Cannon safe keypad change to mechanical dial

I have a cannon safe with the battery powered key pad. Does anybody make a mechanical dial replacement or conversion for these?

I would call a local locksmith and see what they charge to do it. I know people who’ve had it done but didn’t do it themselves


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Easy to do, YouTube video. Easy to reprogram the new lock.
 
You should be able to do this with no problems. The Cannon safe I bought has the dial combination. You may only habe to buy parts and replace them yourself.

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I've looked online and from what I read, there is no standard replacement kit to change it. But, I have read a really good post on AR15.com with pics and model numbers. It looks straight forward. I have 2 safes I want changed over. I can get the S&G Combo Locks 6730 ( I think those are the ones I need) for under $100 total. Just need to get up the gumption to do it.
 
I've looked online and from what I read, there is no standard replacement kit to change it. But, I have read a really good post on AR15.com with pics and model numbers. It looks straight forward. I have 2 safes I want changed over. I can get the S&G Combo Locks 6730 ( I think those are the ones I need) for under $100 total. Just need to get up the gumption to do it.
If you can change the oil in your truck or car and hit steel at 100yds you can swap the lock out and reset a new combination.
 
I was really considering doing this. However, after looking on their website if I read it correctly. It will void the warranty if it is ever broken into, or damaged.
 
I was really considering doing this. However, after looking on their website if I read it correctly. It will void the warranty if it is ever broken into, or damaged.
But that's not the end of the cost/benefit analysis. Does the mech lock make it more or less likely that a break in attempt might succeed? That you can get into the safe after a fire? That you won't be accidentally locked out? If you have insurance that warranty is only worth so much.
 
As it sits now, there are 3 things that make me want to do this. 1, EMP frying the darn thing. 2, batteries ain't cheap. And 3, just lift the keypad up and rip it off, not going to be able to open it then.
 
Have you done this? What brand of safe and what brand of locks?
I changed the combination on my existing S&G lock on my Superior Safe.
It is really just remove and replace job. Sample video to remove the electronic lock.

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Dang
I changed the combination on my existing S&G lock on my Superior Safe.
It is really just remove and replace job. Sample video to remove the electronic lock.




I just lost and hour.

Thanks for posting. I'm going to do this soon.
 
The second vid was spot on. The lock sets I'm looking at were taken off new safes the owners wanted keypads. I'm waiting on a measurement of the threaded dial shaft to be sure they are long enough.
 
Most all of the lock works have the same standard mounting pattern. The only problem you may run into is the relocker mounting plate. You may need to drill a few holes.
I had replied in the other post about the hybrid kepad/dial combo that I am going to install on a smaller safe. I got it moved into my shop last week, and have started on the changeout.
I will take photos and try to post them in a new thread. Stay tuned.
 
Button Pusher,
Thanks for posting the videos. At about the 15 minute point in the second video, he starts his explanation of how to set/change the combination. Not that I need to change my combination. I've just always wondered what was involved. :)
 
Most locks come from factory set to the same combination so it is recommended
you change it after installation. After the combination has changed you keep the door openn and you dial the new combination several times to verify all is OK.
Most locks will have the resetting key in the box, if not easy to buy on ebay $12.

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I have done it twice once on a small security file cabinet someone had broken the dial off of and again on my Winchester safe to change out the keypad. As @Gazengine said the locks had the same footprint and mounting locations. Just pay attention to the orientation of the lock body as it makes a difference if not resetting the combination.
 
Well, just got 2 S&G 6741 lockets off ebay for $70 + shipping. These are used, but based on my measurements, the dial shafts are long enough. The combo set keys are only $10 or so as well. I will post full clear pics of my attempt hopefully before the Christmas Holiday.
 
OK, finally got up the nerve to either install this or screw it up. Well, it took me all of 20 minutes to do.

Keypad. Cheap plastic and uses batteries. I hate buying batteries.

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And, cut this wire or even grip and rip, no gunz for me.

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The back side of the old electronic lock.

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Top of the wire entrance.

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Electronic lock removed. Be sure to vice grip the drop bolt!!!!

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Front of the door with the keypad removed.

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OK, hit the damn wrong button and posted before I was done.

Remove the 2 hanging screw thingies for the keypad. There may or may not be 2 holes already for the ring, but mine had them. A couple of self tappers, and ring is in.

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New combo lock screwed in place.

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Install the dial and the retainer whatamajigger and tighten just till snug. Mark the length. Remove and cut the shaft to the correct length. Install lock wedge in the keyway.

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Install the backplate.

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Insert combo key in the back and set the numbers.

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Here's the front when done.

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And try the lock about a dozen times BEFORE closing the safe. Work's like a charm.

And here's the vid for help:

 
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Great write up, that's on my list of things to do. Going to take the back panel off mine to see if its compatible...
 
Yes, be sure the electronic lock is directly on the other side of the hole on the safe. My 2nd safe is different. The lock mechanism is located below the handle to open, so I'm stuck with the electronic one. For now.
 
I would call a local locksmith and see what they charge to do it. I know people who’ve had it done but didn’t do it themselves


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I have an electronic keypad and have been wanting to convert it for a little while now. Last year I called a locksmith and was quoted $200 if I supply the parts.
 
When I bought my safes, I was told to get the manual combo lock was and additional $300, so I passed on that. $40 (each) on ebay and 20 min I was done. The combo tool to change the combination was $7 and it took an additional 5 min. So about 30 all together. From what I have gathered, the mounting plates are all about the same between safe manufacturers. I now have an extra keypad and lock from the safe I can always use on some home built project in the future. And after a few days of playing with it like a kid with a new toy, I'm about as fast opening it as I was with the keypad.
 
And after a few days of playing with it like a kid with a new toy, I'm about as fast opening it as I was with the keypad.
I’ve had my Drake for a year and a couple months, and I still can’t remember which way I need to start turning the dial...every time. :oops:
 
I have done it twice once on a small security file cabinet someone had broken the dial off of and again on my Winchester safe to change out the keypad. As @Gazengine said the locks had the same footprint and mounting locations. Just pay attention to the orientation of the lock body as it makes a difference if not resetting the combination.

I have a Winchester safe. What manufacturer and model number for the lock did you go with? Is it hard to change the combination? Called a different locksmith this morning. $100 if I supply the part and be doesn't have to drill.
 
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I purchased a S&G takeoff of a liberty safe, unknown combo. I figured out the combo prior to installing the lock and never changed it from that.
If you have the combination key it is easy to change the combo to whatever you desire. There are plenty of videos on Youtube.
 
I purchased a S&G takeoff of a liberty safe, unknown combo. I figured out the combo prior to installing the lock and never changed it from that.
If you have the combination key it is easy to change the combo to whatever you desire. There are plenty of videos on Youtube.

Thanks. I sent @grungewehr39 a PM regarding the S&G locks he purchased but I'll ask one of the questions here. On Ebay, the company selling the 2 locks for $70 have several listings. On some the dial shaft is the same length and on others the dial shafts are two different lengths. Would it be better to buy the ones with two different lengths to cover my bases so to speak? I assume I need to buy the key to change the combination separately.
 
@grungewehr39
on your dial, there is a key cylinder... explain its purpose... does it lock the rotating knob or act as a quick open feature?
 
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