My guess in nyc case you have some many people that do not own cars and use and share public transportation in very close promity at times it could spread rapidly and thats what we are seeing.
Has the Curve been flattened?
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My guess in nyc case you have some many people that do not own cars and use and share public transportation in very close promity at times it could spread rapidly and thats what we are seeing.
Chuckman
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I feel ya. This or something like this has happened to most HC organizations.
They aren't incompetent at all. In fact, they are just the opposite. The guys running these firms have perfected the art of sucking every dime they can from the taxpayers and the company itself.
Don’t think we will truly see the accuracy other than best guesses at this point with data lagging. The local hospitals were going full bore testing beginning of last week then did a 180 again to only testing the severe cases in ER and shut down the drive up testing places. Plus you still have the wait period for test to come back involved.
So if we would just all get on board with a train system here in Raleigh we could have the same life NYers have! Yippee. More public transit please.
Meckmeister
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I've followed reports of an American business man who's worked in Japan for over ten years, continuous except to visit the States. He says the Japanese did not quarantine when China did. They continued to pack the trains and go home to their high-rises. But they did testing very early and aggressively tracked those in the infesting network.
Just in the last two weeks they have started work at home around Tokyo as new cases are spiking. Thats about the time they put a stall on the Olympics, also for their own reasons. Their threat is all the inyernational travelers who are still arriving in Japan.
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i think we need to come to terms with the endemic outcome of this virus. With the number infected so far, I don’t think it’s possible to eradicate via killing off the “transmission chains”. It just doesn’t seem mathematically plausible anymore. Like HIV, there has been too much transmission and it’s likely a virus we can add to the species list for future.
whether it will be seasonal or something like that I am less sure. But one more path to eradication is mass vaccination a la small pox.
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China not the only breeding zone. Parts of India and South and central America are also big into “live animal markets”.
we really can’t avoid farming activity and other necessary animal interactions, but we CAN limit the close confines of animals with viruses from all over the globe converging in filthy 3rd world markets where viruses cross infect new animals increasing mutation rate and probability of jump potential etc. this has been a huge issue with bird and swine flus.
With proper global “best practices” I think we can get back to having 100 year diseases every 100 years instead of every 10.
we should also all be demanding our government leaders cut billions of aid $$$ to Pakistan, Iran et al, and NOT the NIH who funds the largest portion of biomedical research in our nation.
I’d add the CDC in there, but quite frankly they need to step up their game before being rewarded. Like, wow they handled Ebola Well. I’m not impressed the highest funded medical institute on planet was able to contain a poor transmitter with clinical signs that include bleeding out of your effing eyeballs lol. They botched covid, they botched H1N1, they both HIV...anything of any real challenge.
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Can't find it right now, but I read a study from a reputable source (i.e. like NIH, might even have been there) indicating that at least in the early stages of the pandemic, an estimated 86% of those infected were asymptomatic. Methodology did not appear suspect or shoddy.