Moving to NC...from the Dictatorial Republic of Kanada!

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Greetings!

Going to try and make this as short as possible, apologies in advance :)

So we've been looking for a while one where/how to relocate ourselves and our business to the States, but the latest NZ style gun ban (based on a "mass shooting" that they have militantly been protecting any and all information about) has given us the real kick in the pants to get moving. I was sweet on Texas and Tenn, but my sister lives in Texas, and is "thrilled" that the state is turning blue (she's always been a leftist), so Texas is right out. My wife comes to NC for biotech conferences and just loves it, the places, the people, the weather, etc etc, so I started looking seriously at the state, and yeah, I gotta admit it looks pretty darned awesome.

So we have an immigration lawyer at HunterMaclean in Georgia, and while it's REALLY hard to get a green card right now, we can probably do it on an L1 visa. But as long as we can do all the correct paperwork, get signed with the IRS, and pass the entry exam with the US consulate, we're probably good to go.

So as for me, I was taught to shoot by my grandfather, who was a legit WWII drill Sargent. I've been shooting since I was about 6, have had guns literally my entire life (my "toy" gun was an old training hi point that gramps likely bought from the army, he was too straight laced to steal anything). We used to have spots we could go on our bikes and shoot, 22 long guns haning out of gunny sacks on our backs...nobody cared or called police. I've seen that attitude change over the years, with the media pushing a fear-fuelled agenda to disam those that allow themselves to be disarmed. I am currently serving my "2 year amnesty" for the crime of owning a legally licensed, purchased, registered sporting gun (or as they call it, an "assault style rifle". In fact, they're hitting me for about $4,000 worth of "registered" guns. We've got neighbors calling the snitch lines on people they don't like, screeching about how dangerous guns are, cheering this arbitrary disamnament, and I tell you, I'm done. Put it this way, imagine California suddenly took over, and brian seltzer was lord and ruler, and he was just splattering the country with all sorts of SJW nonsense...and people were cheering him on. THAT'S what it's like here. They have weed, drum circles, guys that wear twat knots and capri pants...yes there are a LOT of good solid people here, but they've all been driven out of the cities, and the cities have all the voting power. In fact, only 2 cities select the leader, Toronto and Quebec. These are the cities where they direct most "new Canadians" and they shower them with free money, free phones, free healthcare, everything they need, so long as they vote. It's insane but very effective for the left.

So we are looking to not only move out of the city, but out of this country. We are one "order in council" away from being a literal dictatorship. He used guns to set a precedent in bypassing parliament (imagine hillary won and just shut down the senate and house, and just banned guns). This is the second time in my life they have done this. I lost my AK and MP5 in '95 to a similar ban, and that's when they started registering ARs (swearing they weren't doing it to ban them...ha).

Why I joined here was to get a feel/taste for the environment. I plan to get a property with a bit of land, somewhere around Raleigh (we do need to be near the airport for work), and I want to set up a spot to shoot (right now I have to travel an hour to a gun range to even plink, and they are trying to enact sound bylaws that will outlaw gun ranges, they are really kicking us hard up here). So I'm looking for maybe advice on areas to look at/avoid, maybe realtors to contact, things to consider, etc etc. Any tips would be welcome.

Oh and I'd like to also add. When we get there, we won't be like the "new arrivals" to this country. We plan to adhere to the laws and customs of the land, proudly fly the stars and stripes (can we do that as foreigners?), etc etc. We're not looking to rock the boat, we want to embrace what you offer, and hopefully add to it. We'll be setting up an office and looking to expand the business (biotech), add to the coffers of the IRS, etc etc. We are not snotty ungrateful people (in fact, I think we're incredibly nice). My daughter is hoping to get into Duke for her masters if we can get things together (and she keeps her marks over 90), she's thrilled at the prospect (getting a masters from a Canadian University is not looked upon as well in the medical circles as getting one from American ones).

So again, sorry for this long drawn out intro, but it wasn't as easy as signing up to a forum up here (I'm on the canadiangunnutz forum). If anyone has tips please feel free to chime in or PM. We're putting a fair bit of money and effort into the move, it's not something we're taking lightly. I'm not even sure if I can own a gun down there, I'm that clueless. I have a sizable collection here, and not sure how mach/any I can transfer down there, it's really angering what they're doing to us (I've got a couple of rifles I've had a LONG time, and I think you guys know how you can get sentimental about an inanimate object that's been with you on your journey in life). I'm actually contributing a fair bit to the legal battles that have just started here, I don't want to seem like I'm just running from a fight, but there's a time when you see where a country is headed, and have to pick up and head for the last truly free country in the entire world.
 
Welcome to CFF enjoy the forum
 
First off, Welcome to America! You sound like the kind of folks that we're happy to have move to the states and become an American. Hope the immigration and move go well.

North Carolina is an interesting place. Lots of good rural folks, lots of farming, hunting and fishing, and we've got a lot of urban areas with high tech jobs too. Some of those urban areas do lean pretty far left, Chapel Hill and Asheville especially. There are a lot of good gun ranges within driving distance of Raleigh. I'm a member of DPRC in Haw River/Mebane, and there are several indoor and outdoor ranges closer to Raleigh than that. We have no shortage of gun shops in the area.

I feel like NC is one of the better states concerning gun laws. We don't have any ammo or magazine restrictions, open carry is legal, and a CCW permits aren't too troublesome to get.

I'm not sure how gun laws here work with immigration status, but I have known several folks who immigrated here who now own firearms legally. I would assume that if you could legally buy a hunting license in the US, you should be able to bring firearms with you, but someone more educated on that topic will have to weigh in on it.
 
Welcome to America from upstate SC. With your attitude you'll fit right in. It already sounds like you're a better Americans than many Americans.

Just one word of caution though. Eventually you run out of room to run and have to turn around, stand your ground and confront your adversaries.

You'll have friends at your side here.
 
If you are a permanent resident then you are treated like a citizen and can get a concealed handgun permit and own hand guns and long guns. If you are on any non-immigrant type of visa you are required to show that you are purchasing the firearms for legal hunting purposes.

NC is slowly going left as well. Unfortunately the large metro areas are very liberal and starting to overwhelm the more rural areas in control. Also for pistols NC is far from free. You have to get either a concealed handgun permit or a pistol purchase permit issued by your local sheriff.

As far as shooting on private property good luck finding anything in the RTP area that has enough space and laws permit. TO have your own range probably will need to get away from the metro areas into a more rural area.

https://www.atf.gov/qa-category/nonimmigrant-aliens
An alien admitted to the United States under a nonimmigrant visa is prohibited from shipping, transporting, receiving, or possessing a firearm or ammunition unless the alien falls within one of the exceptions provided in 18 U.S.C. 922(y)(2), such as: a valid hunting license or permit, admitted for lawful hunting or sporting purposes, certain official representatives of a foreign government, or a foreign law enforcement officer of a friendly foreign government entering the United States on official law enforcement business.
 
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Greetings!

Going to try and make this as short as possible, apologies in advance :)

So we've been looking for a while one where/how to relocate ourselves and our business to the States, but the latest NZ style gun ban (based on a "mass shooting" that they have militantly been protecting any and all information about) has given us the real kick in the pants to get moving. I was sweet on Texas and Tenn, but my sister lives in Texas, and is "thrilled" that the state is turning blue (she's always been a leftist), so Texas is right out. My wife comes to NC for biotech conferences and just loves it, the places, the people, the weather, etc etc, so I started looking seriously at the state, and yeah, I gotta admit it looks pretty darned awesome.

So we have an immigration lawyer at HunterMaclean in Georgia, and while it's REALLY hard to get a green card right now, we can probably do it on an L1 visa. But as long as we can do all the correct paperwork, get signed with the IRS, and pass the entry exam with the US consulate, we're probably good to go.

So as for me, I was taught to shoot by my grandfather, who was a legit WWII drill Sargent. I've been shooting since I was about 6, have had guns literally my entire life (my "toy" gun was an old training hi point that gramps likely bought from the army, he was too straight laced to steal anything). We used to have spots we could go on our bikes and shoot, 22 long guns haning out of gunny sacks on our backs...nobody cared or called police. I've seen that attitude change over the years, with the media pushing a fear-fuelled agenda to disam those that allow themselves to be disarmed. I am currently serving my "2 year amnesty" for the crime of owning a legally licensed, purchased, registered sporting gun (or as they call it, an "assault style rifle". In fact, they're hitting me for about $4,000 worth of "registered" guns. We've got neighbors calling the snitch lines on people they don't like, screeching about how dangerous guns are, cheering this arbitrary disamnament, and I tell you, I'm done. Put it this way, imagine California suddenly took over, and brian seltzer was lord and ruler, and he was just splattering the country with all sorts of SJW nonsense...and people were cheering him on. THAT'S what it's like here. They have weed, drum circles, guys that wear twat knots and capri pants...yes there are a LOT of good solid people here, but they've all been driven out of the cities, and the cities have all the voting power. In fact, only 2 cities select the leader, Toronto and Quebec. These are the cities where they direct most "new Canadians" and they shower them with free money, free phones, free healthcare, everything they need, so long as they vote. It's insane but very effective for the left.

So we are looking to not only move out of the city, but out of this country. We are one "order in council" away from being a literal dictatorship. He used guns to set a precedent in bypassing parliament (imagine hillary won and just shut down the senate and house, and just banned guns). This is the second time in my life they have done this. I lost my AK and MP5 in '95 to a similar ban, and that's when they started registering ARs (swearing they weren't doing it to ban them...ha).

Why I joined here was to get a feel/taste for the environment. I plan to get a property with a bit of land, somewhere around Raleigh (we do need to be near the airport for work), and I want to set up a spot to shoot (right now I have to travel an hour to a gun range to even plink, and they are trying to enact sound bylaws that will outlaw gun ranges, they are really kicking us hard up here). So I'm looking for maybe advice on areas to look at/avoid, maybe realtors to contact, things to consider, etc etc. Any tips would be welcome.

Oh and I'd like to also add. When we get there, we won't be like the "new arrivals" to this country. We plan to adhere to the laws and customs of the land, proudly fly the stars and stripes (can we do that as foreigners?), etc etc. We're not looking to rock the boat, we want to embrace what you offer, and hopefully add to it. We'll be setting up an office and looking to expand the business (biotech), add to the coffers of the IRS, etc etc. We are not snotty ungrateful people (in fact, I think we're incredibly nice). My daughter is hoping to get into Duke for her masters if we can get things together (and she keeps her marks over 90), she's thrilled at the prospect (getting a masters from a Canadian University is not looked upon as well in the medical circles as getting one from American ones).

So again, sorry for this long drawn out intro, but it wasn't as easy as signing up to a forum up here (I'm on the canadiangunnutz forum). If anyone has tips please feel free to chime in or PM. We're putting a fair bit of money and effort into the move, it's not something we're taking lightly. I'm not even sure if I can own a gun down there, I'm that clueless. I have a sizable collection here, and not sure how mach/any I can transfer down there, it's really angering what they're doing to us (I've got a couple of rifles I've had a LONG time, and I think you guys know how you can get sentimental about an inanimate object that's been with you on your journey in life). I'm actually contributing a fair bit to the legal battles that have just started here, I don't want to seem like I'm just running from a fight, but there's a time when you see where a country is headed, and have to pick up and head for the last truly free country in the entire world.


To long... did not read.

Scanned for: "Bacon", "Meringue" and "BBQ"
did not find...

First post failed bigly.
 
I saw Hellman's though!

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https://www.atf.gov/qa-category/nonimmigrant-aliens
An alien admitted to the United States under a nonimmigrant visa is prohibited from shipping, transporting, receiving, or possessing a firearm or ammunition unless the alien falls within one of the exceptions provided in 18 U.S.C. 922(y)(2), such as: a valid hunting license or permit, admitted for lawful hunting or sporting purposes, certain official representatives of a foreign government, or a foreign law enforcement officer of a friendly foreign government entering the United States on official law enforcement business.

This being the case, if your initial visa is going to be non-immigrant, even if you don't hunt if it's easy to get a Canadian hunting license and you don't already have one, get it. Possession of a previous hunting license from any US State or Canadian province grandfathers you in to get a US hunting license without the Hunter Safety course.
 
Welcome! Thankfully NC is still mostly free... free enough that you can own any size magazine, machine guns and suppressors, any type of gun you want, any type of ammo, and you can open or concealed carry (certain gov hoops may apply).
 
Didn't notice anything about your choice of mayonnaise or tea. What mayonnaise do you use? Do you like your tea sweet or unsweet?
 
This being the case, if your initial visa is going to be non-immigrant, even if you don't hunt if it's easy to get a Canadian hunting license and you don't already have one, get it. Possession of a previous hunting license from any US State or Canadian province grandfathers you in to get a US hunting license without the Hunter Safety course.


Not sure that applies to NC. I think they now require you to have a hunter safety course even if you had a license from somewhere else. https://www.ncwildlife.org/Licensin...ing-Licenses/Hunter-Safety-Course-Requirement
 
Raliegh! Pretty sure that city is just a southern canadian extension by now.

Welcome to the forum, glad to have ya and good luck getting out quickly.
 
@High Caliber
What part of Canada are you from (I must have missed it)?
Got a lady-friend in Toronto, she's from Kirkland ON originally.

What area of NC are you looking at moving to?
 
Welcome, Glad your joining us and for the right reasons.
Just vote properly, although it sounds like you know better than most what effect voting has on your rights. fly the stars and strips, Good luck.
I have to agree that Pittsboro area in Chatham Co, is likely a good place to start. In fact there used to be a large group of Canadians that lived/worked there. I'm not sure if they are still there or not. They owned an IT, web design co.
 
Welcome! Not sure how importing the guns works, but as a US citizen from a bad state I made it a point to buy a house and move my stuff out of the bad state and into the new house before I even sold the old house. If you can swing it legally, get your toys out of Canuckistan a.s.a.p.
 
Why I joined here was to get a feel/taste for the environment. I plan to get a property with a bit of land, somewhere around Raleigh (we do need to be near the airport for work), and I want to set up a spot to shoot (right now I have to travel an hour to a gun range to even plink, and they are trying to enact sound bylaws that will outlaw gun ranges, they are really kicking us hard up here). So I'm looking for maybe advice on areas to look at/avoid, maybe realtors to contact, things to consider, etc etc. Any tips would be welcome.
Do you need to be near the Raleigh airport? Or just a big airport?

Wasn’t sure if you were trying to be near Raleigh for the conferences, or something else.
 
Welcome!

You'll soon find out that Wake County is one of the liberal counties of the state.
 
Also, we did wind up having another Canadian recently move down here from Alberta (I think)? Eva Shockey relocated to this area with her former hockey playing husband.
 
Chatham county is going blue fast. You may want to look in Lee county (Sanford), they are still red.

Since you're in biotech, checkout the NC biotech center in RTP. They can help you with moving your business.
 
Wow, thanks for the welcome!! I actually wrote the first post, then hit the gun range for the day (only recently opened up...typical chinese flu reasons)

I will answer some of the posts individually, and yes I know I overstayed my welcome already with that post...but I did apologize in advance!!! I won't answer all, I don't want to jam the thread up too much, but know the welcome was appreciated.

....is love of mayonnaise a prerequisite for NC living? I'm actually more of a miracle whip guy myself, or if on a burger, I don't want much more than cheese extra bacon and ketchup (catsup? I have to get the dialect right). I have been known to have a meringue too, but I don't go out of my way. To be honest, I just like steak potatoes whiskey and beer. I prefer Guinness, and am partial to Macallums. In fact, except for some (most) of the weird craft beers, I don't think I've met a beer I didn't get along with. I will say that if bacon was banned there, we wouldn't be moving lol. I'm quite surprised they haven't banned cholesterol-foods here. I think they would be happy if we all just ate tofu (with extra soy).
 
Welcome! As stated above, sounds like you’ll be a better American than most Americans!!! Wish you and your family good luck!

What does this mean...”they're hitting me for about $4,000 worth of "registered" guns”?

And quit apologizing to everyone on your post...most of us have diarrhea of the keyboard from time to time as well! :D
 
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