Marine Barracks Shooting

My first comment was to say it could not have happened since guns are illegal in DC.....smarminess out of the way, that's no bueno. I see a NJP (at best) on the way.....
 
My first comment was to say it could not have happened since guns are illegal in DC.....smarminess out of the way, that's no bueno. I see a NJP (at best) on the way.....

NJP and discharge will probably be the least they do.
 
So what exactly happened?

The gun should not have been left hot, but there have to be a couple other steps in that chain of failure that led to someone being shot.

Anyone know any further details?
 
it happened during a shift change when weapons are supposed to be unloaded before being passed to the next shift
When do you think most NDs happen? I'd wager during loading and unloading.
 
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That's at 8th & I. I don't know how it is now but that's where they used to have the evening parades in the summer. When I was in it was a difficult post to get a transfer to. The few I knew that went there were pretty squared away. Things change. I think it's the oldest post in the Corps.
 
They are not saying much. According to CBS out of Baltimore Parents posted some things on facebook and that is how his name got out. Twenty years old.
 
My first comment was to say it could not have happened since guns are illegal in DC.....smarminess out of the way, that's no bueno. I see a NJP (at best) on the way.....
NJP...had to google that one! (I google a LOT on this forum!) Lol.
 
Well its been a few decades since I was in the Guard section at 8th & I.. but there are the normal watch standers who are armed and stand a 5 and 3 hour post each day and then you also have "react" which stands a 24 hr shift in the guardhouse.

The oncoming watch standers draw weapons and ammo and load up prior to the shift start and then later the off coming guards unload and clear and turn-in weapons after relief. React is armed 24/7. Shortly before I got there there was a shooting by react...somehow while lying in a bunk his weapon fell out of the holster and discharged into another bunk...no injuries.

Also whiles I was there the Corporal of the Guard pulled a double 24 hr shift and when clearing his M9...racked it and recovered the chambered round...dropped the mag and squeezed off the chambered round into the clearing barrel...no injuries...just his pride and an ass chewing.....it was a sunday morning an the place was deserted so it was covered up as he was a good guy.

The pics in the article at the gate is "Post 1"...the guardhouse is thru that gate to the right rear...so thats where it would have happened..


RIP Marine
Semper Fi...
 
That's at 8th & I. I don't know how it is now but that's where they used to have the evening parades in the summer. When I was in it was a difficult post to get a transfer to. The few I knew that went there were pretty squared away. Things change. I think it's the oldest post in the Corps.

They still do the evening parade on Friday nights there during the summer months. They are also the ones who perform at the Iwo Jima Memorial in Arlington Cemetery on The Marine Corps Birthday. It's a hard post to get - almost as hard as the Army's "Old Guard" at the Tomb of the Unknowns.

Shooting accidents like that occur everywhere even with supposedly "trained" troops. When I was at NAS Jax back in the 60s we had two gate guards playing "quick draw". One dropped his mag and cleared his chamber. The other cleared his chamber and dropped his mag. Then they had a "gun fight" at the main gate. Guess who got killed?
 
Probably more rounds fired as ND than were fired in the invasion of Grenada.
I don't know any veteran who doesn't at least know of an ND incident in their ranks.
My unit had one where one soldier fired a round through someone else's TA-50 pack, the round was fired into a kevlar helmet and ended up trapped in the sleeping bag at the bottom of the pile.
 
Been to the Barracks several times. I remember when the Navy and Marines had their museum across the road at the Navy Yard. The Sunset Parade is phenomenal, I had a friend from college in the Marine Corps Band for a 3-year tour, I would drive up and spend weekends hanging out.

NDs should never, ever, happen, and that it did was a sign of complacency and carelessness.
 
My first comment was to say it could not have happened since guns are illegal in DC.....smarminess out of the way, that's no bueno. I see a NJP (at best) on the way.....

If he gets NJP, he better to buy a lottery ticket because he’s the luckiest SOB in the world. He’ll most certainly go to a general court martial and be looking at a few years in the brig.

Had a Marine at my last battalion that was FAPed out to guard force standing duty on the gates at Lejeune. He was dicking around with his rifle and needed up NDing at killing his friend. I believe he got something like 2-4yrs in the brig.
 
If he gets NJP, he better to buy a lottery ticket because he’s the luckiest SOB in the world. He’ll most certainly go to a general court martial and be looking at a few years in the brig.

Had a Marine at my last battalion that was FAPed out to guard force standing duty on the gates at Lejeune. He was dicking around with his rifle and needed up NDing at killing his friend. I believe he got something like 2-4yrs in the brig.
(Googling FAP....it just never ends, does it? Lol.)
 
I've never seen so much poor weapon handling and safety violations in the CIV world as I have seen in the MIL.

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I've never seen so much poor weapon handling and safety violations in the CIV world as I have seen in the MIL.

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I made the comment once that perhaps this led to the perceived need for a manual safety. Of course I was roasted by most on here about ALL it took was proper training and safeties were unnecessary.

Perhaps ...but perhaps not.
 
If he gets NJP, he better to buy a lottery ticket because he’s the luckiest SOB in the world. He’ll most certainly go to a general court martial and be looking at a few years in the brig.

Had a Marine at my last battalion that was FAPed out to guard force standing duty on the gates at Lejeune. He was dicking around with his rifle and needed up NDing at killing his friend. I believe he got something like 2-4yrs in the brig.
Was it the brig or Portsmouth? I know it has changed substantially but it was a hell of a threat when I was in. I remember a CID investigator got three yard-birds to confess by offering them six, six and a kick or 2-4i Portsmouth.
 
Was it the brig or Portsmouth? I know it has changed substantially but it was a hell of a threat when I was in. I remember a CID investigator got three yard-birds to confess by offering them six, six and a kick or 2-4i Portsmouth.

It was the brig at lejeune.
 
It was the brig at lejeune.
I'm surprised but I guess I shouldn't be. I'm going back over fifty years but then if the sentence was more than 364 days they shipped them out. Brig was much smaller then. It was next to building 37 where the provost marshal was. I was down there about ten years ago and the brig is much, much bigger than the old one.
 
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