P365 SAS

@18DAI
Has your Sig rep shown you guys one of these yet?
 
Sorry Jeppo, but our lyin POS Sig rep hasn't even been seen since April. AND we don't care if we ever see him again. We just got the Email on these yesterday.

What value a sighting system like that and no front sight, combined with porting, provides on a sub compact concealment pistol, is beyond me.

Most of the folks I see buying these small guns have a hard time hitting paper with hi viz sights. Doesn't appeal to me. But I bet Sig is real proud of it and I expect if we get any they will have a high MSRP. :) Regards 18DAI

Edited to add: We did get in three X5 320 Legion guns. I sent you a text. Those are pretty nice pistols! With pretty good triggers.........for a striker fired plastic gun. ;)
 
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The P365 was too small for me BEFORE they started screwing with it.
 
Saw this when we were at their plant in July. I feel like it's a great concept.
 
...this thing looks like an answer in search of a question.

...and yet now I have to have one. <snicker>

Is that sight really much different from carry optics red- or green-dot? I've never shot carry optics, so this is a serious question. I realize the back part of the slide would obscure the target, but it looks like it might be an effective target-focused, sights-blurred combat tactic a lot like Dean Brevit claims he teaches/taught.
 
That would seem to require some rather close attention to the sights to get them aligned. Can you see both the dot and the circle at the same time when they are not aligned?
 
My issue with this gun is that I believe one would have to carry no other gun. I donā€™t think Iā€™d ever be capable of sometimes looking for the front sight and sometimes not. :confused:
 
Well thatā€™s Sig for you. I Just donā€™t like their pistols and never have. I have owned a few and no longer have them.
 
Seems like they tried to update the gutter sight concept. I would be interested in shooting that next to a standard sighted 365, but not enough to buy one to try it.
 
See rear sights like that come in on guns sometimes. Don't know about shooting but they present rather quickly to me on smiths and Springfields. Not so much on other guns.
 
SAS, thankfully not Same As Steel. I am Very interested in shooting any gun with this sight set up. Somebody bring one next month!!! We have had several guns here with No sights and they are ok for Me INSIDE 7 yards. I will reserve personal judgement until I shoot this system. On the surface they look interesting. I try to inspect anything that Can have an end result of improved performance. It has been my experience that things like this can be fine for New Shooters , us folks stuck in our habits...not so much. Maybe a set of those on one of our dedicated Glock .22s would be worth trying with new shooters.
 
"with this setup you have to place the dot in the center of the circle so you are essentially alining 2 sights."

10 bucks says the sight(s) on that platform cover a 6" plate at 5-7 yards.

How ya gonna hit it if you can't see it??
 
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Thanks for the info!

I'm not arguing, however my point is, take away that aprox. 3'x4' rectangle "backer" and shoot at the 12" plate @ 25 yards. I would bet on a different outcome.

If he cant see the 12" target at 25 yards, he is shooting "center" of the paper backer. Its all he can see for reference.


@BatteryOaksBilly new "Wizard" target proves this over and over.
When the large "boxy" outer visual reference is taken away, it becomes inherently harder to make the accurate shot on a plate or IPSC/IDPA "A" zone.
 
Almost like looking thru a straw.
By the by....we have done this.....it works. This sight should remedy front sight high or low and right to left in the rear sight. If you think about it, using iron pistol sights leave an enormous room for error. Think about this a .125 front sight with a man having a 32 inch sleeve cover 17 INCHES at 50 yards. 22 inches when the light bars on either side are figured in. Now if you start moving that front blade a couple thousands right..left..up..down, we're talking feet off target. This sight, like the straw, eleminates the opportunity of human error.
I am busting to know for myself!!
 
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I watched a video on this sighting system yesterday by Phil Strayer. He is a well-known competition shooter from IDPA and now works for Sig the way he explained it is that it's a rear circle and a small dot. When the dot is in the circle the sight is lined up. He was shooting 10 inch steel plates at 15 yards at a very rapid pace and hit them all. He also did rapid fire on another plate and all shots were clustered tightly in a very small group. .To me it looks like a very innovative system.I for one would like to shoot one . . People in general are going to feel like something new is not going to work they had to be proven and shown in person at least that's the way I feel .you If get in a shooting situation most of it is going to be done within three to five yards or 3 to 5 feet so mostly the only thing you have to do is point and shoot it weather it has front sights or not. Colt made a 1911 with no sights .All it had was a little u-shaped rail down through the middle of the slide and people bought the hell out of them. Just because it had a Colt on it.I personally did not like it. My take off on this sighting system is don't be too fast to judge it. Try it out and then be either positive or negative in your judgement:rolleyes:
 
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My issue with this gun is that I believe one would have to carry no other gun. I donā€™t think Iā€™d ever be capable of sometimes looking for the front sight and sometimes not. :confused:
A real "shooter" can pick up any gun and hit the intended Target. Remember the TV show from a couple years ago. Chris Tilley ,who has won pistol shooting competitions all over the world and who's father owns the indoor range on Tryon road in Raleigh got eliminated because he could not shoot all the guns that were used in the show. He was used to shooting expensive competition guns that were made just for him. They gave him a 1911 and he completely missed the target. I love shooting any and all handguns that are well made and not a POS like a Hi-point. But I did shoot a 45 Hi-point one and was shocked at the tight group I shot.I grew up shooting revolvers and shoot them well . I have been shooting semi auto pistols since the PD went to them. Still have not mastered them. But still qualifya 96 to 100% yearly. But still prefer a revolver . My edc is a Sig p365. and the first time I shot it was during last year's qualifications. Daytime score was 99% and night time was 100%. If you want to try something fun and get you blood pumping put tape on your front sight so you can't see it then go to shoot it at 3,5,7 and 10 yards .I think you might be surprised at how you do.
 
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You buy it...

Iā€™ll try it. :D
I'm going to try it out but I don't think I'd buy it. That gun is designed to be snag free. I don't pocket carry and have never had a handgun snag on clothing when drawing from concealment..Therefore I have the p365 ,shoot it well so I don't need another one. If I don't have A 365 I would consider buying the SAS model
 
If you want to try something fun and get you blood pumping put tape on your front sight so you can't see it then go to shoot it at 3,5,7 and 10 yards .I
Ole Pard, I have shown dozens of people out to 7 yards that with proper Presentation they can get hits while looking back at ME instead of the target. Maybe some will pipe up and tell how easy this is.
 
Ole Pard, I have shown dozens of people out to 7 yards that with proper Presentation they can get hits while looking back at ME instead of the target. Maybe some will pipe up and tell how easy this is.
I have two close friends that have been involved in shootings..... both came out on the good side of things and stopped the threat permanently. Neither one of them remember looking at the sights, just the fella that was trying to keep them from making it home to their families.
 
Ole Pard, I have shown dozens of people out to 7 yards that with proper Presentation they can get hits while looking back at ME instead of the target. Maybe some will pipe up and tell how easy this is.

A big league baseball pitcher can hit a 20"x30" target repeatedly from 60 feet (20 yards for you euro pee ons), with no laser or crosshairs, so yeah.
 
Meanwhile, Iā€™ll bet any one of the people on this forum could look at a man-sized target 15 yards away, close our eyes, draw and hit the target.

Absolutely.

To be far..... there are only about 450 of those guys in the world.

There's a lot more than that.

My personal point is, I don't need a sniper pistol. If you need breathing lessons for a 7 yard shot, you might want to stay home. This is my opinion, and I'm pretty dumb.
 
I actually held one yesterday. Played with it for about 10 minutes. Guess what? I want one. Academy has them for $499,but it has a grey frame and a black slide .I want all black . I will be getting one in the near future......
 
I actually held one yesterday. Played with it for about 10 minutes. Guess what? I want one. Academy has them for $499,but it has a grey frame and a black slide .I want all black . I will be getting one in the near future......
Shooting one before you buy one?
 
I actually held one yesterday. Played with it for about 10 minutes. Guess what? I want one. Academy has them for $499,but it has a grey frame and a black slide .I want all black . I will be getting one in the near future......
Are you sure Academy has P365 SAS for $499? They show them on their website for $579. Maybe there are some deals going on with the SAS. Bass Pro lured (no pun intended) us in on their deal for $407 but of course never shipped. If they have a SAS for $499 in SC, I will get one tomorrow.
 
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