LMAO: Leftest Radio Host buying Gun; Peaceful Protestors Torch His Apt.
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BINGO!
Maybe not you personally, how many of your generation even know how Basic Government is suppose to work?
How many your generation, at least, somewhat follow current events versus having a Damn X-Box - Play Station surgically attached to your body?
How many in your generation plagiarize & cheat in school, HS or College? LOTS, and it shows!
It's pretty bad when I ask someone in their late twenties thru forties about Alaska and they don't Fracking know what Alaska is or even where. BTW, yes this has happened and my answer to those that don't know, "Alaska is a crater on the MOON. "
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I am actually working on that as we speak. I've always felt that training/education/safety was a glaring hole in the system. But, I couldn't figure out the financial piece. Since I've been COVID retired, it changes things a bit. I've just spent the time and money and finished NRA Pistol Instructor Training, not because I think they have a whiz bang program with the latest skills, but they have an established program that lends credibility to the uninitiated. And they have a structure I wanted to understand. And I'm actively working on another "Instructor Certification" with a more defensive focus. NRA is adverse to implying that they are training people to shoot people.
Not that I don't already know how. I've been to some pretty intensive classes. But, wanted to learn the structure of other more traditional programs. No, these are not high speed, low drag classes and I've had those personally. But, this is the stuff that many, many people need and getting these certs shows me how "they" do it. Too many CCW/CHP/CWP classes are just trying to get people in and out of the door for their permits with minimal training. If I could just give it all away, I would. But, there is a cost involved in time and money. I'm trying to figure out how it will be cost effective and attractive for the client, whether it be how it's packaged or some other incentive.
On a large scale, an idea I thought of to incentivize taking a class, would be manufacturer rebates, but that's a big discussion at a later date. I thought about getting volunteers to give time to training in some form. I don't know yet. But, I'm trying to do something and not just talk about it anymore.
We could find examples from EVERY generation of some idiots.
I could show a video right now of a guy in his 50s/60s that doesnt know what the Electoral College is...so what?
We could play the 'how many in your generation...' game all day but it only shows what you want it to show, when you pick and choose what evidence you want to present.
OR we can just not blame certain generations for XXXXXX and move on
Everybody thinks it's the other guys fault.
If you feel short changed it's because of the man in your mirror, no one else.
If you feel short changed it's because of the man in your mirror, no one else.
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I'm not a parent, so I can't say this for sure... but I'm gen X. my sister is a few years older than me (also genx) and when she tells her kids they didn't get something right because they kind of suck at it and need to practice more... it's a lot like listening to our mom back when we were kids.
Mom wouldn't have said "suck" back then, but the message was the same. I was a small kid that grew up late - they didn't even pretend I had the same physical skills as the other boys.
OP
Yup, well BBers brought them into the world, you & I ( probably many more as well ) have to agree to disagree that Boomers are responsible for sewing and raising marginally functional people.
Through the years and decades wife & I, and others that we socialize with, bent over backwards to keep our young ones going in the right direction. We are fortunate ours turned out to be normal productive members of society, which through the years came at a cost. Other Boomer(?) parents had their kids turnout normal as well while other parents were left in a Lurch wondering what the Hell went wrong.
Two things I identify as shaping our youth in a negative manor and being in "direct control(?)" of any parent ( Boomers included ) was the introduction of "Pocket Computers" ( Cell Phones ) & the "Electronic Babysitter", (video games).
With the introduction of cell ph and use of social media enabling young people to "Go Behind " parents back~s was / is a Real Challenge. Couple that fact with the "Instant Gratification" pocket computers offer and it's a real challenge.
This cell ph thing allows unchecked Social Media influence enabling young people to play / mold their developing Acceptance & Rejection standards to many times less or much less than what Parents planned / gave direction for.
FWIW
OP
Fine,
Lets look at a Root Cause of these idiots, lack of education.
""I then pointed to another study that says that for close to 40 percent of our college students, the first two years of college add virtually no value at all, and "not much" value for the rest. I ended by pointing out that, if this is all true, then colleges are typically teaching most students what we used to teach in the high school college-bound track and are not doing it very well.""
https://blogs.edweek.org/edweek/top...e_american_education_standards_collapsed.html
''We seem to move children through the grades because of their birthdays, not because of what they have accomplished,'' said Robert Wilburn, the new State Education Secretary.
https://www.nytimes.com/1983/10/09/us/high-schools-stiffen-diploma-requirements.html
"The broad outlines of this crisis have been apparent for many years. High schools have been “selling students short” for decades, offering too many options and too many watered-down courses. They have sustained a culture of low expectations on both sides of the teacher’s desk."
"Beyond the fact that large numbers of high-school teachers are teaching subjects in which they have neither a major nor a minor, even teachers who do have strong academic credentials are often clueless about how to teach their subjects to students from diverse backgrounds and abilities."
"This means that American young people must graduate with first-rate knowledge, understanding, and skills in foreign languages, mathematics, the sciences, American history and civics, world history and cultures, and great literature from every part of the globe."
https://www.educationnext.org/the-traditional-high-school/
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Dude I stopped when I saw different color fonts and random things in larger font
I see that at the end you have some BLM stuff...which has zero relation to what you and i were speaking of
I see that at the end you have some BLM stuff...which has zero relation to what you and i were speaking of
OP
Apparently you have pent up Overflowing RAW Anger towards Boomers.
I can't help with that, way above my pay grade.
I suppose us Boomers should consider the possibility that "The Peaceful Protesters" will start Purging ( Killing ) Boomers.
One statement you chose not to address is below.
Interesting as cheating is an individual choice, regardless if Boomers ( or others ) condone it, and I'm not looking for a reply.
I resemble the last sentence.
Yes, gun training locally leads to slavery... **sigh**
Good for you! We need less talk and more do! I did a similar thing. Apex needed a CCH instructor so I went and got certified. I would just like to get people to shoot their pistols in a safe effective manner. Nothing high speed, just basics. There is a huge need for basic handgun training. I see it at the range every time i go. The money part is harder, i hope you can figure it out. I come from the perspective of helping people and possibly saving their life or the life of another. I would volunteer 4-8 hours a month to help new shooters if we had a good place to shoot. You get a few hundred of guys like me and you got something that can really make changes. But we have to have a place to do it at.
We need more people getting involved, but i see a huge problem in our world today and that is no one wants a shooting range near their house. Some counties are basically one large town. We need places to shoot and people need basic training. Maybe it ends up being more rural counties have public ranges. For a country with a second amendment, we certainly don't have enough support from any government entity on helping shooters, quite the opposite. We have municipalities throwing up road blocks to STOP new ranges. Insurance and regulations are pushing shooting sports away and that is not a good thing.
Mandatory is not the same as local. Mandatory means you must do what some liberal government employee says you must do in order to buy guns. Mandatory means you must bow and scrape to obey the master. Mandatory means you must pass a course that can be as increasingly impossible to pass as the government employee wants. Mandatory means that all gun owners must be registered. Is that too hard to understand? Is that what you want?
I am all for training. I think people who buy guns should do everybody a favor and learn how to use them safely and effectively. I am not now nor will I ever be in favor of requiring mandatory training by some government body in order to buy firearms. I am also not in favor of having to get a permit to carry a concealed handgun. That horse is out of the barn. Hopefully we can get it back into the barn one of these days.
While on the subject of mandatory and education, I will pass on what an Arkansas resident told me when Slick Willie was first running for president. This gentleman and his lovely wife said that Hillary wanted to control all the public schools in Arkansas. The made it so that there was a set of state standards that all the school children must meet in order to pass their grade. Any school that did not have a certain percentage of students passing their grades would be taken over and run by the state. Hillary used her numerous means of persuasion to raise the standards so high that no school would have the appropriate number of passing students. That allowed her to take control of the state schools. Her control of the schools was a dismal failure, and she just walked away leaving shambles.
I am not positive of all the minute details, but that does not really matter. What does matter is that it shows there is a seemingly beneficial pathway to control that could easily be used for firearms. Setting the bar high enough in the mandatory training so that nobody can pass would insure that nobody outside of the government could have legal firearms.
I am not positive of all the minute details, but that does not really matter. What does matter is that it shows there is a seemingly beneficial pathway to control that could easily be used for firearms. Setting the bar high enough in the mandatory training so that nobody can pass would insure that nobody outside of the government could have legal firearms.
Putting this in 'Reader's Digest Version'... The .gov is NOT your friend.
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I will interject here...
Of course anyone who can see what is going on instead of believing what the media says SHOULD be angry at the people that allowed it to happen. I don’t blame him for that. I am barely a boomer and I am mad at us (in general) and the generation before about where we have ended up.
Maybe you have a little pent up anger problem too. Kids today cheat (in general) because they have no reason not to. Their is no moral compass except what feels good and what’s good for me. The people that should be examples in society - “leaders” in politics, sports, media, business - are nearly without exception obviously corrupt self-serving asses. And not only do they get away with it - they are praised and rewarded for it. There is nothing left to teach kids right from wrong, much less why that matters.
Kids don’t raise themselves, good or bad.
“Train up a child in the way he should go, and he will not depart from it” works the other way too.
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Im genuinely curious how many folks on here actually interact with youth, the youth they say do all these bad things etc
Hell, Im just jealous that I didnt come up with the generation that had no cheaters, liars, criminals etc
Hell, Im just jealous that I didnt come up with the generation that had no cheaters, liars, criminals etc
OP
He should be
So, ????????????????????
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No
However, this being a firearms forum, If anything I find it unsettling that many here fully discount other shooters because they don't have or can't afford $1,200 glass, SBR (Short Barrel Rifles ) , and all the other pricey items to , hum, Play Rambo?
There are MANY that do not chime in here ( publicly ) with firearm questions for concerns of being told to "Frack Off."
Overall that's a "Damn Shame" because there are some experienced shooters here that could assist / help less experienced shooters that own a basic rifle & glass.
Really? Even in today's world people Know Right from Wrong.
As to " they have no reason not to?". Peer Pressure has deemed cheating, etc, OK, simple as that.
BINGO,,!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
America was founded on Christian Judeo values, period.
Through the years ~ decades of nullifying and removing these values ( Morals ) from all aspects of public, and great inroads in private life, we have ended up with a Moral Vacuum. So, what's replaced it? the overall general attitude of "I ~ we can do what ever because it ~~~ Feels(?) Good."
So, how's that working?
I'm NOT looking for or want a reply and don't need one because the answer is on the news every night.
AND,
As always there are some that will or want to challenge "The God or Moral Thing."
To which the following is proposed;
Whether one believes in God or not, would your life be better off living as if there is one or there is not one?
BTW, some of this answer can be found on the news every night.
Frankly, I don't much care for "Tossed Salad" or everything goes.
I believe you mean a vast majority of our Leaders(?) are corrupt.
I fully agree.
It has been recently been proven ( as you know ) that many Key figures in all levels of government are corrupt.
Disagree, there is and are us individuals and some institutions around to instill right from wrong.
??, OK, so you are placing blame with my generation, (Boomers ) ?
So, in essence the younger generation is blaming us Boomers as an excuse to accept the emerging craziness in today's society.
So, lets say a Boomer sells Booze to your friend and you and friend go driving around, friend becomes Drunk ( DWI ) and instead of stopping your friends Drunk Driving you start drinking with him as well.
Good God!! Are you folks being paid by the word??
I don't know about 'bad things' but I have paid a little attention to my nephews as they've grown up. No idea if they're typical, but what I've noticed is that they're super advanced in some areas, and just stone dumb in others. They also seem pretty immature, I was taking the bus to school by myself and walking home to an empty house and taking care of myself until my parents got home at 6pm since I was in the 4th or 5th grade. The nephews can't fix a freakin' snack or do anything without their mom around.
My opinion though is that they can't do anything for themselves or think for themselves because they've never been given a chance to. Helicopter mom, constant constant "activities" like soccer, extra church schools, organized play dates, etc... they have no chance to be alone to actually discover on their own. Everything is handed or forced on them so they have no reason to try to figure anything out.
With no chance to develop the ability to think through a problem, reason a solution, or even just TRY stuff, how can we expect them to grow into actual adults? I don't see how it's possible, and what we end up with are the winy ass punks you see on youtube crying about this or that. For 20+ years they've been coddled and now they're in the real world and it doesn't work like home.
The damage to the country will be those coddled idiots voting for people who will resume the role their parents had, telling them what to do and thinking for them so they can continue to exist without the ability to reason for themselves and always having someone else to blame for their failures.
The forum mods give me a 22LR round for every word. Isn't that the standard rate the rest of you are getting?
a - it doesnt take any pricey items to hum, you can do that for free
b - I really question this second one because Ive seen (heck, Ive asked) some basic firearm questions through the years and never been told or seen people being told to F off.
*you're
Are people stating that YOU aren't a serious shooter? Or that OTHERS are feeling like they aren't and they are confiding in you?
Again, I cant recall seeing people get blasted on here
OP
Yes, 2 ~ 4 times through the years ( some recent~ly )
LoL,
No
My stuff works / performs as expected.
At times when I feel it's necessary I will add or contribute my thoughts / experiences, but many times I do not.
Having stated that, a main concern of mine is there are some average shooters that are confused with and trying to understand why they need ( as laid out in many post ) moderately high end to high end gear to shoot.
Or, why an Anderson lower will not work to where an Aero will work.
For many that do not enjoy extra disposable income, it can and will make a difference with what they buy.
So, this is not about me, and not about you, H.
As I pointed out there is some talent & experience and Others have found responses less than flattering.
Plenty of squared away youngsters.
I hang with a few that are amazing. If you have any doubts about the quality, hang out with a few young SF guys from Bragg. It will give you some hope for todays youth.
Just an example, I know many other non-military.
They ain't all hopeless pussies.
I hang with a few that are amazing. If you have any doubts about the quality, hang out with a few young SF guys from Bragg. It will give you some hope for todays youth.
Just an example, I know many other non-military.
They ain't all hopeless pussies.
OP
Yup, well,,
To keep it in context,
I don't believe the ones I've had negative experiences with are Evil.
Overall I think they mean well, BUT,,,,
Then ,, their "Inner Child" comes out.
I'm fine, however as I stated before I'm more concerned with others that are "Side Lined" with such "Inner Child~s" coming out.
You would think somebody that loves to post photos of Schumer, Pelosi, Obama, Waters, Sanders, and Biden so much wouldn't work so hard to defend their generation.
OP
Oh this is so Incredibility "R I C H"
I am not a socialist and neither are other Boomers(?) that I've interacted with throughout life.
I've also come to expect such comments from a "closet chameleon" that still wonders if integrity is a real word.
BTW, you ( as others ) NEVER answered the following;
Who sold the 19 year old kid from Boston the pistol?
Not looking for an answer.
HPU student charged with threat of mass violence after arrested with guns on campus
Aug 28, 2019
Paul A. Steber, a freshman from Boston, will be held with no bond for up to 10 days, according to High Point police. During his custody, he must have a mental health evaluation.
Steber appeared in Courtroom 3D of the Guilford County Courthouse Wednesday afternoon.
He is charged with having two weapons on campus: A 9mm semi-automatic pistol and a black powder/percussion double-barrel 12-gauge shotgun.
https://hpenews.com/news/10729/upda...-violence-after-arrested-with-guns-on-campus/
I am not a socialist and neither are other Boomers(?) that I've interacted with throughout life.
I've also come to expect such comments from a "closet chameleon" that still wonders if integrity is a real word.
BTW, you ( as others ) NEVER answered the following;
Who sold the 19 year old kid from Boston the pistol?
Not looking for an answer.
HPU student charged with threat of mass violence after arrested with guns on campus
Aug 28, 2019
Paul A. Steber, a freshman from Boston, will be held with no bond for up to 10 days, according to High Point police. During his custody, he must have a mental health evaluation.
Steber appeared in Courtroom 3D of the Guilford County Courthouse Wednesday afternoon.
He is charged with having two weapons on campus: A 9mm semi-automatic pistol and a black powder/percussion double-barrel 12-gauge shotgun.
https://hpenews.com/news/10729/upda...-violence-after-arrested-with-guns-on-campus/
WTF is a closet chameleon?
Are you out of Haldol or something?
Are you out of Haldol or something?
OP
This is Bountiful
H, as I've said before, it's nice to have voices from the Left on a firearms forum.
With our current political climate, seems many are fence sitting and deflecting total blame in one direction.
However as human nature & history has shown / proven, when the “Overseers“ are close to being done many fence sitters will go for a ride, even sitters of the same mind set.
However, some will not.
Coming from one that appears Lending Moral Support for Antifa
H, as I've said before, it's nice to have voices from the Left on a firearms forum.
With our current political climate, seems many are fence sitting and deflecting total blame in one direction.
However as human nature & history has shown / proven, when the “Overseers“ are close to being done many fence sitters will go for a ride, even sitters of the same mind set.
However, some will not.
"We made this bot watch 20k hours of Infowars footage and these are the posts it made"
how does that show any support for them?
How does that show Im leftist?
Because Im calling you out for two threads on the same topic in 15 minutes?
Youre stretching far on that one. But you think what you will.
I'll keep thinking youre getting paid a nickle per Soros picture you post up.
Imagine 90% of your posts being copy and pasted news articles spiced with your own misspellings, syntax errors, and piss-poor grasp of grammar and accusing another generation of being lazy, stupid, plagiarizing individuals.