New Zeeland Deplorables(?) Ignore gun buy-back scheme

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Two months ago, Reuters breathlessly reported, “New Zealand police expect tens of thousands of firearms to be surrendered by a guns buy-back scheme.” Law enforcement authorities averred that “it could be more.” Pregnant with the expectation that gun owners would trade their firearms for cash, the political class is nonplussed by the results.

Only 530 guns have thus far been turned in to the authorities.

assessed the situation by telling the media that the number of guns expected to be handed over is “a great unknown question,” primarily because the firearms the government is confiscating have never been registered with authorities.


https://www.libertynation.com/kiwis-just-say-no-to-gun-ban/
 
I just don’t see the NZ population bending over to give up their property because a foreigner shoots up a stupid mosque, that these same people probably oppose the presence of anyway. The icing on the cake being that they would be taxed for the funds that would then presumably be used to compensate for their loss. Yeah right.

Except for the dangers of a government that thinks it has lost face and lashes out, ignoring the mandate is probably the best approach. Then again, whose going to want to be the one to try to go forcibly take property from a rural farmer in an area where the sheep outnumber people seven to one. Seems like a perfect place to get fed to the goats.
 
I'm sure the cops will shoot a few folks in "regrettable instances of a person unwilling to obey the law" and the rest of the folks will trot along and play nice.
 
NCLivingBrit said:
I'm sure the cops will shoot a few folks in "regrettable instances of a person unwilling to obey the law" and the rest of the folks will trot along and play nice.
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That’s what the cops would hope would happen, but it could go the opposite way too. Shooting people like that may enrage them more than intimidate them. The problem with playing with fire is that sometimes you get burned.
 
YeeHaa said:
the number of guns expected to be handed over is “a great unknown question,”
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So for all they know, 530 is all there are.

Typical .gov program. They've essentially committed unknown amounts of money to something they have no data on, then are "shocked" when it doesn't meet with their unfounded expectation? Sounds about right.

You know what I hear works well? A bounty. Let neighbors turn in their neighbors for cash and prizes!
 
My Bro has traveled all over the world. He did a motorcycle tour through New Zealand for 2 weeks, (I'm still jealous) and besides remarking about how beautiful the country is, he described the people as extremely outgoing and friendly.
Not a whole lot of places left that still welcome Americans with a smile...

I'd like to think that maybe many of their lawmen are like many of our rural Sheriff's. GovCo says go and stomp on your local citizens and the Sheriff says go pound sand, I'm not doing that. I'm hoping the Kiwi's can find an ally in their local lawmen who consider themselves members of the community before they think of themselves as a robotic agent of the state.
 
noway2 said:
That’s what the cops would hope would happen, but it could go the opposite way too. Shooting people like that may enrage them more than intimidate them. The problem with playing with fire is that sometimes you get burned.
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It would be ironic if sleepy NZ became the first of a new round of tyranny resisters. I've got a bunch of relatives from NZ, last time I saw most of them was the late 80s and they had just hit the late 60s lol
 
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Picture of last day to register legally owned firearms in CT that was circulated back in 2013 but no one ever mentioned that the registration of legally owned firearms was less than 20% (from memory). Same reporting will happen in NZ, the media and .gov will publicize something for the sheep consumption but in reality the firearm turned in, will be a small percentage.

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12151791 said:
Same reporting will happen in NZ, the media and .gov will publicize something for the sheep consumption but in reality the firearm turned in, will be a small percentage.
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That's the need for govco to save face.
 
12151791 said:
Picture of last day to register legally owned firearms in CT that was circulated back in 2013 but no one ever mentioned that the registration of legally owned firearms was less than 20% (from memory). Same reporting will happen in NZ, the media and .gov will publicize something for the sheep consumption but in reality the firearm turned in, will be a small percentage.

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Why does that picture make me think of Nazi Germany? Not just saying that, it really does. People lined up submitting to their own doom. o_O

Like the walking dead.
 
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georgel said:
Why does that picture make me think of Nazi Germany? Not just saying that, it really does. People lined up submitting to their own doom. o_O

Like the walking dead.
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Guten Morgen mein Herr, papieren bitte?
 
NCLivingBrit said:
I'm sure the cops will shoot a few folks in "regrettable instances of a person unwilling to obey the law" and the rest of the folks will trot along and play nice.
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Probably.

At least until people start shooting back.
 
georgel said:
Why does that picture make me think of Nazi Germany? Not just saying that, it really does. People lined up submitting to their own doom. o_O

Like the walking dead.
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Truly amazing, the spell of authority is. People can hate authority, fully understand they are being morally violated by authority - even to the point of willingly marching to their deaths - and still feel obligated to behave within the bounds of every utterance and scribbled down word of that authority.

For a while, America was different. Americans were different. When she was young, her people roared like lions in defense of their Rights and Liberty. Today, most bleat like sheep begging the wolves for the illusion of security.
 
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Guaranteed to Work!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Back in the 90s I used to live in Vancouver WA (no income tax state) which is right across the border from Portland OR (no sales tax state). People used to drive over the river to shop and avoid WA's sales tax. They were "losing" so much revenue to cross border shoppers that the .gov started circulating flyers in the neighborhoods right on the edge. If you saw your neighbors brining home "large ticket items" you could turn them in (call the number, this was the 90s) and the cops would come investigate and if they were found to be buying stuff out of state you would get a reward.

I'm not exactly sure what the crime was, since "large ticket items" presumably meant stuff like appliances and not large bricks of black tar heroin, but there it was. Don't recall ever hearing anyone caught up in the scheme, but fear probably kept some in line.


EDIT: Use Tax, same as any other .gov that can't tax cross-state commerce they make something else up.

https://www.ntanet.org/NTJ/63/1/ntj-v63n01p7-32-increasing-tax-compliance-washington.pdf
 
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Jayne said:
EDIT: Use Tax, same as any other .gov that can't tax cross-state commerce they make something else up.
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Years ago, when they started this nonsense of wanting you to declare your tax free purchases and pay up, I would declare zero knowing it was incorrect but didn’t have any records either way. Now, that some places charge it, which I tend to avoid in preference of ones that don’t, I still declare zero but the records are even more muddy.
 
Jayne said:
Back in the 90s I used to live in Vancouver WA (no income tax state) which is right across the border from Portland OR (no sales tax state). People used to drive over the river to shop and avoid WA's sales tax. They were "losing" so much revenue to cross border shoppers that the .gov started circulating flyers in the neighborhoods right on the edge. If you saw your neighbors brining home "large ticket items" you could turn them in (call the number, this was the 90s) and the cops would come investigate and if they were found to be buying stuff out of state you would get a reward.

I'm not exactly sure what the crime was, since "large ticket items" presumably meant stuff like appliances and not large bricks of black tar heroin, but there it was. Don't recall ever hearing anyone caught up in the scheme, but fear probably kept some in line.


EDIT: Use Tax, same as any other .gov that can't tax cross-state commerce they make something else up.

https://www.ntanet.org/NTJ/63/1/ntj-v63n01p7-32-increasing-tax-compliance-washington.pdf
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noway2 said:
Years ago, when they started this nonsense of wanting you to declare your tax free purchases and pay up, I would declare zero knowing it was incorrect but didn’t have any records either way. Now, that some places charge it, which I tend to avoid in preference of ones that don’t, I still declare zero but the records are even more muddy.
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It's amazing how folks accept a gang of thieves dictating how, for what, and how much will be stolen.....up to and to the point of snitching on their neighbors for not being victimized equally.

Even more absurd that a significant portion of the population cheers on the armed muscle for terrorizing folks into compliance, or kidnapping or killing for non-compliance.

And then even go so far as to ridicule the person who raises their hand and says "This is wrong and immoral."
 
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SPM said:
It's amazing how folks accept a gang of thieves dictating how, for what, and how much will be stolen.....up to and to the point of snitching on their neighbors for not being victimized equally.
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Those who rob Peter to pay Paul will always have the support of Paul. (said someone famous)
 
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Jayne said:
Those who rob Peter to pay Paul will always have the support of Paul. (said someone famous)
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Yeah, that's true. A friend of mine always said: "if you keep robbing Peter to pay Paul, eventually Peter gets really pissed off!"
 
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