So when is this thing going to hit?

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I know.... Another Kung Flu thread... :rolleyes:

But seriously, I've been hearing for a month now that in the next week or two it's going to explode then level off. Every week it's two weeks out...

When is that two weeks going to arrive?
 
I don't know of any deaths personally.
Realtor for our last home purchase had 4 online funeral drivers in one day for extended family in NJ.
But NJ is a state with a governor more concerned with blessing Trump than the people of the state.
My SIL got the drug cocktail as soon as she was admitted with 60%PSO2.
She was released 4 days later.
But not all hospitals are allowing the cocktail even when prescribed by an attending.

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I know.... Another Kung Flu thread... :rolleyes:

But seriously, I've been hearing for a month now that in the next week or two it's going to explode then level off. Every week it's two weeks out...

When is that two weeks going to arrive?
well, the entire lockdown thing has been an effort to slow it down and push the peak further back...
It's fair to keep changing the prediction when the factors adding in to the prediction change.
As for an actual date? The only one i've heard was put out a week or so ago and it listed as the ~20th to be our worst day.
 
I don't know of any deaths personally.
Realtor for our last home purchase had 4 online funeral drivers in one day for extended family in NJ.
But NJ is a state with a governor more concerned with blessing Trump than the people of the state.
My SIL got the drug cocktail as soon as she was admitted with 60%PSO2.
She was released 4 days later.
But not all hospitals are allowing the cocktail even when prescribed by an attending.

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Drug cocktail?
 
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Edit: Chuckman has new news. ^^

Disregard:
Last I heard maybe a week ago in Wake County, or maybe it was the whole state, was that they were pushing the peak date out from mid April to late April.
 
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Our in-house data-crunchers say our peak will be April 24-May 4. Our numbers of admits are going up slowly but steadily. 50ish staff have tested positive and are in quarantine at home.
You at Duke, Durham Regional, UNC?
 
well, the entire lockdown thing has been an effort to slow it down and push the peak further back...

I understand this statement 100%. No grey area. I've heard it before and it made sense then too.

But the back end of my mind hears "we're not really trying to stop you from catching it, we're just trying to delay you catching it", as if there's no escape from this thing.
 
One thing I think we need to keep in mind is the whole point behind this whole social distancing is to try to prevent it from getting to the "OH NO HERE IT IS!" stage. It slows things down. We went from a few dead per day, to a few hundred, and now we are above 1,000. So >if< this whole "staying away from people" thing works, then the "ITS ARRIVED" will really not happen in the apocalyptic way we feel it will.
 
From the source of a coworkers wife who is working with one of the big name researchers on this at UNC, I agree with @Chuckman of April 24th to May 4th for our peak. The peak in NC is predicted to occur later than the nation as a whole.

But seriously, I've been hearing for a month now that in the next week or two it's going to explode then level off. Every week it's two weeks out...
The problem is that it's an exponential growth. Exponential functions aren't something people are used to thinking in terms of. They start out, and remain, really slow for a long period of time and then suddenly take off like mad.

I have used the following analogy in a few threads, but it really does illustrate the principle. If you have a pond with a lily pad and the pad(s) double each day and it takes 48 days to completely cover the pond, how many days to cover half of it? I asked my dad this question yesterday and he said 24, which is incorrect. The correct answer is 47 days. In fact, if you go back one week from being fully covered you will have less than 1% of the pond covered. It's a 2^(x) function - and in 7 days 2^7 is 128 meaning you have 1/128th the number as of a week prior. Likewise with a pond where the lily pads double every day at day 48 you have 2.81x10^14 (think of it as 281,475 x 1 billion), which is a lot of lily pads, but back at day 10 you only have 1028 lily pads.

In terms of the corona virus, everything we can do to reduce the number of others that each person infects is like reducing the 2 in the 2^x lily pad problem. Lets say for example we reduce it to 1.5 If we did that, at 48 days we would have 283,387,333 lilypads or in rough number one-one-millionth of the number of lily pads. By reducing the spread each infected person contributes, even a little bit, the net result is a dramatic decrease.

Being an exponential function, any reaction at the start is going to seem like a supreme over reaction. At the end it is going to seem like an absurd under reaction.
 
From the source of a coworkers wife who is working with one of the big name researchers on this at UNC, I agree with @Chuckman of April 24th to May 4th for our peak. The peak in NC is predicted to occur later than the nation as a whole.


The problem is that it's an exponential growth. Exponential functions aren't something people are used to thinking in terms of. They start out, and remain, really slow for a long period of time and then suddenly take off like mad.

I have used the following analogy in a few threads, but it really does illustrate the principle. If you have a pond with a lily pad and the pad(s) double each day and it takes 48 days to completely cover the pond, how many days to cover half of it? I asked my dad this question yesterday and he said 24, which is incorrect. The correct answer is 47 days. In fact, if you go back one week from being fully covered you will have less than 1% of the pond covered. It's a 2^(x) function - and in 7 days 2^7 is 128 meaning you have 1/128th the number as of a week prior. Likewise with a pond where the lily pads double every day at day 48 you have 2.81x10^14 (think of it as 281,475 x 1 billion), which is a lot of lily pads, but back at day 10 you only have 1028 lily pads.

In terms of the corona virus, everything we can do to reduce the number of others that each person infects is like reducing the 2 in the 2^x lily pad problem. Lets say for example we reduce it to 1.5 If we did that, at 48 days we would have 283,387,333 lilypads or in rough number one-one-millionth of the number of lily pads. By reducing the spread each infected person contributes, even a little bit, the net result is a dramatic decrease.

Being an exponential function, any reaction at the start is going to seem like a supreme over reaction. At the end it is going to seem like an absurd under reaction.

Analogy reminds me of the old "Would you rather have 1 million dollars, or I give you one penny today and double it every day for a month.
 
I understand this statement 100%. No grey area. I've heard it before and it made sense then too.

But the back end of my mind hears "we're not really trying to stop you from catching it, we're just trying to delay you catching it", as if there's no escape from this thing.

Iā€™ve been telling my wife for weeks that we re all going to get it, itā€™s just a matter of when and how our bodies react. While I hope I am wrong, and I havenā€™t stayed in a Holiday Inn recently I still have the same opinion. Be healthy and well rested. Eat well, exercise and get out in the sun. Thatā€™s all I got.
 
Iā€™ve been telling my wife for weeks that we re all going to get it, itā€™s just a matter of when and how our bodies react. While I hope I am wrong, and I havenā€™t stayed in a Holiday Inn recently I still have the same opinion. Be healthy and well rested. Eat well, exercise and get out in the sun. Thatā€™s all I got.

Could be, but the later you get it, the better the diagnostics will be and the more treatment options will be known. You want to personally avoid getting it during the peak when facilities are overloaded and understaffed.
 
Current cases in Cumberland = 48 as of last night at 1800.

Numbers are picking up and some infected folks aren't taking this shit seriously.
 
"we're not really trying to stop you from catching it, we're just trying to delay you catching it", as if there's no escape from this thing.
I think you're beginning to catch on. This new thing for which none of us has any immunity whatsoever is transmitted in the same way as the flu or a cold. Do you know anyone who has never had a cold?
 
Whenever those dates get here and the numbers arenā€™t Ben close to predictions, then theyā€™ll start puking out new dates the keep people scared.

The IMHE has already cut their predictions in half sooooo.....
https://www.citizenfreepress.com/br...irx-and-fauci-just-cut-their-numbers-by-half/

Those numbers we were expecting. The more social distancing, quarantining, stay-at-home, etc., the lower those numbers will be.

We've said for the past 3 weeks that by 4/3 we'd have better data, now we do, and are revising the numbers.
 
My cousin up in Long Island says it pretty bad up there. She has 4 family members that work for the hospital and 2 of them got it. And they are not really showing the number of deaths that are going on.
 
So I heard through the conspiracy vine that people who died of whatever were being classified as having died from corona if they tested positive even if it were something like suicide.
 
So I heard through the conspiracy vine that people who died of whatever were being classified as having died from corona if they tested positive even if it were something like suicide.

I would like to see true numbers of people who actually died from it compared to the ones with an underlying symptom.
 
Just read the Covid obit of the first person I knew. :(
 
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I haven't had one for over 25 years, never had the Flu and never had any childhood diseases either... And???
Thereā€™s a glimmer of hope then. I don't mind being wrong about this.
 
My cousin up in Long Island says it pretty bad up there. She has 4 family members that work for the hospital and 2 of them got it. And they are not really showing the number of deaths that are going on.

After taking to a buddy of mine in FDNY, it may be worse than we are being told. And as someone that despises the media, I don't say that lightly. Here is the cliffs notes and random things from a fireman.

4X the number of heart attack calls coming in a week ago and going up. Most likely related to Covid.
A lot of their calls are not even making it to the hospitals, which is partly why some of the field hospitals are not filling up.
Makeshift morgues at hospitals are full or filling up.
4 hour waits for groceries
Firemen are getting worried, not much seems to worry those guys.
 
From the source of a coworkers wife who is working with one of the big name researchers on this at UNC, I agree with @Chuckman of April 24th to May 4th for our peak. The peak in NC is predicted to occur later than the nation as a whole.


The problem is that it's an exponential growth. Exponential functions aren't something people are used to thinking in terms of. They start out, and remain, really slow for a long period of time and then suddenly take off like mad.

I have used the following analogy in a few threads, but it really does illustrate the principle. If you have a pond with a lily pad and the pad(s) double each day and it takes 48 days to completely cover the pond, how many days to cover half of it? I asked my dad this question yesterday and he said 24, which is incorrect. The correct answer is 47 days. In fact, if you go back one week from being fully covered you will have less than 1% of the pond covered. It's a 2^(x) function - and in 7 days 2^7 is 128 meaning you have 1/128th the number as of a week prior. Likewise with a pond where the lily pads double every day at day 48 you have 2.81x10^14 (think of it as 281,475 x 1 billion), which is a lot of lily pads, but back at day 10 you only have 1028 lily pads.

In terms of the corona virus, everything we can do to reduce the number of others that each person infects is like reducing the 2 in the 2^x lily pad problem. Lets say for example we reduce it to 1.5 If we did that, at 48 days we would have 283,387,333 lilypads or in rough number one-one-millionth of the number of lily pads. By reducing the spread each infected person contributes, even a little bit, the net result is a dramatic decrease.

Being an exponential function, any reaction at the start is going to seem like a supreme over reaction. At the end it is going to seem like an absurd under reaction.
That's for sure how MSM has been spinning things from the get-go.
 
Below are the IHME death projections (daily peak) for NC from 4/1 and 4/5.
4/1
NC-IHME_COVID_0401.jpg
4/5
NC-IHME_COVID_0405.jpg
 
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After taking to a buddy of mine in FDNY, it may be worse than we are being told. And as someone that despises the media, I don't say that lightly. Here is the cliffs notes and random things from a fireman.

4X the number of heart attack calls coming in a week ago and going up. Most likely related to Covid.
A lot of their calls are not even making it to the hospitals, which is partly why some of the field hospitals are not filling up.
Makeshift morgues at hospitals are full or filling up.
4 hour waits for groceries
Firemen are getting worried, not much seems to worry those guys.

my cousin made comments about makeshift morgues and using tractor trailers with coolers on them. She keeps referring to it as a war zone.
 
my cousin made comments about makeshift morgues and using tractor trailers with coolers on them. She keeps referring to it as a war zone.

They pulled refer trailers in to NY a week or two ago. Unfortunately it sounds like they are putting them to use.


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That's for sure how MSM has been spinning things from the get-go.
Interesting, as I haven't watched any MSM in quite a while. I was quoting Aesop from Raconteur Report who supposedly works in a hospital (I believe) in somewhere in California.

Another expression I like is "Case case case, cluster cluster, Boom" that Chris Martenson used early on. NY is definitely in the BOOM stage.
 
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I know.... Another Kung Flu thread... :rolleyes:

But seriously, I've been hearing for a month now that in the next week or two it's going to explode then level off. Every week it's two weeks out...

When is that two weeks going to arrive?


I keep hearing them nail down a time frame for the virus to "peak"...

Yeah, there's steps we can all take to slow the spread, but ultimately, the virus gets to decide that.
 
Interesting, as I haven't watched any MSM in quite a while. I was quoting Aesop from Raconteur Report who supposedly works in a hospital (I believe) in somewhere in California.

Another expression I like is "Case case case, cluster cluster, Boom" that Chris Martenson used early on. NY is definitely in the BOOM stage.
When the China travel ban went into effect, that was "terrible" and "racist" and "overreaching." Now, there is griping about not having gone far enough into a lockdown, and not having enough PPE and ventilators (even though that is NOT the Fed's responsibility), etc., etc.

(ETA: the NATIONAL stockpile is the Feds' responsibility, but STATE levels are NOT. See, e.g., NYC)
 
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I don't know of any deaths personally.
Realtor for our last home purchase had 4 online funeral drivers in one day for extended family in NJ.
But NJ is a state with a governor more concerned with blessing Trump than the people of the state.
My SIL got the drug cocktail as soon as she was admitted with 60%PSO2.
She was released 4 days later.
But not all hospitals are allowing the cocktail even when prescribed by an attending.

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Did she get the drug cocktail from the same place that was supposed to be cremating all bodies? lol
 
I haven't had one for over 25 years, never had the Flu and never had any childhood diseases either... And???

My ol lady has never had the flu either... She's had a few colds but not many. I seem to get it every couple of years...
 
My ol lady has never had the flu either... She's had a few colds but not many. I seem to get it every couple of years...

Staying healthy, diet of vegetables and fruit, is a good indicator in the long run. My dad lived to his mid 90s, no smoking or drinking, did not care for steak or beef dishes, lots of veggies. Never over 155 lbs. He died of heart failure, had a low heart beat near the end.
 
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I haven't had one for over 25 years, never had the Flu and never had any childhood diseases either... And???
That just proves that not even a virus or bacterial strain wants to hang out with you for very long. :p
 
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