So what you're saying is, political violence is the answer?
Sometimes 'violence of action' is a deterrence when the opposition is violent. Are you saying they're not?
Is it at that point? I don't think so but they are sure setting it up to be.
So what you're saying is, political violence is the answer?
How old are you to still be writing checks???Maybe, but us triangle folk can also write a check for that guy with the AR15 to get himself a damn sling....
You worry me son.looks like guy in second pic is so excited he got a boner.
How old are you to still be writing checks???
You worry me son.
Am I missing the part where the folks defending the statue showed up at these morons dwellings to force their beliefs on them?So what you're saying is, political violence is the answer?
The police should have stood down, the problem would have self corrected itself.
No one on here is willing to kill anyone over a statue.
***note to self... if you make a deal with bigfelipe, meet in a crowded, well lit area... and be carrying condition 0.Speak for your self... Plenty of statues I think are more valuable than the majority of people these days... Of course, I have been told I'm a borderline sociopath...
Are you like French or British. The French always surrender and the British gave up fighting for country after WW2.Well, you guys do you, I guess. I'm not willing to shoot someone over a statue dedicated to a cause my ancestors didn't even fight for. Or any statue for that matter.
Well, you guys do you, I guess. I'm not willing to shoot someone over a statue dedicated to a cause my ancestors didn't even fight for. Or any statue for that matter.
Well, you guys do you, I guess. I'm not willing to shoot someone over a statue dedicated to a cause my ancestors didn't even fight for. Or any statue for that matter.
This "Hi-Jacked" movement started in Minneapolis, meaning they have a head start on other areas of our country.
So what you're saying is, political violence is the answer?
What are you willing to shoot someone over?Well, you guys do you, I guess. I'm not willing to shoot someone over a statue dedicated to a cause my ancestors didn't even fight for. Or any statue for that matter.
It’s not about the statute, it’s not even what it represents on the surface. It’s the idea of how we will conduct ourselves as a society. As others have put it, it’s about control and power, the same as the non violent methods. They’ve made thr choice to go to physical force. Reason and force are the only two ways to influence others. You can reason all you want but if your opponent isn’t going to play that game you’re going to lose. Obviously the first response shouldn’t be shooting, but I am not going to get in a gist fight either. You want to go to physical force, expect me to play to win. Should we have gone into Afghanistan and thrown concrete milkshakes or shoot them.No, I wouldn't kill someone over an old statue. If you would, you shouldn't own firearms.
You can "but what about" all you want, claim slippery slope and ad hominem arguments, but it doesn't make it ok.
People have an idealized view of police and what they represent. This only holds as long as those they answer to uphold proper values. We are seeing the naked truth of who the cops answer to and it isn’t The People. Also, people can only bestow power to cops or anyone else that which they posses themselves. The People have every right to protect the property. Govts. are instituted to protect the rights of people, when they fail they need to be replaced, local, state, federal, international, galactic, it is all the same. When reason fails the choice is submit or use force. The nations founders exhausted the means of reason and turned to violence and it wasn’t an on off switch either, but ramped up. They didn’t become what they claimed to hate.My first response was entirely a question in response to phideux's post, which seemed to say the police should step aside so one group of protesters could seemingly shoot the other. If that's what he meant by that, then him and anyone who agrees with him is on their way to becoming whay they claim to hate.
There are those who are angry about perceived injustice. I’m not judging their perception, I’m not them and cannot see things from their perspective, only mine. And they have already judged my perspective.
Though I wasn’t present and no one was there to represent me, I was found guilty. Now they’re just arguing over my fate, each trying to out do the other in the level of intolerable consequences I must suffer and no small number of them that want me killed in the streets.
Oh, you didn’t realize you were also not in court that day? Don’t worry, our sentences will surely mirror one another.
Part of my sentence, apparently, is that my history is to be sanitized from my own country. But that is only the beginning. I am also not allowed to speak unless spoken to and only allowed to answer from a prepared list, not prepared by me. Any attempt to answer otherwise is mere further proof of my guilt.
Whoops, touched a sacred cow.
No, I wouldn't kill someone over an old statue. If you would, you shouldn't own firearms.
You can "but what about" all you want, claim slippery slope and ad hominem arguments, but it doesn't make it ok.
My first response was entirely a question in response to phideux's post, which seemed to say the police should step aside so one group of protesters could seemingly shoot the other. If that's what he meant by that, then him and anyone who agrees with him is on their way to becoming whay they claim to hate.
Good Lord guys, be better.
then him and anyone who agrees with him is on their way to becoming whay they claim to hate.
The nations founders exhausted the means of reason and turned to violence and it wasn’t an on off switch either, but ramped up. They didn’t become what they claimed to hate.
Whoops, touched a sacred cow.
No, I wouldn't kill someone over an old statue. If you would, you shouldn't own firearms.
No, I wouldn't kill someone over an old statue.
https://www.carolinafirearmsforum.c...ivil-war-is-imminent.51386/page-2#post-897239Politicians now come out as communists or socialists without fear of being labeled and push this down our collective throats.
As to the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement? It works world wide.
It's not about the statues. Don't think so?
you think the guy who doesn't have a sling takes Venmo?How old are you to still be writing checks???
You worry me son.
That's a whole lot of words to say "Democrats have done everything they can to ruin us, and it has finally worked with the Clinton Crime Bill - so now we have to deflect the blame to republicans and everybody else and scream a lot of nonsense.We dismantle the patriarchal practice that requires mothers to work “double shifts” so that they can mother in private even as they participate in public justice work.
We disrupt the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement by supporting each other as extended families and “villages” that collectively care for one another, especially our children, to the degree that mothers, parents, and children are comfortable. -
https://blacklivesmatter.com/what-we-believe/
That's a whole lot of words to say "Democrats have done everything they can to ruin us
BLM: What We Believe
We disrupt the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement by supporting each other as extended families and “villages” that collectively care for one another, especially our children, to the degree that mothers, parents, and children are comfortable.
https://blacklivesmatter.com/what-w...jolnPYxTy6CPpGtFena8WE-lq8wXOPet5_1mjcCbKK7ug
Tossing out logical fallacies and in your case, regurgitating a bunch of random links to justify your worldview that really have nothing to do with the original question I asked.
It's not about the statues. Don't think so? Just look at some of the statues that have been defaced or damaged.
Stacking blm & antifa bodies is exactly what its gonna take to end this nonsense. They are the enemy & the only acceptable option is to exterminate them.
I actually don't think the police should step aside, I think the mayors/governors/politicians, need to stay out of this, stop making the police stand down, and let them start whooping ass and enforcing the laws, with help from the NG and Military if need be. Stop these "protesters", lock them up for a long time, bust their heads if need be, treat violence with bigger violence, if need be. If the powers that be won't let the police do their job, have them stand down on all fronts, which means they don't get to arrest the folks enforcing the laws that their bosses won't let them enforce.Whoops, touched a sacred cow.
No, I wouldn't kill someone over an old statue. If you would, you shouldn't own firearms.
You can "but what about" all you want, claim slippery slope and ad hominem arguments, but it doesn't make it ok.
My first response was entirely a question in response to phideux's post, which seemed to say the police should step aside so one group of protesters could seemingly shoot the other. If that's what he meant by that, then him and anyone who agrees with him is on their way to becoming whay they claim to hate.
Good Lord guys, be better.
Yeah, I know. I was trying to include a fuller statement direct from the site you linked (and then give some personal commentary) but I screwed up how I did it. Sorry to mess it up.The following is what I stated / included,,,,
... The terrorist haven't been dealt with. They haven't had to deal with a pissed of redneck. They will regret it when they do....
I'm not willing to shoot someone over a statue.
My question is whether they are willing to kill or be killed over a statue.
I have no problem with your additions as their web site has a very "L O N G" list of values(?) or goals.Yeah, I know. I was trying to include a fuller statement direct from the site you linked (and then give some personal commentary) but I screwed up how I did it. Sorry to mess it up.
My commentary remains...
They definitely are willing to kill over a statue. Watch the video of the Albuquerque protest where they gang up on the guy who eventually shoots in self defense. Listen to the people yelling they are going to kill him.
Vandalism headstones at cemeteries has been an ongoing thing for a long time ... it’s just not media level unless it’s a mod (aka protest) doing it. Back on Memorial Day several NC and SC cemeteries had the American Flags on Veteran Graves ripped up and tossed. Early June an Anderson Co SC cemetery was hit hard with overturned and George Floyd related graffiti tagged headstones ... but nothing more than a little blip on local TV and Page 9 in the newspaper.Waiting for them to start vandalizing the graves of our families and loved ones.