Sometimes 'violence of action' is a deterrence when the opposition is violent. Are you saying they're not?
Is it at that point? I don't think so but they are sure setting it up to be.
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Sometimes 'violence of action' is a deterrence when the opposition is violent. Are you saying they're not?
Is it at that point? I don't think so but they are sure setting it up to be.
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Im glad to see these people showing up to protect it.
We're not talking about evil dictators or tyrants, we're talking about Americans who died in battle (Im thinking, specifically, about the CSA KIA statue in Lexington, not sure what this one is like/about).
You can have differing opinions on the CSA and the Civil War, but I dont think ripping down statues of the dead soldiers is the answer.
Am I missing the part where the folks defending the statue showed up at these morons dwellings to force their beliefs on them?
These people need to start accepting the reality of destroying property and looting having a high cost with the only thing they probably actually own.
No one on here is willing to kill anyone over a statue. But the longer the activist go without be challenged the braver and more violent they will get. When a fire starts you don’t wait until it’s out of control before you start trying to put it out. Kinda like a roof leak,, it doesn’t get better by itself. It will continue to worsen until it’s stopped.
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Speak for your self... Plenty of statues I think are more valuable than the majority of people these days... Of course, I have been told I'm a borderline sociopath...
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You really don't get it.
Given that this coast to coast Mob Rule has risen and in doing so "Hi-Jacked" the entire meaning of George Floyd's death and because of it being "Hi-Jacked" the issue~s at large have become many.
This whole mess is much more than a statue, it's about control,, period.
This "Hi-Jacked" movement started in Minneapolis, meaning they have a head start on other areas of our country.
You may ( or may not) want to read the entire article ( link below) because there are other reports that Minneapolis is "Devolving , Fast."
The Mob is implying that they will do what they want or they will burn down your neighborhood ~ city and it has nothing to do with Mr. Floyd.
Coming soon to your neighborhood,,?
Minneapolis neighborhood that vowed not to call police being tested by 300-strong homeless encampment
Another resident, Mitchell Erickson, said he regretted calling 911 when two black teenagers cornered him a block away from his home, held a gun to his chest and demanded his car keys. Erickson said he mistakenly handed over his house keys, and the frustrated teens left him only to steal another car a few blocks away.
“Been thinking more about it,” Erickson said in a text message to a reporter. “I regret calling the police. It was my instinct but I wish it hadn’t been. I put those boys in danger of death by calling the cops.”
https://fox6now.com/2020/06/25/minn...ing-tested-by-300-strong-homeless-encampment/
How about over your business or property or your neighbors home?
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BLM is really just the "moral front" for the Antifa/Anarchy movement, it is all about gaining power and control and destroying our society and way of life. Its pure evil and must be stop at all cost or this nation is doomed period.
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If these domestic terrorists show up at your house or business and try to burn it down and you have to defend your property with the use of violent action its not political my friend, its survival.
That is what this is all about......
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What are you willing to shoot someone over?
Because right about now there are a concerning number of people out there saying that everything needs to be burned and broken down and reshaped in a new image that does not resemble what we all know. If you get in the way, they want you dead. We know their role models and goals, and we have a pretty good historically-based idea of what they might try if they get more power.
So no, i'm not necessarily advocating violence - but I know that others ARE and being in a violent situation may not be my doing.
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For some of us, it's hard to know the evil that is blm and antifa, and not confront it when it comes to your town. They are depending upon most of us feeling that protecting a statue is not worth bloodshed. It is not just statues that they are coming for.
It’s not about the statute, it’s not even what it represents on the surface. It’s the idea of how we will conduct ourselves as a society. As others have put it, it’s about control and power, the same as the non violent methods. They’ve made thr choice to go to physical force. Reason and force are the only two ways to influence others. You can reason all you want but if your opponent isn’t going to play that game you’re going to lose. Obviously the first response shouldn’t be shooting, but I am not going to get in a gist fight either. You want to go to physical force, expect me to play to win. Should we have gone into Afghanistan and thrown concrete milkshakes or shoot them.
People have an idealized view of police and what they represent. This only holds as long as those they answer to uphold proper values. We are seeing the naked truth of who the cops answer to and it isn’t The People. Also, people can only bestow power to cops or anyone else that which they posses themselves. The People have every right to protect the property. Govts. are instituted to protect the rights of people, when they fail they need to be replaced, local, state, federal, international, galactic, it is all the same. When reason fails the choice is submit or use force. The nations founders exhausted the means of reason and turned to violence and it wasn’t an on off switch either, but ramped up. They didn’t become what they claimed to hate.
Whoops, touched a sacred cow.
No, I wouldn't kill someone over an old statue. If you would, you shouldn't own firearms.
You can "but what about" all you want, claim slippery slope and ad hominem arguments, but it doesn't make it ok.
My first response was entirely a question in response to phideux's post, which seemed to say the police should step aside so one group of protesters could seemingly shoot the other. If that's what he meant by that, then him and anyone who agrees with him is on their way to becoming whay they claim to hate.
Good Lord guys, be better.
Stacking blm & antifa bodies is exactly what its gonna take to end this nonsense. They are the enemy & the only acceptable option is to exterminate them.
Whoops, touched a sacred cow.
No, I wouldn't kill someone over an old statue. If you would, you shouldn't own firearms.
Well if not old statues, how about complete disregard of rule of law, and widespread failure of elected officials to protect the citizens and their property from the mob and the mayhem and violence they now condone and often support? Does your line in the sand start at your property line? If so that is too late and you will lose everything in a big way.
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Again, it's not about statues.
You conveniently side step the main issue / concern to isolate such event~s to a singular benign event.
You and I ( as well as H ) have had discussions about parallel societal issues in the past, to include others here on this forum.
I can observe you are not stupid, as it takes some reasoning and intelligence to source gun parts and sell firearms.
I'm glad you are here ( as well as others ) however you continually Lean LEFT.
So, who are you working for, alphabet office, Uncle George?
In fairness, I suppose you could really be a pacifist.
I'm not looking for an answer.
Poll: Almost 70% Of Americans Believe Civil War Is Imminent
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https://www.carolinafirearmsforum.c...ivil-war-is-imminent.51386/page-2#post-897239
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Lord Jamar: I Don't Support Black Lives Matter, It's Not Our Movement
Former Black Lives Matter Ferguson Organizer, Chaziel Sunz Exposes Democrats, Antifa, BLM & More.
BLM: What We Believe
We disrupt the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement by supporting each other as extended families and “villages” that collectively care for one another, especially our children, to the degree that mothers, parents, and children are comfortable.
https://blacklivesmatter.com/what-w...jolnPYxTy6CPpGtFena8WE-lq8wXOPet5_1mjcCbKK7ug
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It's not about the statues. Don't think so? Just look at some of the statues that have been defaced or damaged.
Not as an entire whole.
The statues ( as you know ) are an incremental "Ends to Means" for the Left to get what they want, period.
It's about power and dominance.
The Left is supporting and waging "Political Violence."
Forms of Political Violence
Political violence broadly defined, including guerrilla warfare, insurgency, terrorism, rebellion, revolution, rioting and civil war, can be distinguished in several ways, by the nature of the objectives; by the targets of attacks; by the organizational structure of groups and by the repertoire of actions.
https://ecpr.eu/Events/SectionDetails.aspx?SectionID=257&EventID=14
Political violence in Germany (1918–1933)
Germany saw significant political violence from the fall of the Second Reich and the rise of the Weimar Republic through the German Revolution of 1918–19, until the rise of the Nazi Party to power in 1933 when a Nazi totalitarian state was formed and opposition figures were arrested. The violence was characterised by assassinations by and confrontations between right-wing groups such as the Freikorps (sometimes in collusion with the state), and socialist organisations such as the Communist Party of Germany.[1]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_violence_in_Germany_(1918–1933)
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That's a whole lot of words to say "Democrats have done everything they can to ruin us, and it has finally worked with the Clinton Crime Bill - so now we have to deflect the blame to republicans and everybody else and scream a lot of nonsense.
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We dismantle the patriarchal practice that requires mothers to work “double shifts” so that they can mother in private even as they participate in public justice work.
We disrupt the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement by supporting each other as extended families and “villages” that collectively care for one another, especially our children, to the degree that mothers, parents, and children are comfortable. -
https://blacklivesmatter.com/what-we-believe/
That's a whole lot of words to say "Democrats have done everything they can to ruin us
The following is what I stated / included,,,,
We disrupt the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement by supporting each other as extended families and “villages” that collectively care for one another, especially our children, to the degree that mothers, parents, and children are comfortable. -
https://blacklivesmatter.com/what-we-believe/
That's a whole lot of words to say "Democrats have done everything they can to ruin us
The following is what I stated / included,,,,
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Like others have said, its not just about the statues. Antifa and BLM are just the face of anarchist and communist agitators. In tearing down statues, signs, and buildings, they're attacking the symbols of the society that they hate. They're not going to stop with the symbols. They already work to identify counter-protesters, and contact employers, associations, and businesses to destroy their way of life. They already attack people in the street, and pull people out of cars.
If they're given enough time, and a lack of repercussions for their actions, its very likely that they're going to start actively targeting anti-communist and patriotic Americans with violence for not bowing to their wishes.
I don't want to see fighting in the streets, but we have a mob that's willing to stoop to that level to get their way.
If they're given enough time, and a lack of repercussions for their actions, its very likely that they're going to start actively targeting anti-communist and patriotic Americans with violence for not bowing to their wishes.
I don't want to see fighting in the streets, but we have a mob that's willing to stoop to that level to get their way.
As I have shared, it's not about statues and for added value, here's another random link the reports the actions of the LEFT.
I guess these fine outstanding citizens just broke in to look for statues, or maybe they've run out of buildings to burn and statues to topple.
2A: St. Louis Couple Protect Home the Old-Fashioned Way from BLM Mob
Are we living in Venezuela now?
A St. Louis couple, both attorneys, stood outside their home on Sunday evening with what looks to be an AR-15 and a pistol after a group of Black Lives Matter protestors broke into their gated community and trespassed on their property.
https://www.redstate.com/elizabeth-...-after-blm-breaks-into-their-gated-community/
Ears. Get some.
That's out of the way.
Call them what they are. They are terrorist. They want you to live in fear. Where do you draw the line? These folks in Morganton said "not in my town." You have to stand up to thugs and bullies. Most folks here grew up in a time when you dealt with bullies as a child. You stomped a mud hole in them. The terrorist haven't been dealt with. They haven't had to deal with a pissed of redneck. They will regret it when they do.
Ears. Get some if it come to that.
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I actually don't think the police should step aside, I think the mayors/governors/politicians, need to stay out of this, stop making the police stand down, and let them start whooping ass and enforcing the laws, with help from the NG and Military if need be. Stop these "protesters", lock them up for a long time, bust their heads if need be, treat violence with bigger violence, if need be. If the powers that be won't let the police do their job, have them stand down on all fronts, which means they don't get to arrest the folks enforcing the laws that their bosses won't let them enforce.Whoops, touched a sacred cow.
No, I wouldn't kill someone over an old statue. If you would, you shouldn't own firearms.
You can "but what about" all you want, claim slippery slope and ad hominem arguments, but it doesn't make it ok.
My first response was entirely a question in response to phideux's post, which seemed to say the police should step aside so one group of protesters could seemingly shoot the other. If that's what he meant by that, then him and anyone who agrees with him is on their way to becoming whay they claim to hate.
Good Lord guys, be better.
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Yeah, I know. I was trying to include a fuller statement direct from the site you linked (and then give some personal commentary) but I screwed up how I did it. Sorry to mess it up.
My commentary remains...
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Worth noting that they're throwing the book at him for lesser charges because the big charges were already dropped.
My question is whether they are willing to kill or be killed over a statue.
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They definitely are willing to kill over a statue. Watch the video of the Albuquerque protest where they gang up on the guy who eventually shoots in self defense. Listen to the people yelling they are going to kill him.
I have no problem with your additions as their web site has a very "L O N G" list of values(?) or goals.
I just try to include what I believe to be the most important, the retention of "Core Family", not to undermine it.
https://blacklivesmatter.com/what-w...0qncZ_k69QrX94o0Px66j_IYmc9tMZ-uEgV0B7-g68-zg
They are willing to kill and are, therefore, willing to risk their own lives for their cause. Statues are of no real consequence, so killing or being killed just for a statue is of little meaning. They are willing to sacrifice lives, their lives and your life, to achieve their goals. They can not lose if they are willing to kill and those who oppose them are not. If you are not willing to meet force with force if it is thrust upon you, then you might as well just give them what they want, say goodbye to freedom, and become their slave.
Waiting for them to start vandalizing the graves of our families and loved ones.
Vandalism headstones at cemeteries has been an ongoing thing for a long time ... it’s just not media level unless it’s a mod (aka protest) doing it. Back on Memorial Day several NC and SC cemeteries had the American Flags on Veteran Graves ripped up and tossed. Early June an Anderson Co SC cemetery was hit hard with overturned and George Floyd related graffiti tagged headstones ... but nothing more than a little blip on local TV and Page 9 in the newspaper.
