Protester shot in austin TX

NCFubar said:
The facts are not even out and the mob wants blood ... and even if proven not guilty in a court of law they’ll still want blood.
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They don’t care about your “law” or your “courts”. They don’t see them as valid, just, or authoritative. The verdict doesn’t matter. The process doesn’t matter because it’s invalid. Their goal is to render your court and your law meaningless by virtue of it being unenforceable.

They’re not going to appeal to an institution they despise and want to destroy as an arbiter of conflict.
 
vp9c said:
the driver was the aggressor story on
CNN...

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/28/us/austin-protest-shooting-witness/index.html

this will probably further escalate the situations.
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Just trying to establish the narrative. You blocked the road and split into two groups (fast walkers and slower ones) Driver waited for first group to pass, then went forward and made a blind right hand turn. Stepped on brake and sounded horn to clear road as any motorist would do with someone in the street as he ran into the second group. If he had intended to run the protesters over, driver would not sounded horn in surprise and stopped. Did he run over or hit anyone? Did you swarm his car and assault it? Protester just stated that they did. Stop blocking roads and highways!


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Combat Diver said:
Just trying to establish the narrative. You blocked the road and split into two groups (fast walkers and slower ones) Driver waited for first group to pass, then went forward and made a blind right hand turn. Stepped on brake and sounded horn to clear road as any motorist would do with someone in the street as he ran into the second group. If he had intended to run the protesters over, driver would not sounded horn in surprise and stopped. Did he run over or hit anyone? Did you swarm his car and assault it? Protester just stated that they did. Stop blocking roads and highways!


CD
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and it’s crazy because if you limit yourself to one type of news source you end up in a completely different reality.

The media has become way more divisive than any politician ever could’ve been.

here you are a guy on the other side of the world and you were able to use publicly accessible information to shed some light on the issue, but a “journalist“ from a multi million dollar news agency just went with what was easy and expedient and confirmed their bias.

I would love to see a little bit better video imagery of how aggressively he was driving, but the short bits that I could see didn’t seem to show anybody slamming on the gas and people flying through the air like bowling pins
 
vp9c said:
and it’s crazy because if you limit yourself to one type of news source you end up in a completely different reality.

The media has become way more divisive than any politician ever could’ve been.

here you are a guy on the other side of the world and you were able to use publicly accessible information to shed some light on the issue, but a “journalist“ from a multi million dollar news agency just went with what was easy and expedient and confirmed their bias.

I would love to see a little bit better video imagery of how aggressively he was driving, but the short bits that I could see didn’t seem to show anybody slamming on the gas and people flying through the air like bowling pins
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see my post #78 here (bottom of last page) for link. There was also a dash cam video from a car across the intersection showing the driver turning and going thru the intersection, breaking, mobbing the car and then scattering. No sound on that one. Twitter may have taken it both down as protesters realize it doesn't fit there narrative.

CD
 
Combat Diver said:
see my post #78 here (bottom of last page) for link. There was also a dash cam video from a car across the intersection showing the driver turning and going thru the intersection, breaking, mobbing the car and then scattering. No sound on that one. Twitter may have taken it both down as protesters realize it doesn't fit there narrative.

CD
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link to dash cam? didn’t see that one
 
Twitter now lets the author hide the comments they don't like. Liberals don't have to wait for their overlords to censor, their training is now complete and they are now an army of censors.
 
A killer trained and employed by the government assassinates a peaceful protestor. Maybe this was orchestrated to allow passage of laws restricting 2A?

Law enforcement needs to wrap this investigation up quickly. They’re probably scared to do so, but the bias is going to build the longer they wait.

FWIW, I have a hard time with BLM protestors, much less ANTIFA, as witnesses. They obviously aren’t good at recognizing what’s going on when they have all the time in the world, they’re surely going to be oblivious in a crisis and then their brain just fills in all the “details” with what they expect.

Frankly if no protestors went to the hospital with injuries from being struck by the car, then they should be able to wrap this up today.

 
vp9c said:
wow

we always have seated stages in matches but i know the seatbelt would interfere with my draw.

makes you rethink carry position/access while driving.
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I've been carrying appendix for many many years now, and in the car, it's perfect. Seat belt and shirt go behind the gun, grip is right there.
 
Combat Diver said:
https://mobile.twitter.com/moonchynn/status/1287438000289456129?s=20
Hard to watch but if you go frame by frame you can pick these out.


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Concurs with drivers statement that Foster stuck an AK into his window. Notice driver had stopped (brake lights)

CD
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Is it bad that watching and listening to the video made me think of this? :rolleyes:
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Combat Diver said:
Info on driver released

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ustin-revealed-33-year-old-Army-sergeant.html

Remember if its on the net, its there forever.

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InfoSec issues and discretion aside, anyone from MLK, Jr. to David Duke would be justified in using deadly force against an approaching person using an AK as a close-range traffic control device while your car is surrounded by a crowd of people.

Ability, opportunity, and perceivable jeopardy, combined with an inability to flee.

Even the biggest shit-stirrer that drives by protestors just to honk and be a dick isn’t precluded from responding proportionately to the muzzle end of an AK. Prior dumbass statements don’t preclude reasonably unforeseeable exposure to an imminent threat of great bodily harm (a pointed rifle).
 
CZfool68 said:
I really believe it might be time to start publishing home addresses and personal details of everyone in the press on the internet. This little cold war is starting to get people hurt and killed. Maybe the press needs to experience some consequences for their behavior.
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One of the few provisions of California law I admire is they make property ownership and voting records very difficult to access.

If you live in N.C., your property tax records and voter registration home address are matters of easily-accessible public record.
 
JRV said:
One of the few provisions of California law I admire is they make property ownership and voting records very difficult to access.

If you live in N.C., your property tax records and voter registration home address are matters of easily-accessible public record.
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Here we don’t make it easy for crooks and politicians to hide their presence.
 
OldNascar said:
Here we don’t make it easy for crooks and politicians to hide their presence.
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Well, yes. We either all get privacy for PIN or none of us, politicians included, do. It would absolutely suck to have an issue with a stalker, a bad ex, or being a doxxing target in a place like North Carolina or Florida. If you’re registered to vote or pay taxes for a vehicle, your most recent home address is accessible with a couple clicks.

There are still fee-based services like PeopleTrace that can work up a really thorough background search on anyone, and if you have some starter info and can fish through the junk, FastPeopleSearch is a quick free alternative.

I can’t think of any state, thankfully, that excludes public figures from its public records.
 
NoNameHaveI said:
Wow straight up hit piece by the dailymail! They must be the WaPo of Great Britain.
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It surely was. Nothing he said was especially outrageous. shooting for center mass is generally gospel. shooting the leg to wound is popular idiocy.
I also noticed they left it at saying the dead man said "gotta exercise some of our rights" and left off the part about what he thought of the people he intended to intimidate with his AK pattern gun.

And now you see why that paper is referred to as Daily FAIL.
 
JRV said:
Well, yes. We either all get privacy for PIN or none of us, politicians included, do. It would absolutely suck to have an issue with a stalker, a bad ex, or being a doxxing target in a place like North Carolina or Florida. If you’re registered to vote or pay taxes for a vehicle, your most recent home address is accessible with a couple clicks.

There are still fee-based services like PeopleTrace that can work up a really thorough background search on anyone, and if you have some starter info and can fish through the junk, FastPeopleSearch is a quick free alternative.

I can’t think of any state, thankfully, that excludes public figures from its public records.
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In reality N.C., like all ‘good’ governments, allow requests for privacy so fill out the form and no one knows your whereabouts.
 
Stick Man said:
I've been carrying appendix for many many years now, and in the car, it's perfect. Seat belt and shirt go behind the gun, grip is right there.
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Combat Diver said:
Info on driver released

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ustin-revealed-33-year-old-Army-sergeant.html

Remember if its on the net, its there forever.
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Yeah, that's important to remember. What you post online (including various social media forums) even under a pseudonym, can have repercussions down the line. Don't think using an alternate name/identity online will isolate your postings from being connected to you, either. Data, and meta-data, mining correlates tons of stuff all the time, all conveniently developed and driven by the very market forces which drive our society. It's all about information...and there's simply an unfathomable mountain of information out there and plenty of tools to sort through it all.

Foster, it's believed, confronted Perry who was driving a black Hyundai Elantra and was gunned down in front of his disabled fiancée Whitney Mitchell.

Nice job of them minimizing Foster's role in this, and painting him as an innocent victim. Well done, liberal media rag, well done.

The 28-year-old former Air Force mechanic later died in hospital from his injuries.

So now his prior military experience is being used to paint him as, possibly, an unsung hero due to his prior service. Who, of course, was gunned down in front of his DISABLED fiancee. "Air Force mechanic" certainly sounds less sinister than "E-5 Army sergeant" who lives in an appartment building "filled with serving military personnel where units rent for just over $700 a month".

DailyMail.com has pieced together the aftermath of the shooting and has learned Perry called 911 immediately after the incident at 10pm Saturday before pulling his car over a short distance down the road on Congress Avenue in downtown Austin.

And now they're an investigative agency, piecing together evidence and presenting it as if they're conducting their own criminal investigation. They didn't piece together sh*t. They simply posted information already available from the police, and likely from other "news" sources. AP...what a wonderful gag in the "news" world.
 
Perry's lawyer is using good logic, 'he had an assault weapon' pointed at him. I wonder if there was an inside camera in his car?
 
While stupid for posting what he did, unless he had posted something which alluded to a plan like "be casually driving through a protest area baiting people to commit a 'fear-for-my-life act' and then shoot them", I don't think this will end up getting him convicted, provided his story stands as we currently know it and other evidence supports that.

I'm sure there's even more video footage of this event out there somewhere, just waiting to be discovered. People LOVE videoing these events, even (or especially) the agitators. If the investigation shows this in his favor, then that's hard to argue against successfully.

However, it certainly won't make his time in court any easier.
 
The folks filming this are NOT on his side and would not release evidence showing dead guy in the wrong.
 
HMP said:
The folks filming this are NOT on his side and would not release evidence showing dead guy in the wrong.
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Yep, likely any video that wasn't live streamed was deleted shortly after the incident. IF this went down in any other fashion, I guarantee you there would be 500 videos of the incident posted all over the internet. These folks video EVERYTHING.
 
HMP said:
The folks filming this are NOT on his side and would not release evidence showing dead guy in the wrong.
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SOMEBODY will be stupid enough to circulate it. Because...stupid.
 
RetiredUSNChief said:
SOMEBODY will be stupid enough to circulate it. Because...stupid.
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Also, because, someone will think it shows the opposite of what it does, like in Brunswich, GA or they will sell it to someone who offers money for it like a media company.
 
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JRV said:
InfoSec issues and discretion aside, anyone from MLK, Jr. to David Duke would be justified in using deadly force against an approaching person using an AK as a close-range traffic control device while your car is surrounded by a crowd of people.

Ability, opportunity, and perceivable jeopardy, combined with an inability to flee.

Even the biggest shit-stirrer that drives by protestors just to honk and be a dick isn’t precluded from responding proportionately to the muzzle end of an AK. Prior dumbass statements don’t preclude reasonably unforeseeable exposure to an imminent threat of great bodily harm (a pointed rifle).
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I every picture I've seen of Foster with his rifle, he's had his hand on the grip. This seemed to be his regular carry mode and if this is how he approached the vehicle it adds to the threat perception whether he actually pointed it directly or not. If someone approaches me with hand on grip, it's demonstrates intent and is already a threat. If that muzzle rises at all, it's high center mass.
 
I thought this part was something MSM, "community organizers"' and little dictators need to hear every day, stated succinctly:

"...Blocking streets without notice, is not a peaceful assembly. It is a form of political intimidation.

The Left continually attempts to portray these incidents as “drivers attacking protestors”. Examined closely, that is almost never the case. It is the drivers who are the innocent victims, caught up in a no-win situation by a hostile mob who feel entitled to disrupt other people's lives.

The ability to travel freely, in relative safety, is a hallmark of civilization. The ability to block public right of ways without legal consequence, is evidence of a breakdown of the civil order, of anarchy and mob rule..."
 
JT said:
Update:

https://www.ammoland.com/2020/08/at...etails-confirming-self-defense/#axzz6ULnbj9U4
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I'm absolutely LOVING this:

We urge the public to allow the police to conduct a full investigation. We also need to correct statements that have been reported by the press. First, Sgt. Perry never left his vehicle preceding or immediately following the shooting. Second, Sgt. Perry did not “flee” but immediately called police upon getting to safety. Finally and most importantly, police have interviewed witnesses who were demonstrating with Mr. Foster and these witnesses have confirmed that Mr. Foster raised his assault rifle in a direct threat to Sgt. Perry’s life.
 
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