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Ham radios always been interested but have had the time. Please don't roll our eyes so if I wanted to get started on basic communication what would I need to buy and what brands are descent.
I basically want a way to communicate if it hits the fan.

Thanks for our time in advance.
 
There are plenty of people here that are far more versed than I am and will lay down some knowledge that can be a little overwhelming. But it is good information.

I guess the first 2 questions questions you should probably answer is long range or short range comms and what kind of budget do you have to invest?

I have a ham license but I rarely use it. I mainly got it so that I could buy some short range equipment and test it out. I'm not that interested in HF comms, having gotten my fill in the suck.

What I decided to go with is an inexpensive set of Beugang (or however it's spelled) UHF/VHF radios. With a good external antennae array on top of the truck or outside the house, even with the handhelds I can effectively communicate about 5 miles which gets my circle of friends.

If I connect to the Sauertown mountain relay I can communicate about 30-40 miles.

All in, I may have about $300 in 2 radios and good antennas.

These nice thing about this style of radio is that you can program in FRS stations and communicate with people that only have walmart radios as well as monitor most 911 traffic etc.
 
I should add, you can buy and monitor without a license you just can't transmit on these stations unless an emergency has been declared.
 
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Ham radios always been interested but have had the time. Please don't roll our eyes so if I wanted to get started on basic communication what would I need to buy and what brands are descent.
I basically want a way to communicate if it hits the fan.

Thanks for our time in advance.

Nobody is going to roll their eyes at you taking an interest in basic communications. If you're considering HAM radio you can get into it with little expense. You can study for the test online and download some PDF books for free and taking the test, which is required once in your life, costs between $12 and $15. In most venues you can take all three of the tests for that one fee if you so choose. It is a matter of how much you time and effort you wish to put into it. The quickest way to prepare for the test is to simply study the flash cards (online or download an app) and basically memorize the questions and answers.

As Chad says below, a couple of cheap radios coupled with a decent antenna can get you started. As a practical matter, you can get a radio for about $25 and a mag mount antenna to put on a vehicle for about $18 and have fairly decent reception and transmission range. Most people do start out with a handheld, or HT (Handy Talkie) as they're called. You can get an inexpensive one for about $25. You can get ones that will have the newer digital modes like DMR for about $100, or you can get a higher end model like a Kenwood for about $250-$300 dollars. Note that to a degree you do get what you pay for and a $300 Kenwood will have better performance than a $25 Chinese radio.

At this point we're still mostly in the realm of UHF/VHF which is largely the spectrum available to a technician license. If you want to go into the HF realm you should get at least a general class license.

I guess the first 2 questions questions you should probably answer is long range or short range comms and what kind of budget do you have to invest?
Excellent question. If you're interested in short range, either a technican HAM license or even one of the FRS / GPRS (I think it is) or even CB will work.

I have a ham license but I rarely use it. I mainly got it so that I could buy some short range equipment and test it out. I'm not that interested in HF comms, having gotten my fill in the suck.
I wouldn't say that HF sucks. It is different. It is less structured but it also opens up a lot of distance modes that you simply can't get with UHF. One reasons this may appeal to you in terms of preparedness is that with an HF radio and a piece of wire you can easily establish a communication range of about 200 miles or so whereas without a repeater a VHF radio will limit you to a few miles.

What I decided to go with is an inexpensive set of Beugang (or however it's spelled) UHF/VHF radios.
It's Baofeng and that will earn you an eye roll. ;)

With a good external antennae array on top of the truck or outside the house, even with the handhelds I can effectively communicate about 5 miles which gets my circle of friends.

If I connect to the Sauertown mountain relay I can communicate about 30-40 miles.
When it comes back on line, you will probably like W4GG which is on the WFMY tower. You should be able to get a large portion of the central state. You might also like to check out W4GSO and K4ITL Raleigh (if you go out eastward - about Burlington or better).

I should add, you can buy and monitor without a license you just can't transmit on these stations unless an emergency has been declared.
Very true. One thing that I will mention is that if your plan is preparedness, it WILL take more than just getting your license and putting a couple of radios in your faraday cage. You WILL need to practice and learn how to use them as there are a lot of intricacies, especially when it comes to using a repeater and even more so when it comes to communicating via HF.
 
@noway2 i didn't say hf sucks. I said I got my fill of it in the suck meaning the corps lol.

.It's a frustrating and technical form of comms for me at least. I just never had the drive to learn. I'm more of a turn it on and mash the button guy.
 
@noway2 i didn't say hf sucks. I said I got my fill of it in the suck meaning the corps lol.

.It's a frustrating and technical form of comms for me at least. I just never had the drive to learn. I'm more of a turn it on and mash the button guy.
Gotcha, didn't catch the reference. Ruck up and embrace the suck as they say,

I could just see you, driving a hummer, hunched over with half a cigar in your mouth, talking on the NVIS radio. Ha.
 
These nice thing about this style of radio is that you can program in FRS stations and communicate
with people that only have walmart radios as well as monitor most 911 traffic etc.

Please don't take this the wrong way, yes the radio will work on FRS and GRMS frequencies,
however, your ham radio is not FCC Type accepted for use on the above services.
You risk a $10,000 fine and forfeiture of your equipment if you transmit on those frequencies.
You can listen in to any and all frequencies as you wish, that is how we learn.

As licensed amateur radio operators we have to stay within our FCC authorized frequencies,
these frequencies are shared with many other services, Military, Fire, Police, etc etc.
and we can cause interference to these services without realizing it.

73 James
 
Please don't take this the wrong way, yes the radio will work on FRS and GRMS frequencies,
however, your ham radio is not FCC Type accepted for use on the above services.
You risk a $10,000 fine and forfeiture of your equipment if you transmit on those frequencies.
You can listen in to any and all frequencies as you wish, that is how we learn.

As licensed amateur radio operators we have to stay within our FCC authorized frequencies,
these frequencies are shared with many other services, Military, Fire, Police, etc etc.
and we can cause interference to these services without realizing it.

73 James

Yeah that's why I said monitor.
 
I have a cheap little Wouxun handheld in my truck, with a magnet mount antenna on the roof. (see Amazon)
I was listening to the net on Sauratown (145.47) all the way back from Statesville, today. A little scratchy, not bad.
The rig at home is a Yaesu Ft-897, with a tri-band antenna outside. I can talk across the country with it.
My advice: get a cheap handheld from Baeufeng or Wouxun and listen while you study for the test.
After a couple of weeks, start taking the practice tests online. It's pretty easy.
We have several licensed hams under 10 yrs old in the area. If they can do it, so can you!
 
Thanks again for the help I am going to start looking at equipment.

I think I am repeating some others, but...

Better, start studying for the license test :)

Order one of the Baofengs to listen with until you pass it. Maybe a cheap mag mount UHF/VHF antenna if you want to listen in the car.

Equipment, and which license level to go for, will depend on what you want to do with it and how seriously. I bet someone on here or in your local Ham club could show you how HF and their equipment works. Nicer than YouTube videos, but those are great for research too.
 
Studying trying to get my liscense.
You'll get there. It's not too difficult. The big thing to do is take the practice tests online and study the flash cards, especially for any questions you miss. When you can score 85% or better regularly on the practice you should pass without issue.

This last Saturday at the High Point session there was one candidate that failed the test by a fairly wide margin. He plopped down another $12 and wanted to try again, though we discouraged it because of how he had done the first time. His persistence paid off because he passed the second time getting the minimum number required correct.
 
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