Anybody know if these is a number for getting the ATF involved for an FFL that has essentially stolen my money?
Anybody know if these is a number for getting the ATF involved for an FFL that has essentially stolen my money?
BBB would be the ones to talk to about business practices.
... or these forums. LolEven the BBB really only cares about "members" and has limited ability to do anything more than lower the stores rating. Not all stores even belong to BBB theses days. Blasting away on Yelp, Google reviews, Facebook, Twitter can sometimes get results but only if the shop looks at it or cares about their reputation. Sadly, there are those that do not give a flip about reputation and have a very thick skin regarding what people say about them...
Just a small time Gunbroker FFL out of KS. Cashed my MO several weeks ago and keeps promising to ship only for the day to pass and a new excuse to pop up for why it didn't get shipped.
I had the same thought when I read a money order was involved (it was a USPS MO, right?). I’d write one more email telling him that next Tuesday I will report him to the Postmaster for mail fraud if the item isn’t in my hands.If you actually mailed him that MO then it becomes postal fraud so while the ATF may not care the post office has a half dozen ways to get that reported.
Just like you to feed the poor guy’s drug habit.I had the same thing happen to me.
I put a deposit on an AK with a shop in a neighboring town. After about a month passed without receiving my gun (the guy kept saying he missed UPS each time), I contacted the magistrate's office in his town. The magistrate knew the dealer's father and coincidentally, was going to be with him at supper that evening.
He called me the next day and told me I could come get my deposit back. Turns out the guy used my money for cocaine and never ordered the rifle.
I had the same thought when I read a money order was involved (it was a USPS MO, right?). I’d write one more email telling him that next Tuesday I will report him to the Postmaster for mail fraud if the item isn’t in my hands.
For everyone that says they never use a Credit Card, there's a story like this. This is exactly why I ONLY use CC's for online purchases. Your ability to dispute a transaction is 100x better than with MO, check, etc.
I had a similar experience back in the 1980s. I bought a new Ford Ranger pickup. Paid the guy doing the sale 1200 bucks and financed the rest. I’d also put $100 down to hold the truck that was not added into the deal. About 2 weeks later I get a call at work from the owner of the dealership asking when I was going to pay the rest of the money for my truck? I said “What money?” He’d said the $1200 that you still owe us. I told him that I’d paid that the day I did the deal and had a receipt for it. He asked how I paid it, check, credit card, MO... I told him cash, 12 $100 bills. It got quite and I said to ask his guy. He said he hadn’t seen his guy for 2 weeks. I almost laughed at him! Then I told him that he owed me a $100 that was put down on the truck but not figured in on the deal. He tried to weasel out of it saying that he’d already looked like he’d lost $1200 and he wasn’t going to lose anymore. I told him that I had a receipt for that too! And I’d call a lawyer. He hung up and a couple days later I got my money in the mail. They found the guy later that week holed up at a hotel with a girl and a bunch of Coke! He was married to a girl that worked in the office were I worked at the time.I had the same thing happen to me.
I put a deposit on an AK with a shop in a neighboring town. After about a month passed without receiving my gun (the guy kept saying he missed UPS each time), I contacted the magistrate's office in his town. The magistrate knew the dealer's father and coincidentally, was going to be with him at supper that evening.
He called me the next day and told me I could come get my deposit back. Turns out the guy used my money for cocaine and never ordered the rifle.
Just like you to feed the poor guy’s drug habit.
Just a small time Gunbroker FFL out of KS. Cashed my MO several weeks ago and keeps promising to ship only for the day to pass and a new excuse to pop up for why it didn't get shipped.
Not ready to burn him just yet, but currently lighting a fire under his ass.
I had an "issue" with a guy on GB some years ago, and I contacted both GB and the PO (I'd paid with a MO). The seller was a one-off, so I doubt he was concerned about his online reputation. In any case, GB got on his case & I learned there ain't much you can do about small-time fraud through the PO.Doesn’t gunbroker have a system that protect buyers?
edit - I did a search on gunbroker website:
GunBroker.com recommends the seller and buyer make contact within 5 days, buyer makes payment within 10 days from the time the listing ended, and the seller ships the item within 14 days from the time payment is received.
Please, make sure to review the seller's listing and Terms of Sale for specifics regarding their transaction process.
Please, contact the seller directly to make payment and shipping arrangements, as well as request shipping and tracking status. Please, click here for instructions on how to contact the seller.
If a seller is unwilling to complete a transaction, we ask you to notify Customer Support and to post appropriate feedback. See Submitting Feedback.
If you have not received the item or a refund after 30 days, you may be eligible for Buyer’s Protection coverage under our Buyer's Protection Program.
Small claims court filing through the long arm statute might get his attention and cost him more than the item you paid for.Just a small time Gunbroker FFL out of KS. Cashed my MO several weeks ago and keeps promising to ship only for the day to pass and a new excuse to pop up for why it didn't get shipped.
Not ready to burn him just yet, but currently lighting a fire under his ass.
I really hate having to be a jerk...
You just need more practice..
You just need more practice..
You just need more practice..
Jerking? Phil thinks I'm a natural.
Natural you are but you can always do better. Aim higher, man.