Moving to NC...from the Dictatorial Republic of Kanada!

Sorry to tell you but I have lifted (stolen) your pics. I love me some GSD.
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SSgt75 said:
... and that for the last 100 years there is still the argument of which is better - Eastern Style or Western style NC Barbeque. I think there is a long thread already here about that too.
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Okay, I'll just say it - any kind of sauce that gets most of its flavor from vinegar instead of tomato, chili, spice etc is straight up disgusting.
Not sure how that works into this debate, but that's just a fact.
 
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Actually, southern Orange County is Blue due to the university. Get north of I-40/I-85 and all the votes are Red. North and west of Hillsborough still has lots of rural acreage. But Hillsborough itself has become more liberal with all the authors, artists, musicians, etc moving there. It's still a historic small town downtown, but it's expanding outward in more subdivisions for people trying to get out of Raleigh and Chapel Hill. The great thing about the Orange/Alamance area is the easy access to I-40 east and west and I-85 north and south. 20-30 minutes to RDU/RTP on a good day. About 3 hrs to the beach or to the mountains. There's at least 6 or 10 members of the Durham Pistol and Rifle Club on this forum and I'm sure you'll get an invite to go shoot as soon as you move.

Your intro was one of the best I've ever seen on here too! Welcome to the finest gun forum on the web. We'll get you fine-tuned to all the proper Southern things you need to know after you have time to sit down and enjoy some sweet tea and hushpuppies. You'll also find out that the War of Northern Aggression is still discussed seriously around here (Cornwallis slept in the Colonial Inn in Hillsborough during the War of Independence from Britain) and that for the last 100 years there is still the argument of which is better - Eastern Style or Western style NC Barbeque. I think there is a long thread already here about that too.
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Well as a crack smokin Canadian I'm happy I'm at least a wee bit welcome!
I'm really looking forward to meeting folks, and am still in awe of the response.

...you guys aren't still sore aboot that whole "burning down the white house" thing are you?

(universities unfortunately tend to be the center of most of the blue-wave cancer we're seeing today).
 
DrScaryGuy said:
In addition to giving up "oot" and "aboot", you've already been pegged as somebody who apologizes too much. Once we hear your voice, and we pick up that you say "surry" instead of "sorry" it will be a dead giveaway.

btw, if you've got some rifles you're thinking of bringing, be SURE to check barrel lengths. As I understand it, some of your common guns up there would count as regulated "short barrel rifles" down here. 16" barrel, with 26" overall length with stocks unfolded and extended is the minimum here. shotguns also require 26", but their barrels have to be 18" or longer.
There are sometimes ways to get longer barrels and get things off the regulated list, so that may be something worth looking out for.

And yeah, I understand your feelings about being in cities. I grew up in the burbs 10 miles north of detroit, lived 1 mile outside city limits while working in the city for the last decade or so (a large portion of the detroit workforce is windsorites with nexus cards), and now I have 2 tiny acres sitting up against somebody else's 40+ acres of wilderness. onward and upward until i can afford my own wildlife preserve!
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Sorry aboot all the apologizing, oh wait........dammit. Truth be told though, I've actually apologized to someone that walked into me before. You just can't get it out of your system. I was raised to say please and thank you, hold doors for people, help someone with their groceries, etc etc. That mentality is getting seriously watered down up here, so many cultures that really don't have any consideration of others, means that once you've held a door for someone a couple of times, someone that simply walks in as if you are a servant, well you start thinking twice about doing it, and well I don't want to become someone that isn't nice and polite. Be nice to people I figure, why not it doesn't take a lot of extra effort. Hence the urge to find "like minded people".

Very likely I'll end up leaving a lot of what I have here, here (gun wise). There's a few sentimental ones that I won't give up, but most I can simply replace. I checked a list and I've owned 67 different guns in my day, and shot a lot more, so I may not "need" some of the ones I have now. I have a benelli M2, but I'd rather have an M4, etc. I really want a spas-12 even though I know they're kind of crappy shottys (specially compared to an M4), but the fact they banned them here merely because they were in the Terminator really grinds me the wrong way. I've started a list of the new precious' I need lol. We have a northern outlet of IRUNGUNS which can likely transfer things down south, but not sure. I have a particular ACR that I wouldn't want to be without, I put a custom 1:7 twist stainless match barrel on it, and I tell you, there's not a finer varmint gun out there. I also have a gun that was my grandfather's that I won't lose to the furnace. I've got a few norincos too, and those aren't allowed (no loss). That said I'm not even going to look into the forsale threads until I can get square with the regulations. I'm a follow-the-law kind of guy, and rules are rules :)
 
DrScaryGuy said:
Okay, I'll just say it - any kind of sauce that gets most of its flavor from vinegar instead of tomato, chili, spice etc is straight up disgusting.
Not sure how that works into this debate, but that's just a fact.
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Meringue or cool whip?
 
Grits said:
Sorry to tell you but I have lifted (stolen) your pics. I love me some GSD.
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I don't really know how anyone could not love these guys. Oh sure I love a lab or a retriever, but get a smart GSD, and you never go back. I have always wanted a husky, but we've had small kids around forever, and Huskies, while smart, really don't obey when they don't see why they should, and sometimes accidentally rip up cats and teacup dogs (and of course there's a bunch of those around here). We back onto a big park attached to an elementary school, so I can't risk a dog that might think a kid looks delicious. That said, are there predators there that can take on an 80lb dog? We have some black bears and mountain cats here, but they're usually picked up immediately so aren't a concern. We have some coyotes that mixed with wolves, but nothing big enough to take on a full sized GSD.
 
Oh, one thing I really should ask...how are the winters down there?!?! I can deal with cool-and-wet, but man I'm tired of freezing-with-snow. I get 2-4 months of decent weather, on a good year. We're locked inside for probably 8 months of the year (where is this global warming they kept promising us).

Oh and what about poisonous snakes? I'd worry more for the dogs than myself, I can wear sensible boots if biting critters are a concern. Also, how bad are the mosquitos?
 
High Caliber said:
Oh, one thing I really should ask...how are the winters down there?!?! I can deal with cool-and-wet, but man I'm tired of freezing-with-snow. I get 2-4 months of decent weather, on a good year. We're locked inside for probably 8 months of the year (where is this global warming they kept promising us).

Oh and what about poisonous snakes? I'd worry more for the dogs than myself, I can wear sensible boots if biting critters are a concern. Also, how bad are the mosquitos?
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Weather will depend on where. We have an ocean on one end, and the highest point in the US east of the Mississippi River on the other.

We donā€™t have poisonous snakes. Not a concern.

What you need to be worried about are the venomous snakes. :p
 
BigWaylon said:
Weather will depend on where. We have an ocean on one end, and the highest point in the US east of the Mississippi River on the other.

We donā€™t have poisonous snakes. Not a concern.

What you need to be worried about are the venomous snakes. :p
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Okay okay, I asked for that one. I actually LOL'd at that.

So do you have any non-poisonous snakes with non-round pupils? (we have a few massasauga rattlers here, but they're not common). I -think- we have some venomous water snakes, but not sure on that, as I am convinced that all lakes have bull sharks in them, there's simply no convincing me otherwise.
 
High Caliber said:
Okay okay, I asked for that one. I actually LOL'd at that.

So do you have any non-poisonous snakes with non-round pupils? (we have a few massasauga rattlers here, but they're not common). I -think- we have some venomous water snakes, but not sure on that, as I am convinced that all lakes have bull sharks in them, there's simply no convincing me otherwise.
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Copperheads
Cottonmouths (water moccasins)
Coral snakes
3 types of rattlers

Thatā€™s the official count (6) of venomous snakes in NC.

Copperheads are the most common.
 
Copperhead bites are rarely fatal to dogs & coral snakes are both rare as hen teeth & not terribly aggressive. Never seen a rattler here & the areas you're talking about likely won't have cottonmouths.

You'll love the winters here. We usually get snow 2 or 3 times a year & then not much & gone in a few days. 6" of snow gets folks excited. Last winter was unusually mild & we only got snow once. 60*F (or warmer) & sunny days are not uncommon throughout the winter.
 
Crazy Carl said:
Copperhead bites are rarely fatal to dogs & coral snakes are both rare as hen teeth & not terribly aggressive. Never seen a rattler here & the areas you're talking about likely won't have cottonmouths.

You'll love the winters here. We usually get snow 2 or 3 times a year & then not much & gone in a few days. 6" of snow gets folks excited. Last winter was unusually mild & we only got snow once. 60*F (or warmer) & sunny days are not uncommon throughout the winter.
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Okay that's excellent! I'm doing a lot of research on the pests and risks. We have most of the things you guys have, well unless you really have gators, we don't see a lot of those up here in the frozen ponds. I'll be curious to see a fireant colony, my sister complains about fire ants and mosquitoes in texas, but she has a teeny dog, so it can't be too much of a worry. I don't think shepherds would just lie around if fireants went at em. This is excellent help, thanks for this, I know I'm asking a lot of questions.

What's funny is that right now, almost June, it's 60 deg, and will be for the next 3 days. We'll get a couple of days of 90s in july/august but that's about it. Heh, if I leave the all season readials on my F-150 I might be the only person who can drive during your "snowstorms". Well me and the guy from Alberta, they get more snow than we do most years...



So y'all got BBQ down there do you?
also...do I have to say Y'all a lot?
 
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So y'all got BBQ down there do you?
also...do I have to say Y'all a lot?
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Yā€™all, all yā€™all, and youā€™uns are required.

The thing to know about BBQ around here is itā€™s a noun.
 
High Caliber said:
Okay that's excellent! I'm doing a lot of research on the pests and risks. We have most of the things you guys have, well unless you really have gators, we don't see a lot of those up here in the frozen ponds. I'll be curious to see a fireant colony, my sister complains about fire ants and mosquitoes in texas, but she has a teeny dog, so it can't be too much of a worry. I don't think shepherds would just lie around if fireants went at em. This is excellent help, thanks for this, I know I'm asking a lot of questions.

What's funny is that right now, almost June, it's 60 deg, and will be for the next 3 days. We'll get a couple of days of 90s in july/august but that's about it. Heh, if I leave the all season readials on my F-150 I might be the only person who can drive during your "snowstorms". Well me and the guy from Alberta, they get more snow than we do most years...



So y'all got BBQ down there do you?
also...do I have to say Y'all a lot?
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All y'all is the plural. Y'all's is the singular possessive & all y'all's the plural possessive.
 
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All y'all is the plural. Y'all's is the singular possessive & all y'all's the plural possessive.
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lol, the last one is the tricky one.

All's y'all's kids been up in the hay barn again ain't they? Y'all's gotta get e grip on them young 'uns, y'hear?

I've just gotta get a grip on the lingo :)

Now here's a real question...is it possible to still find any legit Popcorn Sutton shine still around? Man I've watched that documentary 3 times and man I'd love to try some of that (legalities permitted of course) from a true master. Well, unless he was plumb crazy from years of drinking moonshine, and the stuff actually tasted like swamp gas in a jar...
 
Welcome, High Caliber!
I have to say that reading all your posts I would not guess that you were from north of the border!
Your thoughts, feelings and views seem 100% real American! I have no doubt that you will find what you are looking for with the help from the best group of guys and gals you will ever find (here on the CFF if you were wondering). You've fit right in from your very first post and you will surely find more friends then you ever thought imaginable. I have enjoyed this entire intro post. It was just a nice read. Welcome to NC!
 
High Caliber said:
lol, the last one is the tricky one.

All's y'all's kids been up in the hay barn again ain't they? Y'all's gotta get e grip on them young 'uns, y'hear?

I've just gotta get a grip on the lingo :)

Now here's a real question...is it possible to still find any legit Popcorn Sutton shine still around? Man I've watched that documentary 3 times and man I'd love to try some of that (legalities permitted of course) from a true master. Well, unless he was plumb crazy from years of drinking moonshine, and the stuff actually tasted like swamp gas in a jar...
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Yer gettin' it. :D

Real 'shine ain't got no tax stamp. There might could be folks hereabouts that could put you in touch with a proper mason jar. :cool: Won't be Mr. Sutton's, but it'll be better than any store bought.

Sounds like you & the missus found the perfect spot to escape to & I think y'all will fit in splendidly.
 
larryh1108 said:
Welcome, High Caliber!
I have to say that reading all your posts I would not guess that you were from north of the border!
Your thoughts, feelings and views seem 100% real American! I have no doubt that you will find what you are looking for with the help from the best group of guys and gals you will ever find (here on the CFF if you were wondering). You've fit right in from your very first post and you will surely find more friends then you ever thought imaginable. I have enjoyed this entire intro post. It was just a nice read. Welcome to NC!
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Thank you!

I do have to say though...I think TV has been lying to me all my life. I mean I'm reading the posts and there's proper spelling, grammar, good sentence structure...what gives?? I was promised Yahoos! The only thing I can figure out is maybe I've stumbled onto a nest of high functioning autistics. I tell you, Canadians are usually all smug about how 'telligent we are, but again, I think I've been lied to. :)
 
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High Caliber said:
Okay that's excellent! I'm doing a lot of research on the pests and risks. We have most of the things you guys have, well unless you really have gators, we don't see a lot of those up here in the frozen ponds. I'll be curious to see a fireant colony, my sister complains about fire ants and mosquitoes in texas, but she has a teeny dog, so it can't be too much of a worry. I don't think shepherds would just lie around if fireants went at em. This is excellent help, thanks for this, I know I'm asking a lot of questions.

What's funny is that right now, almost June, it's 60 deg, and will be for the next 3 days. We'll get a couple of days of 90s in july/august but that's about it. Heh, if I leave the all season readials on my F-150 I might be the only person who can drive during your "snowstorms". Well me and the guy from Alberta, they get more snow than we do most years...



So y'all got BBQ down there do you?
also...do I have to say Y'all a lot?
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Yeah, another thing you don't want to do when you come here is say, "Y'all don't know how to drive in the snow". It's mostly Yankees down here now and they all say that. They are usually the ones in the ditch when we do have snow because they think they know it all. It's funny how the same 6 inches of snow up north snarls their traffic the same as it does here.
 
High Caliber said:
Thank you!

I do have to say though...I think TV has been lying to me all my life. I mean I'm reading the posts and there's proper spelling, grammar, good sentence structure...what gives?? I was promised Yahoos! The only thing I can figure out is maybe I've stumbled onto a nest of high functioning autistics. I tell you, Canadians are usually all smug about how 'telligent we are, but again, I think I've been lied to. :)
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Yep, you were lied to. Just as myself with 50 yrs native to California.
There's some book smart, street smart and smart asses down here. :D
 
SPST said:
Yeah, another thing you don't want to do when you come here is say, "Y'all don't know how to drive in the snow". It's mostly Yankees down here now and they all say that. They are usually the ones in the ditch when we do have snow because they think they know it all. It's funny how the same 6 inches of snow up north snarls their traffic the same as it does here.
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Thing is, I've driven in snow with regular tires on, and I don't care who you are, you're going to end up in the ditch sooner or later like that, so unlikely I'd say anything. Well unless I see something with monster truck tires in the ditch...well then I might have a chuckle.
 
Mirac said:
Yep, you were lied to. Just as myself with 50 yrs native to California.
There's some book smart, street smart and smart asses down here. :D
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I think we may both have a similar backstory on how we end up here. Like I said there's lots of good people in Cali (we know quite a few), but unfortunately the state has a reputation. Canada has a LOT of good ole boys (and girls), but the vocal special interest groups seem to hold power. For example the big anti gun org up here only has ~2000 members at best, but they get an entire nation disarmed. Squeaky wheel gets the mayo!
 
bah humbug. i spent 23 years driving in michigan winters on "all season" tires. snow never put me in a ditch.
Stupid driving put me in a ditch a few times, but only once did it happen when there was snow going on.
 
DrScaryGuy said:
bah humbug. i spent 23 years driving in michigan winters on "all season" tires. snow never put me in a ditch.
Stupid driving put me in a ditch a few times, but only once did it happen when there was snow going on.
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Indeed, I don't remember the last time I put snows on the truck, they're always 'all seasons'. I'm talking about the regular road tires I've seen on my trips down south (or maybe they're just all seasons that have seen too many seasons!)

I've had more than my share of "hold my beer and watch this!" moments in my youth... wrote off 3 cars, and only one of those I can blame on inclement weather :)))
 
High Caliber said:
Thank you!

I do have to say though...I think TV has been lying to me all my life. I mean I'm reading the posts and there's proper spelling, grammar, good sentence structure...what gives?? I was promised Yahoos! The only thing I can figure out is maybe I've stumbled onto a nest of high functioning autistics. I tell you, Canadians are usually all smug about how 'telligent we are, but again, I think I've been lied to. :)
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We're gun people. of course we're smart and a little weird.
I went to a carbine course at MDFI. there were 2 cops, one kid about to go into the military, and about 20 engineers and scientists. i don't think anybody was surprised by those numbers.
 
DrScaryGuy said:
We're gun people. of course we're smart and a little weird.
I went to a carbine course at MDFI. there were 2 cops, one kid about to go into the military, and about 20 engineers and scientists. i don't think anybody was surprised by those numbers.
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I've never thought about that...that's actually a bit profound. I have to admit that as I think of the people that enjoy firearms, and you know what I mean, the guys and gals that really dig guns, the way they look, the machine work, the mechanics, Moses Browning's incredible masterpieces...they all are quite sharp individuals. I'm without a doubt one of the dullest knives in the drawer if you get my drift. I know a lot of guys that hunt, or that will shoot when in vegas or something, but no real interest in firearms, and they're some of the more brian stelters of the world, again if you get my drift.... very interesting.

Here's a pic of my bedroom wall sometime around T1.jpg late 70's. Even as a tyke I fell asleep looking at the lines and bits on the different models of guns. To this day I think the lines on the government 1911 are some of the sexiest things on this earth. People just don't get it, knowhatImean?
 
Except for up in the mountains, folks down here don't drive in the snow. At the first rumors of flurries, everybody heads to Wally World, wipes out the bread and milk shelves and goes home. We had about two inches here one Friday afternoon. It was completely melted within 24 hours. School had already been cancelled as soon as the forecast got fairly certain. Schools reopened on Wednesday.

As for knowing how to drive in snow, northerners do have an advantage but it is a perishable skill. Even when we have to drive in that crap six months out of the year, everyone seems to have to learn all over again with the first snowfall of the year. I grew up in Michigan but spent my adult life in New Hampshire.

One year the first snowfall was about 8-10 inches. I counted eight vehicles off the road on my way to work. Seven were 4x4 pickups and SUVs.

The first winter here, I would look at the wind chill map and see double digits below zero back home.

And go out on the porch with a flannel shirt.

A light polarfleece jacket is the heaviest coat I've needed since coming to SC. Anyone looking to buy a pair of snowshoes? I don't think I'll need to take them off the wall.

And don't overlook airports in Greenville SC and Asheville NC. Almost any destination has a layover. Both are easy to get in and out of and you can get fairly rural within less travel time. Asheville has a rep for being pretty liberal but it's a small blue dot in a sea of red. It's still a nice place to visit.
 
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Welcome and thanks for joining up with us here. I'm hoping you'll find this to be the very best internet hangout ever and please reach out to others to join up with us here also.

And thank you for posting inside this thread so all of us can extend a welcome and get to know you !

We're SO MUCH MORE than a firearms forum !
 
Howland said:
Except for up in the mountains, folks down here don't drive in the snow. At the first rumors of flurries, everybody heads to Wally World, wipes out the bread and milk shelves and goes home. We had about two inches here one Friday afternoon. It was completely melted within 24 hours. School had already been cancelled as soon as the forecast got fairly certain. Schools reopened on Wednesday.

As for knowing how to drive in snow, northerners do have an advantage but it is a perishable skill. Even when we have to drive in that crap six months out of the year, everyone seems to have to learn all over again with the first snowfall of the year.

One year the first snowfall was about 8-10 inches. I counted eight vehicles off the road on my way to work. Seven were 4x4 pickups and SUVs.
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You're absolutely right. I've been driving here 365 a year pretty much since '86, and you have to re-learn every first snowfall. I mean it takes less than an hour to get back up to speed, but imagine if you had never done it before. If I saw someone off the road I'd probably just stop to help, I'd be a dick to actually laugh and keep driving. :)
 
Brangus said:
Welcome and thanks for joining up with us here. I'm hoping you'll find this to be the very best internet hangout ever and please reach out to others to join up with us here also.

And thank you for posting inside this thread so all of us can extend a welcome and get to know you !

We're SO MUCH MORE than a firearms forum !
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Thank you and LOL. Your sig probably taught me more about the forum than I could have learned in a month (well it probably did, I'm sure I'll puzzle it out) ;)
 
High Caliber said:
If I saw someone off the road I'd probably just stop to help, I'd be a dick to actually laugh and keep driving. :)
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Except for the Bozo that just passed you doing sixty in the slush. It is frowned upon to laugh and a polite wave is still expected but we do not stop for them.
 
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I wouldn't worry about snow much in the areas you are looking at. Towns usually shut down, and a lot of this has to do with non existant (in these areas) clearing and salting. Also, the snow often melts quickly, usually as it's falling, then freezes into ice overnight. This is the reason for the next morning closures. 9/10 times the roads are completely dried out by early afternoon.
 
I'm not sure who suggested Duke's mayo, but I'm worried it may be a shocker.

I recommend starting with this and work your way up to Duke's. :D

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Just wanted to say again how much I appreciated the welcome and the help. It's a daunting move, and of course everyone here is all "ooohhhh how on earth could you move to the states, there's riots and hatred and blah blah blah". They just don't get it. They trust the police to protect them, because here we don't have property rights, we wouldn't be able to legally do a thing to stop a mob destroying anything we own here. Now I'm very pro police, don't get me wrong, BUT I trust myself and a rifle over a phone and a prayer. I would feel better out in the country of NC, than here in the suburbs of Canada. We've got protests and kneeling and all that crazy shit going on here...and all we had in Canada was the underground railroad...so I suppose they want me to apologize for that? Bleh. Pass. I'll apologize when I have done something worth apologizing for.

So while it may take a while to complete, and I may be quiet, I'm still reading and scanning the forum. The gun forum here is all doom and gloom since the illegal gun grab, so not much fun...
 
May I recommend that as soon as you get an NC address that you subscribe to "Our State" magazine? It's the State magazine with all kinds of great information in it about NC. I've lived here in NC for 73 years and I learn something new each month. It covers places to go, things to see and visit, NC history, and great little places to eat!!!!

I'd also suggest the same to any of our CFF members who are transplants to NC.
Disclaimer: I am in no way connected to this magazine. I just think it's a good read each month on NC.

You can also read it online.
https://www.ourstate.com/
 
So can I ask a question here?
I've been watching the progression of terrorists/BLM and antifa during the recent civil unrest, and while I can accept your police chief washing the feet of the BLM leaders (I don't understand it, but I can accept that they are progressives and think it's the thing to do), but the recent project veritas antifa expose shows "redneck revolt" and "John Brown Gun Club" and just wondering... that wouldn't have anything to do with this place would it? Honest question, I didn't know where else I would ask that. They're based in NC and I figure...it's not that big of a state. You guys aren't into communism (the irony being that antifa supposedly hates fascism but loves communism...good logic there). ??
 
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