So you want to reopen your business...

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You just want to get another pic don'tcha.;)
Ya little freak.
 
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Come on guys. @mj1angier is one of us, and has been a member of this community for a long time. Some of what has been said, e.g. supporting govt, mandates is putting words in his mouth. He doesn’t deserve to be piled on like this. As a veterinarian his perspective is going to be unique and educated. I, for one, am inclined to think thst his cautionary position that we are not going back to like as it was in January anytime soon is a real possibility.
 
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Come on guys. @mj1angier is one of us, and has been a member of this community for a long time. Some of what has been said, e.g. supporting govt, mandates is putting words in his mouth. He doesn’t deserve to be piled on like this. As a veterinarian his perspective is going to be unique and educated. I, for one, am inclined to think thst his cautionary position that we are not going back to like as it was in January anytime soon is a real possibility.
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And the absolute vast majority of us agree that things aren’t going back to how they were in January. But we also understand that we have to get the gears of the economy turning again or we will face far larger issues than a virus. There is a middle path that includes things like enhanced hygiene and distancing WHILE allowing business to reopen >if they so choose<.


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B00ger said:
And the absolute vast majority of us agree that things aren’t going back to how they were in January. But we also understand that we have to get the gears of the economy turning again or we will face far larger issues than a virus. There is a middle path that includes things like enhanced hygiene and distancing WHILE allowing business to reopen >if they so choose.
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You’re right, and I agree. Reading his posts, though, I think that he’s getting a stronger (negative) reaction than is warranted. From what I can tell, he’s advocated getting business going while saying that how it’s conducted may have to change for a while. For example. He’s mentioned taking the animals in from the parking lot, disinfecting things, and minimizing person to person contact (think door knobs, etc). It seems to me that he’s trying to stay open and take precautions. It just seems to me like he’s getting a bit of misdirected hate mail based on what he hasn’t said.
 
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You’re right, and I agree. Reading his posts, though, I think that he’s getting a stronger (negative) reaction than is warranted. From what I can tell, he’s advocated getting business going while saying that how it’s conducted may have to change for a while. For example. He’s mentioned taking the animals in from the parking lot, disinfecting things, and minimizing person to person contact (think door knobs, etc). It seems to me that he’s trying to stay open and take precautions. It just seems to me like he’s getting a bit of misdirected hate mail based on what he hasn’t said.
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Then we are reading the room in totally different ways as far as this thread goes.


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Then we are reading the room in totally different ways as far as this thread goes.


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Entirely possible. Text misses something like 70-90 percent of communication.

Yes, he’s obviously passionate about the situation, he may have a different perspective or opinion, but I still think he’s on our side.
 
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Here is my question - if this is a virus that will infect all of us (which I believe), what good does prolonging it until flu season do? Hell, we've resisted it enough thus far that the damn hospitals are furloughing medical staff. And I get being scared. I'm scared for my wife and mother, both smokers, and even a little for me, just because I'm crap. I hate it for all the folks in long term care facilities and the medical staff getting beat down on. But living in fear ain't no way to live.

But as somebody put it so eloquently in a different forum, you can't hide forever. Many who came before us faced far worse than this (as another posted so eloquent a quote in another forum as well), and short of bugging out entirely, you really aren't going to avoid infection for terribly long.
 
In times of tyranny (and make no mistake about it, government mandated closers of businesses and limiting the number of people who can gather in a location is straight out of the red coat hand book I don’t give a damn what the “reason” is) discussions usually become heated.

Before our revolution, people with dissenting views from the majority were run out of town, their business either seized by the loyalists or burned by the rebels.

The only real difference between then and now is at this point people aren’t starving in the streets. Yet.
 
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@mj1angier maybe this will help your perspective.

This is powerful take time to read it .

Imagine you were born in 1900. On your 14th birthday, World War I starts, and ends on your 18th birthday. 22 million people perish in that war. Later in the year, a Spanish Flu epidemic hits the planet and runs until your 20th birthday. 50 million people die from it in those two years. Yes, 50 million. On your 29th birthday, the Great Depression begins. Unemployment hits 25%, the World GDP drops 27%. That runs until you are 33. The country nearly collapses along with the world economy. When you turn 39, World War II starts. You aren’t even over the hill yet. And don’t try to catch your breath. On your 41st birthday, the United States is fully pulled into WWII. Between your 39th and 45th birthday, 75 million people perish in the war. At 50, the Korean War starts. 5 million perish. At 55 the Vietnam War begins and doesn’t end for 20 years. 4 million people perish in that conflict. On your 62nd birthday you have the Cuban Missile Crisis, a tipping point in the Cold War. Life on our planet, as we know it, should have ended. Great leaders prevented that from happening. When you turn 75, the Vietnam War finally ends. Think of everyone on the planet born in 1900. How do you survive all of that? When you were a kid in 1985 and didn’t think your 85 year old grandparent understood how hard school was. And how mean that kid in your class was. Yet they survived through everything listed above. Perspective is an amazing art, refined as time goes on, and enlightening like you wouldn’t believe. Let’s try and keep things in perspective."

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My grandmother was born in 1900.I never thought about all she lived through in her life above her sorry first husband and being divorced with two kids in the late 20's and early 30's.She lived to 95 and never complained about much.
 
Was there contact tracing that points that the salon worker contracted the virus at the salon?
“It's not clear where the employee contracted the novel coronavirus, which causes the respiratory disease known as COVID-19.”

 
Barber shops opened in SC, I am going next Wednesday to get a buzz cut. Between now and Wednesday I will be at the range, trip to Walmart, chick fila, Round of golf, couple of trips to lowes, etc....so if I get cv19 I will be blaming the barber because you know SC opened their business too early.
 
I am far more frightened for the survivability of this nation as a result of democrat scheming than I am of any virus. We need to go back to complete normalcy because this virus is no more deadly than the flu and the numbers support that. Even though the numbers have been greatly exaggerated.
 
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