transboundary water issues.
www.atlanticcouncil.org
Iran water: What's causing the shortages?
Iranian officials have warned of historic drought while experts blame years of poor water management.
www.bbc.com
That's my guess, I bet we'll see.
Last edited:
It was not the embassy. It was near the embassy.
matttahoe53
Happy to be here
True, terrorism is the only method of warfare available to them given their resources.
I would also agree that this shouldn’t be tolerated if we had been minding our own business in the region for decades.
A continuation of the same policy is going to lead to the same result and I’m not interested in printing more money to reduce my buying power to fund this war and am also not interested in the whole sale slaughter of a nation. It would be nice if those resources could be returned to people of this country so we can fix the myriad of problems we have at home. Then if the time comes and we need to resort to all out war we do so from a position of strength.
Chuckman
Senior Member
Iran said it was their embassy, it could have been one of their embassy buildings. I've also heard consulate, but can't find anything to corroborate that now.
puregarbage
We found you, notacop
Stockholm syndrome is liking IranAlly is a laughable statement.
Levon Affair
USS Liberty
Among millions of these.
At this point saying ally is akin to Stockholm Syndrome.
DCGallim
Resident Smart-A$$
I don’t like them at all. I just see Israel as a bigger threat than them. As they’ve proven time and time again they are.
puregarbage
We found you, notacop
A bigger threat than Iran...
I realize that. However, average people like me are not their enemy, the US govt is, and quite frankly, the US govt is the enemy of the US people as well. Consequently, attacking the US people is counterproductive. It only makes the US people willing to let the US govt. exterminate the terrorists and their civilization.
It was adjacent to the embassy and in what I guess you would call an annex of the embassy. It was technically the Iranian Consolate building, in my understanding.
Whole lot of “from the river to the sea” muzzie lovers on this forum…huh, odd…. I would say “I’m watching you”. But that would be a lie, I’ve put all idiots on “ignore”….
Last edited:
There are a couple here at CFF who would be card carrying members.And their hero’s!
The Squad (United States Congress) - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
matttahoe53
Happy to be here
Totally agree with this.
Dale Gribble
Can't starve us out; Can't make us run
Charter Member
Supporting Member
Multi-Factor Enabled
Somebody comes into my backyard…into my house…and drags my wife/kids away to do God knows what to them, I’ll be driven by blood lust that’s fueled by righteous anger.
and I believe most on here would feel the same.
Sure. But what if the security company let them into your house. Shouldn’t they get their ass’s kicked too?
I submit they’ve already launched the war against us and they currently have soldiers positioned within our communities and even our congress.
Maybe they are just targeting AIPAC? 😂
I’ve said 1,000 times over 30 years, one of the big problems in the world today is that we (citizens of earth) have stopped finishing fights. We’re all about the slap and tickle when some folks just needs a good whoopin, even if it means they never get up again. We have this judeo-christian belief that every life is special and sacred when in fact we reproduce like bunnies given sufficient resources and if anything is sacred it’s the soul and not the body. I’m not in favor of murder, nor of genocide, but in my view Israel is at war with Hamas and I see no reason to get in their way.
Is that you Senator McCarthy?
Dale Gribble
Can't starve us out; Can't make us run
Charter Member
Supporting Member
Multi-Factor Enabled
I agree they’d bear some responsibilty and yeah, need to have their asses kicked…
But my primary focus would be the savages who did the deed.
McCarthy was right. @HMP can loan you the book when he’s done with it. When the Soviet Union collapsed plenty of their spy network in the US was revealed. Hell we still have the Democratic Socialists which most of the Democrats are members, and is basically a Commie organization. The McCarthiasm line is a joke.
matttahoe53
Happy to be here
War, maybe not yet, but have we let the fox into the henhouse never asking them to assimilate, absolutely. Multiculturalism is a failed concept that has weakened the country.
Dale Gribble
Can't starve us out; Can't make us run
Charter Member
Supporting Member
Multi-Factor Enabled
Violent animals understand only one dialect…violence. Don’t matter if it’s in Gaza or Rosecrans Avenue in Compton.
You cannot reason with them. There is no sitting down with them, putting your hand on their shoulder and saying, “What you’re doing is wrong”.
The only way to get through to them is by speaking their language.
You cannot reason with them. There is no sitting down with them, putting your hand on their shoulder and saying, “What you’re doing is wrong”.
The only way to get through to them is by speaking their language.
