Colt Halts Production of Long Guns for the Retail Market

They were the first to fold under Clinton. Remember former CEO Ron Stewart stated that he would favor a federal permit system with training and testing for gun ownership?
Then the next idiot was all in favor of 'smart guns?"

I'm sure this is 90% business related but the Prancing Pony has always leaned to the SJW side of the 2A at least during my lifetime.
 
Sadly that ole horse is getting lame. Look at where they are located, eventually the koolaid leaks into their water and spreads. I love their re-inventing of the “snake guns”, but they are the not the company they once were. They still run the sear block or sear web in their rifles.
 
Now they will be even more valuable! Cool!

:rolleyes:
 
Meh, I was never going to buy a Colt anyway. For better ARs I'd much rather have a Noveske, Daniel Defense, LMT, or BCM anyway. I figured it was more about numbers for them, but if they want to throw Leftist views around, that'll just make me stay farther away.
 
Just checked my one distributor who carries Colt. Only thing they have in stock is a few of their uber expensive reissue guns. Of course, they may not have had any of the "normal" Colt ARs in stock before this, but they sure don't now.

Given the weakness of the over $500 AR market in recent years, this doesn't surprise me.
 
Strangely, I feel a little better knowing that it was a business decision versus a walmart/dicks type decision.
 
I think I might take a couple 6920s to the show this weekend to see if they will finally sell. I had gotten to where I just left them home, as they got no attention.

Might even make a huge, scary sign:

"GET A COLT WHILE YOU STILL CAN! THEY HAVE BANNED THEMSELVES!"

LOL
 
Meh. Every "modern" Colt AR I have had in my hands has left me scratching my head. Laughably over priced bottom tier basic milspec carbine. Would never even occur to me as a viable option for an AR. Most over rated gun ever, imo.
Arfcom can have them.
 
Meh. Every "modern" Colt AR I have had in my hands has left me scratching my head. Laughably over priced bottom tier basic milspec carbine. Would never even occur to me as a viable option for an AR. Most over rated gun ever, imo.
Arfcom can have them.

Why would you say that? You can get a 6920 for $800, which ain't bad. A thousand, no; $800 is a great price. A boringly reliable carbine.*

*I'm no fan-boy; I shoot the 6920 and BCMs.
 
Why would you say that? You can get a 6920 for $800, which ain't bad. A thousand, no; $800 is a great price. A boringly reliable carbine.*

*I'm no fan-boy; I shoot the 6920 and BCMs.


I take any part off a Colt rifle, and compare it to Aero Precision, and it loses by comparison. So, I feel that for the same money, I can get much better finish and quality.

I'd consider it if the price were more in line with the cheap PSA, which I feel is comparable.
 
I take any part off a Colt rifle, and compare it to Aero Precision, and it loses by comparison. So, I feel that for the same money, I can get much better finish and quality.

I'd consider it if the price were more in line with the cheap PSA, which I feel is comparable.

Yep this pretty much nails it for me.
 
I don't have a dog in this fight. I have only 4 ARs and None are especially "pride of ownership" items. Tools,,think Glock, to me.

What does bother me about this is looking back at Camp Perry, for 2700 shooters, SASS for the Cowboy in us, IPSC in it's Heyday, 3 gun matches, really Most competitions were started with Colt base products. Awful for an old timer like me to see this Grand old Mark slip away. I sure hope @Amp Mangum is right about the foreign contracts.
 
Colt really is a nostalgia line these days.

With what Aero, Q, Noveske, BCM, LWRC, even PSA and other budget lines bring to market, Colt simply can't keep up.

If you like the name, then great. Grab one just to say you own a Colt.

But if my life depended on it, I'm confident in my Aero stock.

You have another Aero?

:D
 
I take any part off a Colt rifle, and compare it to Aero Precision, and it loses by comparison. So, I feel that for the same money, I can get much better finish and quality.

I'd consider it if the price were more in line with the cheap PSA, which I feel is comparable.

Interesting. Not my experience. To me, Colt is approximate (i.e., same/same) with BCM. For me it's Colt and go up: BCM, DD, LMT, etc. Interesting how perceptions and subjectivity go on these things.
 
I take any part off a Colt rifle, and compare it to Aero Precision, and it loses by comparison. So, I feel that for the same money, I can get much better finish and quality.

I'd consider it if the price were more in line with the cheap PSA, which I feel is comparable.


Didn't used to be that way. I'll buy older Colts still, but the stuff they've been turning out since 2014-2015 is just not the same as their 2011ish and earlier products.
 
I like the 6920. It's "the" quintessential AR-15. I'd like to have another. That said, screw 'em and the horse they rode in on....
I see what you did there. I often thought Colt and Ferrari should have done some sort of collaboration. :D

From what I remember, firearms are a small part of Colt Industries. I believe Crucible Steel is their money maker.
 
They and FN have a big contract with the Army to upgrade M4 to M4A1. This could be part of it. The other parts may too high of production costs to compete with the mass market guns and a desire to lie low for awhile.
 
They and FN have a big contract with the Army to upgrade M4 to M4A1. This could be part of it. The other parts may too high of production costs to compete with the mass market guns and a desire to lie low for awhile.

Doing it now gives them flexibility based on the outcome of the 2020 elections. They have the “We had to concentrate on our military obligations” card, as well as the “We were the first rifle manufacturer to address the gun violence epidemic” card.
 
Didn't used to be that way.
Back in the 1900s. Around the early and mid 80s even, if you wanted an AR that worked it had Better say Colt. 35 years ago if you had Olympic Arms and all the others and wanted it to work, a Colt Carrier was Mandatory.
 
So what AR do I need to obsess over buying and then not buy?
 
Interesting. Not my experience. To me, Colt is approximate (i.e., same/same) with BCM. For me it's Colt and go up: BCM, DD, LMT, etc. Interesting how perceptions and subjectivity go on these things.

Precisely. Colt/BCM/PSA = all about the same. About as close to the same as you can possibly get. Literally. I swear they pump them all out of the same big room.

:p

DD a nice step up from all those, imo.


LMT: 1400$ for this m4 thing (of which I'd change half the parts for decent ones, so add another 600 at least):
https://lmtdefense.com/firearms/spm16

Hahahah, no thanks. Hard pass on LMT.

:)
 
Precisely. Colt/BCM/PSA = all about the same. About as close to the same as you can possibly get. Literally. I swear they pump them all out of the same big room.

:p

DD a nice step up from all those, imo.


LMT: 1400$ for this m4 thing (of which I'd change half the parts for decent ones, so add another 600 at least):
https://lmtdefense.com/firearms/spm16

Hahahah, no thanks. Hard pass on LMT.

:)

I could never in good conscience put PSA in the same convo. I just...can't, lol. Yeah, LMT is expensive, but they are built to last. A lot of pipe-hitters use LMT. DD is great, but no better than Colt/BCM. Their money-maker is/was the Mk18 and their rails, but I think of DD as boutique-ish. Same for LWRC, KAC, and Noveske. Not saying bad, at all, but price range puts them in rarefied air.
 
Ruger did the 10 round thing, Smith added the Hillary hole locks, but Colt's CEO advocated against the 2A being a right and more of a privilege that required training before licensing.
I thought there was more than below. I had 2 S&W SS autos in the 90's and was not impressed, sold them. S&W cozying up to Clinton, being foreign owned (British) and making a Glock copy, that worked with parts swapped, really soured me to S&W. I do like their revolvers and M&P AR.

CLINTON ADMINISTRATION REACHES HISTORIC AGREEMENT
WITH SMITH AND WESSON March 17, 2000
- Today, President Clinton will highlight an historic agreement with Smith and Wesson
New design standards to make guns safer and prevent accidental shootings and gun deaths
- Locking devices-
Safety locking devices will be required for handguns and pistols
- Smart guns Authorized user technology will be included in all new firearm models within 36 months
- Large capacity magazines New firearms will not be able to accept ammunition magazines with a capacity of over 10 rounds
- Safety testing and standards. All firearms are to be tested by ATF
- Other safety devices. Within one year, all pistols will have chamber load indictors
- New sales and distribution controls- Under the deal, manufacturers will agree to sell only to authorized dealers and distributors who agree to a code of conduct
- Cutting off dealers with disproportionate crime guns
- Gun shows.
Authorized dealers cannot sell at gun shows unless every seller at the gun show conducts background checks.
- Ballistics testing. To help law enforcement trace guns used in crime when only the bullet or casing is recovered, ballistics fingerprints will be provided for all new firearms to ATF/FBI
- Safety training for purchasers. No sales will be made to dealers who do not require gun purchasers to demonstrate that they can safety handle and store firearms.
- Weapons attractive to criminals. Authorized dealers and distributors will not sell large capacity ammunition magazines or semiautomatic assault weapons. (but didn't Clinton already made those illegal)
- Restrictions on multiple handgun sales. To deter illegal gun trafficking, dealers must agree to new limits on multiple handgun sales. All purchasers of multiple handguns can only take one handgun from the day of sale, the remainder 14 days later.
Source: https://clintonwhitehouse4.archives.gov/WH/New/html/20000317_2.html
 
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I could never in good conscience put PSA in the same convo. I just...can't, lol. Yeah, LMT is expensive, but they are built to last. A lot of pipe-hitters use LMT. DD is great, but no better than Colt/BCM. Their money-maker is/was the Mk18 and their rails, but I think of DD as boutique-ish. Same for LWRC, KAC, and Noveske. Not saying bad, at all, but price range puts them in rarefied air.

Different strokes man. I view them based on their parts. If it is all basic milspec parts and forged receivers, that's fine. It's a basic milspec forged carbine.

I put DD above these because they at least try to innovate and actually design something. They're upper/handguard interface is interesting. They've designed a nice stock and grip for their guns. I feel the finish is way better than Colt. Not even in the same league. They are recognizable as DD rifles. That's hard to do in the AR business.
But I wouldn't buy one of those either.

As to the LMT/KAC/Noveske: I am sure there is a buyer for those out there. To me they are slightly premium versions of the ones above, for only 2-3 X the cost. What a deal.
 
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