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This guy makes some good points:
https://thewriterinblack.com/2019/08/14/how-do-you-propose-to-end-mass-shootings-then/
https://thewriterinblack.com/2019/08/14/how-do-you-propose-to-end-mass-shootings-then/
Are you like....lost or something?
Agree with him on the first one but n the second all those three examples are of people doing things to themselves not others.Are you like....lost or something?
Everybody here would loose their mind.STOP REPORTING THE SHOOTER’S NAME AND PICTURE YOU MORONS!!
Agree with him on the first one but n the second all those three examples are of people doing things to themselves not others.
I agree. Even if they report all of the other details. Conspiracies abound when information is suppressed.Everybody here would loose their mind.
"What are they trying to hide?".
Exactly. A better analogy would say make those first three things illegal to solve the problem.Perfect example of bad analogies and the failure of goal oriented thinking.
That wouldn't work, just from some of what I have read on this forum alone, there are more than a few people here that would be getting a daily dose of EST.It is quite simple but no one has the guts to do anything. There will always be violent and deranged, mentally off people. We need to bring back the mental hospitals we started closing in the late 1970s. During the 50,60,70 and even into the 1980 people who were seen as outside the social norms were dealt with. A teacher, parent, law officer, judge, preacher or others would notice and contact the correct authority. These people who commit these mass shootings have all displayed signs of anti-social behavior. Somebody always notices. But now we throw our hands up and say we cannot do anything about it. Its time to start sending these people on the edge, to be evaluated. If they are a harm to themselves or others then off to the hospital they go to be rehabilitated of simply locked up to keep society safe. It's not the guns it is the deranged people who are delusional about life and their place in it. We gotta stop mollycoddling people who OBVIOUSLY have little respect for themselves or anyone else. Fear is a great motivator. If I begin to think the rhetoric from others is real, What I see on TV is real, what I dream is real, that my video game is real, I need to know if I act on these irrational feelings my actions will have repercussions. A month or so in a mental hospital could be an eye-opening experience for many misguided people.
I thought we were the due process whiners.???I thought about this some more. And while I still think it's a terrific idea, it would get thwarted by the "due process" whiners and the "judge, jury, & executioner" whiners.
Time for some “common sense” First Amendment regulation. I’m only somewhat kidding. It would be far better for every news outlet to do it of their own volition but either way....
STOP REPORTING THE SHOOTER’S NAME AND PICTURE YOU MORONS!!
This has become almost like a social media of sorts where your “likes” are how much coverage you get and it’s sickening!! It almost provides an incentive for depressed, suicidal individuals who want to be remembered. Do not give them exactly what they want. Report the victims and the heroes who try and stop the shooter. Make their names and pictures the things that pop into an entire nation’s mind not the A-hole who committed the atrocity. Good on the media outfits who have already done this voluntarily. Report on the event itself just deny the shooter the notoriety. I get that this info will ultimately be disseminated and social media/the internet (h/t Al Gore) is a thing I just hate these shootings happen and wanted to voice frustration.
(I fully understand the ramifications of undermining the First and am not arguing in favor of doing so. Opening that door would be just as dire as undermining the Second.)
There have always been violent, antisocial people who will harm others, rape, pillage, steal, etc. It used to be that people dealt with them. When the people couldn’t deal with them individually they bound together, mustered, engaged the local sheriff or constable, etc. It used to be that it was rare for govt. to get involved and even then when it was a major crime. The founders put the power in the hands of the People. This notion of pleading to and waiting for some “authority” is a rather modern concept and is a large part of the problem. Govt. justice is a failure. Prison and jails are a failure. The idea of them being some sort of stinking “authority” is an affront.It is quite simple but no one has the guts to do anything. There will always be violent and deranged, mentally off people. We need to bring back the mental hospitals we started closing in the late 1970s. During the 50,60,70 and even into the 1980 people who were seen as outside the social norms were dealt with. A teacher, parent, law officer, judge, preacher or others would notice and contact the correct authority. These people who commit these mass shootings have all displayed signs of anti-social behavior. Somebody always notices.(Snip)
That’s what the left has been trying to do with gun owners and people who shoot for sport or hunt.Shame them.
The most powerful thing in life, as a young person, is social acceptance.
They made smoking "uncool"...now very few young folks smoke.
It's not access to the tobacco that made smoking less popular.
There have always been violent, antisocial people who will harm others, rape, pillage, steal, etc. It used to be that people dealt with them. When the people couldn’t deal with them individually they bound together, mustered, engaged the local sheriff or constable, etc. It used to be that it was rare for govt. to get involved and even then when it was a major crime. The founders put the power in the hands of the People. This notion of pleading to and waiting for some “authority” is a rather modern concept and is a large part of the problem. Govt. justice is a failure. Prison and jails are a failure. The idea of them being some sort of stinking “authority” is an affront.
People need to start taking responsibility and act and stop waiting for some “authority” to do something.
Perfect example of bad analogies and the failure of goal oriented thinking.
I think they're all vaping now. I have gone to get gas and start smelling Blueberry Muffins nearby, just to turn the corner and see some fat hipster vaping.Shame them.
The most powerful thing in life, as a young person, is social acceptance.
They made smoking "uncool"...now very few young folks smoke.
It's not access to the tobacco that made smoking less popular.
I wasn't referring to those that need mental or other help. Most families simply won't have the resources, let alone training, to deal with them. I was think more of the criminal sort and the idea that justice and even enforcing law needs to go back to being a function of the people and not government. People have abdicated their responsibilities to government, which is all too happy to accept the power. We need to undo this.So let me get this straight. The families that raised them, and in some parts contributed to these issues, are supposed to be the ones that treat them too? I'm big on footing your own bill, but lets be honest, that's part of the issue too. My dealings lead me to believe they can't really do that either.
When my grandmother was a young women she was kidnapped and they attempted to rape her. She basically fought back and escaped somewhere around Morganton after being taken from the Hickory area. She said she went to a house for help and they let her make a phone call. Their son was locked up in the basement because, according to her, he wasn't right. Yeah, try that today. A lot of things sound good, but just are not going to work.
Some families just don't have the skills, funding, or ability to correctly deal with the mental health issues that are going to drive someone to do this.
I like your ideology. But that ship sailed a long time ago. Gov has taken the ability for the citizens to "control, address, handle, reform" "you chose the best word" these uncontrollable/a people.There have always been violent, antisocial people who will harm others, rape, pillage, steal, etc. It used to be that people dealt with them. When the people couldn’t deal with them individually they bound together, mustered, engaged the local sheriff or constable, etc. It used to be that it was rare for govt. to get involved and even then when it was a major crime. The founders put the power in the hands of the People. This notion of pleading to and waiting for some “authority” is a rather modern concept and is a large part of the problem. Govt. justice is a failure. Prison and jails are a failure. The idea of them being some sort of stinking “authority” is an affront.
People need to start taking responsibility and act and stop waiting for some “authority” to do something.
And therein lays the answere to the problem..."gov has taken the ability for the citizens to control".I like your ideology. But that ship sailed a long time ago. Gov has taken the ability for the citizens to "control, address, handle, reform" "you chose the best word" these uncontrollable/a people.
Are these people really famous or memorable? I couldn't tell you the name of a single one of them...
I agree on the shaming thing. We should start making memes making fun of their manhood and such. Make it a laughing stock thing to do. That would shut it down on some level I guarantee...
Famous, no, infamous yes. Their names have gone from unmemorable to being tied to a horrific historic event. We may not be able to rattle their names off, but some people can. Much in the same way that not everyone can recall the first baseman for the Yankees in 1993. But that doesn't make that athlete any less "famous" in his own right.
Don Mattingly, duh... Hall of famer...