Mosin Nagants in Astan

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This one came to me wrap in a black wrap around the stock. Cut it open and receiver is a 1921 dated Ishevsk. Stock and forearm were badly damaged which required repair. Gun did fire but at 15 yds is key holing and case sticking every time to chamber. Gun will just be a wall hanger for the Soviet/Russian collection.

As brought in on right in the black wrap
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Busted stock and forearm
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Disassembled while repairing stock. Cold blued the exposed metal
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Rebuilt and put on wall with the other Russians. Need to strip the wood and refinish later.
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Another MN, 1891 Dragoon rifle built by Ishevsk in 1922. That's three years after the Bolsheviks took over the country. Rifle has seen better days, multiple stock cracks (green tape holding it together), rear sight broken and flops, top on striker/safety lug is broken, buttplate broken and magazine spring is broken. Can still be feed as a single shot and kill a man at close range. Captured last year in Afghanistan.

Dragoon with Pattern 14
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From 7.62x54R.net

Shortly after the adoption of the M91 Infantry rifle two shorter versions were developed for mounted troops. The M91 Dragoon was intended for mounted infantry and the M91 Cossack for cavalry. At 48 ¾” they are 2 ½” shorter than the M91's 51 ¼”. The primary difference in the two is the Dragoon was sighted with the bayonet attached and the Cossack was not issued with a bayonet. Cossack rifles are scarce today and easily recognized by the mark "Ka3" on the chamber. Production of these models only took place at Izhevsk and Tula and overlapped M91/30 production by a few years in the early 1930s. Most of these rifles were later updated to M91/30 specifications with new sights, handguards, and barrel bands, but will retain the earlier barrel markings shown on this page. They are commonly referred to as "ex-Dragoons" or "updated Dragoons" by collectors. "Updated Cossacks" are much less common, but have been documented.

The rifle pictured at the top of the page is in original configuration with the early flat rear sight leaf, no recoil bolt and the full length handguard which wraps around the rear sight base. The rifle pictured below is in the later configuration with the Konovalov rear sight, recoil bolt, and a shortened handguard. The rear of the handguards were often damaged and simply cut back and later were produced in that configuration. Dragoons and Cossacks which have not been fully upgraded with M91/30 sights often have M91/30 handguards and barrel bands. Among collectors the type of sights is the primary consideration when determining if a rifle is a Dragoon or ex-Dragoon regardless of the handguard and barrel band types.

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@Combat Diver
I was wondering what where all this stuff goes after you get it, and even fix/restore them?
I have a RPD, but it doesn't shoot like yours. :oops:
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Some of the guns get demilled and guys take them home as War Trophies (where the 1922 went). Some will hang on the wall to educate troops over here. If and big IF the Senate bill ever goes thru redefining an antique from 1898 to 100 yrs from todays date in the future, then I could import them. As of now if we pull out they'll more likely get demilled or destroyed :(

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Well that sucks. They should be C&R at least.
 
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Combat Diver said:
Another MN, 1891 Dragoon rifle built by Ishevsk in 1922. That's three years after the Bolsheviks took over the country. Rifle has seen better days, multiple stock cracks (green tape holding it together), rear sight broken and flops, top on striker/safety lug is broken, buttplate broken and magazine spring is broken. Can still be feed as a single shot and kill a man at close range. Captured last year in Afghanistan.

Dragoon with Pattern 14
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Pics in this post (#2) aren't showing for me. Anyone else?
 
Combat Diver said:
Another MN, 1891 Dragoon rifle built by Ishevsk in 1922. That's three years after the Bolsheviks took over the country. Rifle has seen better days, multiple stock cracks (green tape holding it together), rear sight broken and flops, top on striker/safety lug is broken, buttplate broken and magazine spring is broken. Can still be feed as a single shot and kill a man at close range. Captured last year in Afghanistan.

Dragoon with Pattern 14
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Kind of like that green tape. I may coverup my glock with it just so it doesn't look like every other black polymer pistol out there
 
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They should be as they are hosted on this site?

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Yeah, I dunno why. That last one shows up fine.

Not just this thread; sometimes I just see "." Oh well.

Anyway-love those rubber stock enhancements on the M44. They got a Hogue in Astan? lol. The shotgun next to it looks like a Winchester mdl 24, but can't tell if its single or bbl SxS edge-on.

EDIT: ok, that's weird - I typed "bracket IMG bracket" but everythiing inside the quotes disappeared from the actual post. Might have to ask a mod. Side issue-carry on!
 
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Yeah, I dunno why. That last one shows up fine.

Not just this thread; sometimes I just see "." Oh well.

Anyway-love those rubber stock enhancements on the M44. They got a Hogue in Astan? lol. The shotgun next to it looks like a Winchester mdl 24, but can't tell if its single or bbl SxS edge-on.

EDIT: ok, that's weird - I typed "bracket IMG bracket" but everythiing inside the quotes disappeared from the actual post. Might have to ask a mod. Side issue-carry on!
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More likely a Russian single shot shotgun. They are all over here.

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Combat Diver said:
More likely a Russian single shot shotgun. They are all over here.

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I encountered HR "Topper" and Winchester 37s siezed from the Kurds in Iran that were decorated in tribal furniture tacks and ribbons, and exported to the U.S. in the 70s. Thousands of them came in and I assisted in processing them. I imagine a lot of them filtered into Afghanistan also.
 
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Whats the story with the green tape? I've seen pics of quite a few firearms from over there that have been repaired with that same kind of green tape.
 
Cut weld off, filed flat, deburred, reblued crown. Don't have proper tools to recrown but its going just be a shooter. It does shoot as 5 rds of tracer down range this afternoon.
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Early bayonet mount, later wouldn't have the flat but two hooked ends.
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High wall reciever as built from 43'-45'. As seen here (not a reused receiver)
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Group photo, linked 1500 rds into PKM belts last two days by hand.
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Had the trigger spring/bolt stop in the M44 (1945) break on the range today. Have put something near 1500 rds thru it lately. Came back from the range, grabbed the shot out 1891 Dragoon (1921 dated) and swapped parts.

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Got a new to me M44 yesterday, 1947 dated Izhevsk with folding bayonet. Noticed crack in stock, which wasn't a crack but toe of stock dovetailed into the stock. Dropped some Gorilla glue and let is set overnight. Broke the gun down and dropped her into the solvent tank also overnight.

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Parts oiled
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Reassembled with top 1891 Dragoon, made by Izhevsk in 1921 and the barrel is shot out. Middle M44 Izhevsk 1945 dated missing bayonet. We've put nearly 2000 rds thru this one this summer. Broke the trigger/bolt stop spring which swapped with the Dragoon. Bottom M44 1947 as described above.
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Do you think that dovetail was a stock-block glue up from Ishevsk, maybe the hide glue gave way? Seems a bit sophisticated for an Afghani field repair.
 
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