Man becomes first to lose guns under New York’s >Red Flag Law<

These reported cases don't help us.

Until someone who isn't a nutcase gets their rights infringed the movement will gain momentum.
I'm not aware of the dude in MD that got killed last year having done absolutely anything that would have warranted confiscation. Please correct me if I'm wrong. - On the last day of his life, all he did was defend what was his.

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I'm not aware of the dude in MD that got killed last year having done absolutely anything that would have warranted confiscation. Please correct me if I'm wrong. - On the last day of his life, all he did was defend what was his.

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If someone makes the charge and you answer the door and try to shoot it out with the police who are investigating aren't you proving that the call was justified?
 
I'm not aware of the dude in MD that got killed last year having done absolutely anything that would have warranted confiscation. Please correct me if I'm wrong. - On the last day of his life, all he did was defend what was his.

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Paul Harvey just phoned with the rest of the story.

If someone makes the charge and you answer the door and try to shoot it out with the police who are investigating aren't you proving that the call was justified?


was awakened Monday morning at 5:17 a.m. when two officers from Anne Arundel County knocked on his door. A law-abiding gun owner, Willis answered the door “with a gun in his hand,” according to a police department spokesman. They were there to serve him with an “extreme risk protective order” and remove his legally owned firearms.

According to the spokesman, Willis put his firearm down to read the ERPO but then, apparently recognizing that it wasn’t a legal search warrant issued by a judge in accordance with protections guaranteed to him by the Fourth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, but instead was issued by a local judge under Maryland’s newly minted “red flag” law, he retrieved his firearm.

The spokesman said that Willis “became irate.” In the melee that followed, one of the firearms carried either by one of the officers or by Willis went off. One of the officers then pulled his own sidearm and shot Willis dead.


In addition to the same article reference:

So successful have the unconstitutional raids been in Anne Arundel County that the department is building a new storage facility specifically to accommodate all the firearms they are expected to confiscate under the new law.
https://www.thenewamerican.com/usne...wner-killed-during-red-flag-confiscation-raid



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Paul Harvey just phoned with the rest of the story.




was awakened Monday morning at 5:17 a.m. when two officers from Anne Arundel County knocked on his door. A law-abiding gun owner, Willis answered the door “with a gun in his hand,” according to a police department spokesman. They were there to serve him with an “extreme risk protective order” and remove his legally owned firearms.

According to the spokesman, Willis put his firearm down to read the ERPO but then, apparently recognizing that it wasn’t a legal search warrant issued by a judge in accordance with protections guaranteed to him by the Fourth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, but instead was issued by a local judge under Maryland’s newly minted “red flag” law, he retrieved his firearm.

The spokesman said that Willis “became irate.” In the melee that followed, one of the firearms carried either by one of the officers or by Willis went off. One of the officers then pulled his own sidearm and shot Willis dead.


In addition to the same article reference:

So successful have the unconstitutional raids been in Anne Arundel County that the department is building a new storage facility specifically to accommodate all the firearms they are expected to confiscate under the new law.
https://www.thenewamerican.com/usne...wner-killed-during-red-flag-confiscation-raid



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What was illegal about it? and what were his qualifications to determine that at the scene?

No, it was a legal order and he decided to gun it out instead of fight it out in court like he should have. Now the rest of the world just sees that red Flag laws are necessary.
 
What was illegal about it? and what were his qualifications to determine that at the scene?

Good question, his qualifications?
Willis got it right and to how he knew it wasn't a Legal Search Warrant?
I can only offer an educated guess, it was the way the RFL paper was worded.

Willis put his firearm down to read the ERPO but then, apparently recognizing that it wasn’t a legal search warrant issued by a judge in accordance with protections guaranteed to him by the Fourth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution,
https://www.thenewamerican.com/usne...wner-killed-during-red-flag-confiscation-raid

No, it was a legal order and he decided to gun it out instead of fight it out in court like he should have.
Keeping in mind we're speaking of a US Citizen that was 61 years old and presumably properly educated in Civics, unlike others which is another conversation.
So, Willis recognized the paper as Not Legal.
Now the rest of the world just sees that red Flag laws are necessary.
What is necessary is a vehicle / sound legal method ( without Throwing out due process & the Constitution ) to accurately recognize legitimate threats posed by individuals.

illegally stealing ones property ( in this case guns ) is not a sound method.
 
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