Cz Or S&w

P10 all the way, have had a couple m&p s never really impressed me from an accuracy or ergonomics standpoint when compared with a CZ.
 
jmccracken1214 said:
if you had to choose one....

Only one.....

Not both......

Cz p10
Or
M&p 2.0

Considering all things. Which would you carry if you had the choice
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Thatā€™s easy..
From a guy who now owns a CZ and at least one M&P...

An H&K VP9SK. :D
 
jmccracken1214 said:
I love my p10 and shoot it pretty well but I handled a m&p the other day with apex trigger and it was very nice
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Iā€™ve not had experience with CZā€™s customer service but S&Wā€™s is pretty hard to beat. Maybe somebody can comment?
 
Would the price of magazines be an issue?
 
I bought CZ and Smith a long time ago. But having to pay $500 bucks for a pistol in need of a $150 trigger job is bad business. Walther, HK, Sig understand this.
 
jmccracken1214 said:
None of the modern big name pistols Iā€™ve shot needed one but theyā€™re nice. Speeds up shooting a bit. I love the trigger in my p10, but I was just as fast with all of my stock gen 5 glock triggers
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No argument there. But I often hear people say things like "Well, you can buy that XXX $500 gun, but you will need to upgrade the trigger". I know they can help, but I have never felt it a necessity. At least to the point that people assume they will have to add it to the price of the pistol before its even purchased.
 
jmccracken1214 said:
Youā€™ll just spend $150+ more on those pistols lol.
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Not really. The PPQ and VP9 are +/- 10% of the price of a P10 or M&P.
Of all the plastic striker guns I've owned, the PPQ and VP9 had the best out of box triggers.


jmccracken1214 said:
None of the modern big name pistols Iā€™ve shot needed one but theyā€™re nice. Speeds up shooting a bit. I love the trigger in my p10, but I was just as fast with all of my stock gen 5 glock triggers
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I do agree with this. I don't think any of them need it, either, but you're right...it's nice in some instsnces.
 
Iā€™ve only done major upgrades to one pistol. I took a Yeet Cannon and upgraded the trigger and all other internals, added a match-grade barrel and had all the parts stoned and polished. Now it shoots every bit as well as my VP9 and Iā€™ve only got $450 in it. ;)
 
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B00ger said:
No argument there. But I often hear people say things like "Well, you can buy that XXX $500 gun, but you will need to upgrade the trigger". I know they can help, but I have never felt it a necessity. At least to the point that people assume they will have to add it to the price of the pistol before its even purchased.
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draco88 said:
Not really. The PPQ and VP9 are +/- 10% of the price of a P10 or M&P.
Of all the plastic striker guns I've owned, the PPQ and VP9 had the best out of box triggers.




I do agree with this. I don't think any of them need it, either, but you're right...it's nice in some instsnces.
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Better to be efficient with a factory trigger, than always use light aftermarket ones. That way itā€™ll help with almost any gun you pick up, being used to the extra weight/pull.
Thatā€™s my views on it.
 
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I just ordered the P-10F. My first non'Grock striker (besides an SR9 I had for a short period).

We'll see how it goes. I am going to stone/polish it and try to run it stock. Likely change recoil springs and maybe striker spring. Likely I won't be able to resist customization, as it's my nature, but Im gonna try.


Shot some real nice M&P's tho. Good guns, too. Hard to go wrong with any of them.
 
The only problem I have had with my 75B is the trigger. It hurts my finger after a few shots. I did make it more comfortable with a file and a little elbow grease. The edge of it bit into my finger until I took some metal off the side of the trigger. I did get a replacement trigger before I took a file to the original one just in case I messed up big time. I have had the same issue with a Kahr CW45.
 
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I bought a CZ10F last week. I also have a M&P 2.0 5ā€.
The CZ has a better feel to it for me. And I like the trigger better on the CZ. YMMV


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Charlie said:
The only problem I have had with my 75B is the trigger. It hurts my finger after a few shots. I did make it more comfortable with a file and a little elbow grease. The edge of it bit into my finger until I took some metal off the side of the trigger. I did get a replacement trigger before I took a file to the original one just in case I messed up big time. I have had the same issue with a Kahr CW45.
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https://cajungunworks.com/product/75585-85c-old-style-trigger/
Order one of these, will completely change your feelings about the 75 trigger.
 
CZ. S&W makes solid stuff but I can see myself ever wanting any M&P in the future.
 
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