Red Dots are only good for close engagement. LOL ;)

JBoyette said:
I have no issue with this site or the people. I have less time and willingness to diverge in conversations that are well posted and talked about already in-depth and figured out. This issue I have is the death knell for forums in general that are unique it a single topic. I get that the people come and go in waves of interest but for someone like you and me, we can copy-paste responses and just change the greeting and never miss a beat.
Due to this fact, I like a crackhead have a habit to beat, it's logging in to this site and others like this one. I gain no value from it other than finding out about a few matches that are new. The beating of the habit is the death spin for such places.
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Bro, you start by saying "I have no issue with this site or the people" and then go on to explain the multiple things you have against this site and its people.

Bud, if you aren't getting any value, then by all means roll on, or just swing in and check the BST. This place is a community, we don't all like each other all the time, but most of us have met one another, or met someone who met someone on the forum. >This< isn't an "industry" as you go on to describe it. That's kinda what has always set this place apart from multiple other shooting forums.

If you see a topic that you feel has been beaten to death, then remember that we get new people every day. People who may not have been a part of the shooting community before. So when they ask a question, or bring up a topic that >you< may have seen 1,000 times, it may well be their first. You have a unique ability to add to the discussion through your time behind the trigger in combat as well as your time behind the trigger in training classes. Heck, even some topics that have been beaten to death sometimes deserve a bit of a resurrection as new experience/technology/techniques come into play.
 
Everybody remember:
He proclaimed he is RIGHT 3 out of 4 times.. (75%)

If he put as much quality time into developing and running a business in the "industry",
He would have less time to post toxic crap here...


Do I smell a ban-hammer cookin'??
 
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There are exactly two people on this forum who loose their minds, manners, and adult sensibilities whenever a Larry Vickers training video is posted here.

Fer cryin’ out loud, just scroll on by. If you’ve got nothing nice or useful to say, then DON’T SAY IT.

sheesh
 
I’ve met John, he’s a good guy.

Oh, and since you mention it, no, I didn’t get any tuna.
 
I have too. Took one his classes and he is a good guy.
 
B00ger said:
If you see a topic that you feel has been beaten to death, then remember that we get new people every day. People who may not have been a part of the shooting community before. So when they ask a question, or bring up a topic that >you< may have seen 1,000 times, it may well be their first.
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Ex-act-ly...

As the mod in most of the NFA sections on ARF, wanna guess how many “new” questions get asked a week? Percentage wise I’m guessing it’s <5%. But somebody will still take the time to answer them. Due to the popularity of that site we have a LOT of people new to the NFA world.

Additionally, if any of you ever stopped by the THSF table when I used to work the gun shows in Charlotte, you would’ve figured out I could’ve recorded the answers to about a half-dozen questions and just played it on a loop.

But this forum does a great job of trying to help everybody get an answer. I will admit ARF does a decent job in the NFA sections...but won’t even attempt to speak to the Gen Disc or even “regular” handgun/rifle sections.
 
B00ger said:
If you see a topic that you feel has been beaten to death, then remember that we get new people every day. People who may not have been a part of the shooting community before. So when they ask a question, or bring up a topic that >you< may have seen 1,000 times, it may well be their first. You have a unique ability to add to the discussion through your time behind the trigger in combat as well as your time behind the trigger in training classes. Heck, even some topics that have been beaten to death sometimes deserve a bit of a resurrection as new experience/technology/techniques come into play.
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Well said...……………….
 
NCFubar said:
Ding - ding - ding ... I am pretty much not likely to be in a situation (combat situation) where I’d be targeting things at those distances and if I did I better damn well make sure of what I’m targeting!
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I've simplified things for myself and decided to shoot subs out to 200 which has its own challenges but can be done at most outdoor ranges, is much cheaper, and at least could be a practical skill here in the southeast compared to long range shooting.
 
Apex Defense Group said:
No I hit them. It is wasted shots otherwise. I will be glad to tag some recent students who watched me do it on multiple classes.
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I totally believe it. Especially if it's a shot you often attempt/do.

I think it's interesting and fun to, after regular range time, dedicate a mag or two to some really tough pistol precision shots. Really push it out there and really try.
I think most of us just don't attempt it much. And it's surprising how much a pistol can do.

Super fun, too. Long range hits are so satisfying with a pistol.
 
NKD said:
I totally believe it. Especially if it's a shot you often attempt/do.

I think it's interesting and fun to, after regular range time, dedicate a mag or two to some really tough pistol precision shots. Really push it out there and really try.
I think most of us just don't attempt it much. And it's surprising how much a pistol can do.

Super fun, too. Long range hits are so satisfying with a pistol.
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A few years ago, I was out shooting with my dad and a friend...we were plinking clay pigeons at 100 yards with various rifles just for giggles. Towards the end I pulled out my new at the time Ruger SR1911, fired two shots and crashed a pigeon. Cleared the pistol, turned to my folks and said "Ending that on a high note" and didn't shoot it again that day.
 
NKD said:
I totally believe it. Especially if it's a shot you often attempt/do.

I think it's interesting and fun to, after regular range time, dedicate a mag or two to some really tough pistol precision shots. Really push it out there and really try.
I think most of us just don't attempt it much. And it's surprising how much a pistol can do.

Super fun, too. Long range hits are so satisfying with a pistol.
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Exactly. Is that a realistic civilian engagement distance with a pistol? No. But it's so satisfying. Plus it makes those 10 yard man size shots just a little easier. Haha. Its always good to push our limits, and push our equipment to see what we, and it can do, as it builds confidence and gives you a better understanding.
 
Apex Defense Group said:
Exactly. Is that a realistic civilian engagement distance with a pistol? No. But it's so satisfying. Plus it makes those 10 yard man size shots just a little easier. Haha. Its always good to push our limits, and push our equipment to see what we, and it can do, as it builds confidence and gives you a better understanding.
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At my old range in KY they has a mansized steel target set at 150 yards give or take. I ended many a range session shooting it will a BHP or 1911. It was always satisfying to hear that steel ring. Once you figured out the hold over for a particular gun and the load you were shooting it was very doable. I place clay pigeons at 50 yards where I shoot these days. It is always fun to hit them with a pistol while people are trying to get their rifles on paper on the other side of the range. That said 90% of my pistol shooting is done inside 15 yards because that is the realistic distance I most likely will end up using it.
 
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wvsig said:
At my old range in KY they has a mansized steel target set at 150 yards give or take. I ended many a range session shooting it will a BHP or 1911. It was always satisfying to hear that steel ring. Once you figured out the hold over for a particular gun and the load you were shooting it was very doable. I place clay pigeons at 50 yards where I shoot these days. It is always fun to hit them with a pistol while people are trying to get their rifles on paper on the other side of the range. That said 90% of my pistol shooting is done inside 15 yards because that is the realistic distance I most likely will end up using it.
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Hahaha exactly. You get some great looks! Or when they are missing with a rifle at 100, you pull a handgun and hit it first lol.
 
Apex Defense Group said:
Hahaha exactly. You get some great looks! Or when they are missing with a rifle at 100, you pull a handgun and hit it first lol.
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I always laughed when I would shoot that steel at 150 yards and it would ring and someone with amplified electronic ears would look over and see me holding a handgun. First words out of their mouth were always did you just hit that with that. LMAO
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Several years ago we were at the 100 yard range at Battery Oaks and I had my old Model 10 and was shooting the steel and hitting it. It took a couple of rounds to learn how to hold but after that it was fairly easy. Oh, I was shooting DA, too.
 
BowWow said:
………. IIRC part of rifle qualification for the Marines included hitting silhouettes at 500 or 600 meters?? That was with iron sights, no optics.
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That's exactly right. In 1972 at Parris Island the final portion of rifle qual was 10 rounds at 500 yards. I do believe it was a 20" A2 with iron sights. For Super Squad competition we shot 600 with iron. I hated it but did pretty good. I always shot expert for 23 years because I knew I could.

Today, after cataracts, detached retinas and advanced ugly I can barely find the front sight post.

I am struggling now learning how to shoot with glass. I have a Trijicon TR24-3 on one of my ARs and it's taken a while to get used to it but life is good now. I have an inexpensive red dot on the other that I am still fighting with it though.I

Sorry for rambling.
 
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