Shooting at California Food Festival

CZfool68 said:
Still pretty thin. This guy must be the least active 19 year old in the world on social media.
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I totally agree that it is thin, however the MSM is still NOT including the Iranian thoughts / post.

Normal people know we have a "People Problem" and not a gun problem.

Decades of kids being raised where "Everyone gets A trophy" , playing X-Box / Play Station, Society Throwing Our Moral Compass down the DRAIN in Favor of a "Neutral Secularism Culture" has brought us the current results.
 
For someone who idolized Ragnar the Redbeard, he certainly was NOT right thru might lol. I guess shooting little kids like fish in a barrel must've fulfilled some Shiite or Nambla Fantasy his grandfather had.
 
gc70 said:
Over the weekend:
CA festival: 3 dead and 12 wounded
Baltimore: 6 dead and 13 wounded
Chicago: 8 dead and 40 wounded​

The media tries to sell more gun control when an isolated shooting like the one in California occurs, but they ignore the larger problem recurring weekly in big cities that already have draconian gun control laws.
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Not to mention the 14 overdose deaths in Wisconsin this past weekend!
 
• A federal law enforcement official told The Chronicle that Legan legally bought a WASR-10 semiautomatic rifle at Big Mikes Gun and Ammo in Fallon, Nev., on July 9, less than three weeks before Sunday’s shooting. However, the gun would be considered illegal when brought into the state of California. Legan also purchased a Remington 870 shotgun on July 1 at a gun shop in Reno, the source said. That gun would be legal in California.
 
georgel said:
• A federal law enforcement official told The Chronicle that Legan legally bought a WASR-10 semiautomatic rifle at Big Mikes Gun and Ammo in Fallon, Nev., on July 9, less than three weeks before Sunday’s shooting. However, the gun would be considered illegal when brought into the state of California. Legan also purchased a Remington 870 shotgun on July 1 at a gun shop in Reno, the source said. That gun would be legal in California.
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Interesting. No way would I sell a WASR to a CA resident. I won't sell any firearm to a CA resident unless I am shipping it to a CA FFL.

Hope that shop doesn't get railroaded like the one that sold Adam Lanza's mom her guns.
 
georgel said:
• A federal law enforcement official told The Chronicle that Legan legally bought a WASR-10 semiautomatic rifle at Big Mikes Gun and Ammo in Fallon, Nev., on July 9, less than three weeks before Sunday’s shooting. However, the gun would be considered illegal when brought into the state of California. Legan also purchased a Remington 870 shotgun on July 1 at a gun shop in Reno, the source said. That gun would be legal in California.
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So much for the CA ten day waiting period.
 
If he was a CA resident and bought the gun in NV using his CA ID then the sale was Illegal and the dealer should be hammered "
Purchase Outside State of Residency - A person 18 years of age or older may purchase a long gun anywhere U.S.A. from a:

1) FFL if purchased in person at the FFL’s premises, or in person from an FFL at a gun show in a State where the FFL is licensed, and if the sale is lawful in both States, §§ 922 (b)(1) & (b)(3)(A)."
 
cubrock said:
Interesting. No way would I sell a WASR to a CA resident. I won't sell any firearm to a CA resident unless I am shipping it to a CA FFL.
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Was the shooter a California resident?

The shooter's family lives in Gilroy, but reports say he had not lived there in over a year. The local police chief said the shooter had been living with relatives in Nevada until recently. It's not a big deal to show up at a DMV office and exchange a driver's license from another state. Once you have a driver's license, you are basically viewed as a resident of that state.
 
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gc70 said:
Was the shooter a California resident?

The shooter's family lives in Gilroy, but reports say he had not lived there in over a year. The local police chief said the shooter had been living with relatives in Nevada until recently. It's not a big deal to show up at a DMV office and exchange a driver's license from another state. Once you have a driver's license, you are basically viewed as a resident of that state.
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Gotcha. I was assuming he was a CA resident. You may be right about his being a NV resident.
 
vaskeet said:
If he was a CA resident and bought the gun in NV using his CA ID then the sale was Illegal and the dealer should be hammered "
Purchase Outside State of Residency - A person 18 years of age or older may purchase a long gun anywhere U.S.A. from a:

1) FFL if purchased in person at the FFL’s premises, or in person from an FFL at a gun show in a State where the FFL is licensed, and if the sale is lawful in both States, §§ 922 (b)(1) & (b)(3)(A)."
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Wow, really? Such animosity over laws that many if us shouldn't even exist anyway? o_O
 
gc70 said:
Was the shooter a California resident?

The shooter's family lives in Gilroy, but reports say he had not lived there in over a year. The local police chief said the shooter had been living with relatives in Nevada until recently. It's not a big deal to show up at a DMV office and exchange a driver's license from another state. Once you have a driver's license, you are basically viewed as a resident of that state.
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The FBI and local authorities search an apartment in Walker Lake, NV where the shooter supposedly was living. Walker Lake is about 100 SE of Reno (approx 300 east of Gilroy).

IF the POS bought the gun of a NV DL he as far as known now did so legally (other factors might pop up like sealed juvenile record, drug usage or such). If that was the case when he crossed the NV/CA border with it and other items (mags and ammo) he did break a fair amount of CA gun laws while technically not the a Federal interstate purchase laws.
 
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Every dealer that does not follow the law lets the antis say that he Legally bought the gun and that we need more laws
 
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vaskeet said:
Every dealer that does not follow the law lets the antis say that he Legally bought the gun and that we need more laws
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It should be the responsibility of the out of state party to ensure they comply with the laws of their state of residence. Similarly, it should not be the responsibility of the out of state dealer.

Nobody should comply with infringement BS laws.
 
NCFubar said:
The FBI and local authorities search an apartment in Walker Lake, NV where the shooter supposedly was living. Walker Lake is about 100 SE of Reno (approx 300 east of Gilroy).

IF the POS bought the gun of a NV DL he as far as known now did so legally (other factors might pop up like sealed juvenile record, drug usage or such). If that was the case when he crossed the NV/CA border with it and other items (mags and ammo) he did break a fair amount of CA gun laws while technically not the a Federal interstate purchase laws.
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Absolutely correct. And that would mean the shooter broke a variety of laws rather than the possibility the FFL broke the law with an illegal sale.
 
SPM said:
Make no mistake, @vaskeet is decidedly on the "I support the Second Amendment, but..." side of the argument.
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I am on the if you don't like the law work to change it side but someone who breaks the law (if this dealer did) helps the antis by giving them a excuse (which they don't need) to scream "see he legally bought the gun (and most people don't know any different) so we need more laws to prevent him from getting a gun"
I have a tough skin so call me what you like
 
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The dealer is/should be responsible for due diligence, i.e. phone-in background check to comply with Fed law and not selling to someone who seems in any way suspicious, illegal, stoned, or whose ID description is obviously another person. Think: CYA. Protect oneself and one's business.

The dealer is/should not be liable for anything done by the customer or with the firearm after the sale -- unless there is clear evidence that the dealer knowingly sold to a prohibited person.

Infingements? Yep. But until we figure out how to get them removed ( or after SHTF), there are legalities that must be dealt with.
 
Windini said:
The dealer is/should be responsible for due diligence, i.e. phone-in background check to comply with Fed law and not selling to someone who seems in any way suspicious, illegal, stoned, or whose ID description is obviously another person. Think: CYA. Protect oneself and one's business.

The dealer is/should not be liable for anything done by the customer or with the firearm after the sale -- unless there is clear evidence that the dealer knowingly sold to a prohibited person.

Infingements? Yep. But until we figure out how to get them removed ( or after SHTF), there are legalities that must be dealt with.
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Including checking to see (if he used a CA ID ) that the sale is Legal in CA. if he used a NV ID the dealer did nothing wrong
 
As pointed out on Tucker on Fox, the demand for GUN CONTROL and an ASSAULT WEAPON BAN
was in full force before any of the details of the active shooter incident were known.
All of these events are in 'GUN FREE ZONES'.
 
vaskeet said:
I am on the if you don't like the law work to change it side but someone who breaks the law (if this dealer did) helps the antis by giving them a excuse (which they don't need) to scream "see he legally bought the gun (and most people don't know any different) so we need more laws to prevent him from getting a gun"
I have a tough skin so call me what you like
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That’s a whole lot of words to say exactly what I said.
 
vaskeet said:
Every dealer that does not follow the law lets the antis say that he Legally bought the gun and that we need more laws
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Not following your logic. If the dealer doesn't comply to the law, how do more laws help? If the dealer did not comply to the law, then suspect did NOT buy the gun legally. o_O
 
georgel said:
Not following your logic. If the dealer doesn't comply to the law, how do more laws help? If the dealer did not comply to the law, then suspect did NOT buy the gun legally. o_O
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The media is saying that he went to NV to buy the gun because the laws there are easier and that he bought the gun legally but if he was a CA resident with a CA ID and the dealer sold it to him it was not a legal saleIf yiuy read I said that it allows the antis to say we need more laws
 
vaskeet said:
The media is saying that he went to NV to buy the gun because the laws there are easier and that he bought the gun legally but if he was a CA resident with a CA ID and the dealer sold it to him it was not a legal saleIf yiuy read I said that it allows the antis to say we need more laws
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And the same crowd thinks some stupid Hawaiian fag in a black dress has jurisdiction to make rulings binding over the entire country. It’s not the responsibility of a store in NV to uphold CA “law”.
 
vaskeet said:
The media is saying that he went to NV to buy the gun because
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Yup, well this is the same MSM that is excluding the fact that this 19 year old posted information about one of his Idols, Ali Asghar Vahabzadeh, Legan’s maternal grandfather.

An Iranian source told LauraLoomer.us that anybody who idolizes Ali Asghar – Legan’s grandfather’s namesake – would view themselves as a Shia zealot to Islam.

Legan’s grandfather’s namesake.jpg

https://lauraloomer.us/2019/07/29/b...th-islamic-imagery-on-instagram/#.XT9mx-hKhPY

So, he went to NV?
It's entirely possible & probable that he was already a Legal resident of Nevada and went to Kalifornia to visit with his other family members.
 
A newly released search warrant suggests Santino Legan was preparing for a large-scale attack. In searching the suspect's Nevada home Monday, investigators say they found a bulletproof vest, gas mask, knife and gun pamphlets. The San Francisco Chronicle reports they also found reading materials on radical Islam and white supremacy and, according to one of his brothers, he was a "loner."
 
BudE said:
It was pretty quick because they had a large presence on site.
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I don't mean to take away from these three guys who went after a dickhead with a rifle while they had only handguns. Good on them. However, they got there fast because they were there... but they got there.
 
georgel said:
they also found reading materials on radical Islam and white supremacy
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What case will be made from what we are hearing?
He was a radical Islamic white supremacist who left an online post about how he didn’t like the area being overrun with mixed race Hispanics and white people?
 
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georgel said:
. In searching the suspect's Nevada home Monday
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sorta solves the mystery how he legally bought the rifle then

odd though, he was able to import it into CA with minimal trouble. wonder how you apply for the permit to do that? /sarc
 
Jayne said:

sorta solves the mystery how he legally bought the rifle then

odd though, he was able to import it into CA with minimal trouble. wonder how you apply for the permit to do that? /sarc
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Another failure of the magic barrier around CA?
 
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noway2 said:
Another failure of the magic barrier around CA?
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They need a wall...
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How long before some idiot(s) in Sacramento decides to put up border crossings and form the Cali Border Patrol ... like the agricultural inspection types ... to make Commiefornia more communistic.

I’m joking about that but some traffic stops at the NV/CA border do turn into “Mind if I search your vehicle?” all in the name of safety.
 
Wondering if someone finally got smart and wiped the social media history before the shooting? Still pretty quiet about this guy huh? Weird.
 
CZfool68 said:
Still pretty quiet about this guy huh? Weird.
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You Serious?,,,?

The following does NOT fit the Prescribed Narrative. Coverage was scrubbed from local & national news tonight as well.


georgel said:
A newly released search warrant suggests Santino Legan was preparing for a large-scale attack. In searching the suspect's Nevada home Monday, investigators say they found a bulletproof vest, gas mask, knife and gun pamphlets. The San Francisco Chronicle reports they also found reading materials on radical Islam and white supremacy and, according to one of his brothers, he was a "loner."
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thecarman said:
He was a radical Islamic white supremacist who left an online post about how he didn’t like the area being overrun with mixed race Hispanics and white people?
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