I Was A Gun Confiscator: Scenes From a Gun Confiscation

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I was Number 1 on the stack, with the responsibility to ram the door immediately to clear the way for the rest of the team to enter and apprehend the suspect. To make a long story short(er), we knocked this guy’s door down, tackled and cuffed him, and took his guns…based on a single complaint from a single witness. No criminal history. No psychological evaluation. No judge. No warrant.

I don’t recall exactly how things were resolved post-incident, except for some generalities. I remember that the man ended up being released, perhaps after agreeing to a psychological evaluation. I honestly don’t remember, except that he got to go home in fairly short order. I don’t even think he was criminally charged with anything. The 14 guns we confiscated from him were eventually returned; I think it took about a week or so. Basically, it ended up being a big nothingburger.

What I do remember is that we heard no ranting coming from his apartment before we went in, and he was genuinely surprised when his door came down that night; I remember him standing in his apartment with his hands up saying, “What’s going on, fellas?” as our team sergeant tackled him.

But the overriding memory is of how easily our police department leaders…based on the uncorroborated statement of a single witness…made the decision to enter this man’s home without a warrant, to deprive him of his freedom, and to seize his property. If police conduct of this sort bothers you, then consider what will happen when police departments are given a virtual green light* with red flag laws.


https://www.deltabravocharlie.com/home/i-was-a-gun-confiscator


https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/scenes-from-a-gun-confiscation/


From commits;

We have a crazy neighbor. Come to learn, he’s been pointing handguns at people over parking spaces for years, and caused 3 homeowners to sell and move. The last episode I witnessed and attempted to mediate. (No skin in the game. I only park on my private property.)
4am one morning, police kicked my front door off the hinges of the home I own, waking me with screams of “Where are your gun?!!!” while pointing their guns in my face.
After being polite, cooperative, and telling that I have no record, and proving numbers of police brass that could vouch for my character, they tore apart my home for 5 hours with no explanation. Use your worst imagination, and that’s what it was like.
Turns out, the crazy neighbor filed a report claiming watched me steal a less than $100 car part from his vehicle, and that I am the neighborhood drug addict, who doesn’t work and steals from the neighbors. Meanwhile, I’ve never been high, have no record, own a successful business, and have zero debt or mortgage, and even hold a conceal carry permit in a large Democrat city.

They left my door and door frame destroyed, expensive items in my home broken, and had me assuming for 5 hours that I had unknowingly killed someone with my vehicle and that I was about to spend my life in prison. (Only crime I could imagine being charged with).

I know he belongs in prison for what he did to me, and I deserve compensation.
Any advice on what I should do before this lunatic does this to someone else, or worse?
The detectives were as rude as you can imagine after clearing me, refused to admit they made a mistake or even apologize, and told me I had zero recourse against the false accuser or the city.
 
I suspect it will lead to a lot of bloodshed.
Unfortunately, that’s what’s it’s going to take to put a stop to this. Reason and force are the only two ways to influence others. When they believe you using force is not an option, they have no cause to be reasonable.

We hear the cops complain that people are at war with them. Interesting, because it looks like they’ve declared war on the People with this sort of crap. If they think people are at war with them now, just wait.
 
So he admits he was another John Demjanjuk. Just "following" orders? As much as I hear all the praise for the "thin blue line", do you think any will stop and think about what they are about to do? I'm assuming that there is a briefing before any move like this, but just how much information about the "charges" or accused crime do the officers know? Are LEO's as respectable and noble ans some think? Or are they just ordinary people there for a paycheck? What could this one cop in the posted article have done? Could he have refused to go? Or would he have lost his job and career? When this happens more and more, and it will, will it turn a majority of falsely accused persons into paranoid, anti-state patrons? It's kinda shitty that on top of life's other problems and concern, now I have to think what happens if I'm swatted with a red flag law.
 
I swear I believe they do these for the adrenaline rush.The wanna be seal team
Six officers should join the military and go do this shit in Afghanistan.
There was no legitimate reason to raid this guy except to get their jollies,
In a discussion on this subject, one former cop admitted that it was fun to do this. It’s fun, because unlike in foreign countries the people don’t typically shoot back. I’ve been told that clearing Burka Burka from his home is both exhilarating and subject to a low survival rate.
 
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Like I told people you can legally be killed over a seat belt ticket.
Indeed. I remember when @tanstaafl72555 pointed this out, it was like a lightbulb went off. Anytime you pass a “law” you are authorizing others to go out and enforce it via death if necessary. It is the principle that you are a subject of the State, who must unconditionally obey or else. If you strip away all the religious, yes it is a form of religion based on faith and belief, rituals of voting, swearing, symbology and icons, etc, strip, it all away and you are left with something that is identical to any other criminal gang of thugs and bullies.
 
Indeed. I remember when @tanstaafl72555 pointed this out, it was like a lightbulb went off. Anytime you pass a “law” you are authorizing others to go out and enforce it via death if necessary. It is the principle that you are a subject of the State, who must unconditionally obey or else. If you strip away all the religious, yes it is a form of religion based on faith and belief, rituals of voting, swearing, symbology and icons, etc, strip, it all away and you are left with something that is identical to any other criminal gang of thugs and bullies.

Do you remember where tans talked about this. I always like to read his views on things.
 
Do you remember where tans talked about this. I always like to read his views on things.
Not off hand, it was a couple of months ago. Perhaps since I tagged him in the post he’ll see the bat signal and chime in.
 
Agreed, doesn’t matter if your dead though. Good attorney can’t help with that.
True. The point I was trying to make is the detective is full of sh*t. But the whole story demonstrates that.
 
I do know they are not as fond when it comes to raiding a 2 story home. Once they are in no one wants to be the first one upstairs. All our bedroom are upstairs, with a wife and 2 teenage daughters a criminal would play hell trying to get up those stairs.
 
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All our bedroom are upstairs, with a wife and 2 teenage daughters a criminal would play hell trying to get up those stairs.
From the other side, unless your floor is bulletproof and you have a good escape route in case of fire, you might be not as hard target upstairs as it looks like. :)
 
From the other side, unless your floor is bulletproof and you have a good escape route in case of fire, you might be not as hard target upstairs as it looks like. :)
We have three deployable rope ladders upstairs, plus the rooms in the front have a lower porch and climb out onto. I have conceded in a Gun battle I will have to fight my way out
 
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