Cuthbertson High School teacher told students VP Pence should be "shot in the head"

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Haven't seen any postings on this. If it's elsewhere, please post the thread link for me.

No name has been released yet, but if anybody here has that info I'd be interested. After all...if anybody else can be outted for making stupid comments, why would this individual be any different?

Right now, all I've gotten is it's a lady teacher and she's been placed on administrative leave and the Sheriff has turned over details to the Secret Service for investigation.

Cuthbertson High School, in Waxhaw, NC. Anybody near there with more info?

https://www.fox46charlotte.com/news...-students-vp-pence-should-be-shot-in-the-head

"This is the Vice President of the United States. He's an elected official,” said Firas Obeid.

Obeid, a parent of two Cuthbertson students says, while he's not necessarily a Pence supporter, it's ridiculous to speak of shooting the VP.

"Affiliation to a specific party does not entitle us to make statement like that to anyone,” said Obeid.

Especially when the statements were allegedly made to students.
 
It's ok. You are allowed to say things like that about republicans...
Bigfelipe is right about different standards .

In the Odummer years there would be hoards of people demanding her be fired and protesting in front of the school.

I'm not sure that it's a real threat ,but it should not have been said in a classroom. I'm glad she's being given a lesson in controlling her mouth. Too many Democrats in the classrooms teaching.
 
Haven't seen any postings on this. If it's elsewhere, please post the thread link for me.

No name has been released yet, but if anybody here has that info I'd be interested. After all...if anybody else can be outted for making stupid comments, why would this individual be any different?

Right now, all I've gotten is it's a lady teacher and she's been placed on administrative leave and the Sheriff has turned over details to the Secret Service for investigation.

Cuthbertson High School, in Waxhaw, NC. Anybody near there with more info?

https://www.fox46charlotte.com/news...-students-vp-pence-should-be-shot-in-the-head

"This is the Vice President of the United States. He's an elected official,” said Firas Obeid.

Obeid, a parent of two Cuthbertson students says, while he's not necessarily a Pence supporter, it's ridiculous to speak of shooting the VP.

"Affiliation to a specific party does not entitle us to make statement like that to anyone,” said Obeid.

Especially when the statements were allegedly made to students.

My question for both of these examples is how in the hell do these people become TEACHERS???
 
Disrespectful, maybe, but a threat, no. Faux outrage.
The fact that she made the comment in front of students is what crosses the line. She directly may not have been a threat, but that if one of her students took it upon themselves to attempt to follow through? Even without that, it implanted a seed in their minds. o_O

I hope the SS, I mean Secret Service gives her a painfully through investigation. ;)
 
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Clearly underpaid.

You get what you pay for, right?

Do you think paying teachers more, will change their attitude or beliefs? NO...........most teachers are over paid for what they really do, it's the 5% that are good, that are under paid.
 
My question for both of these examples is how in the hell do these people become TEACHERS???
This is nothing compared to many stories I've read. It's appalling the number of truly horrible people who go into the teaching profession. I won't say that there aren't good ones out there, but the impact the bad ones have is highly disproportionate.
 
My question for both of these examples is how in the hell do these people become TEACHERS???

The school system will hire any dumbass yankee with a pulse and passing Praxis grade (which you can take as many times as you can afford it. Many I knew failed it a few times). My first year, during orientation, I was one of 12 new hires actually from NC. But really, I would say it was 50/50 odds on teachers being unfit for the profession. Seems like many picked the profession because they still had a child's mentality.
 
My daughter went to APP State with the intention of being a teacher. Graduated with a BSA in something I can't remember but it's more impressive than my degree. After going through a semester or two of student teaching at one of the local high schools, she told me, "Yeah I ain't dealing with all that crap!" Now she's the admin for the director of corporate security at a very well-known charitable organization in the Boone area. She's as happy as can be, and I'm very happy for her. I honestly cannot imagine why anybody would want to be a school teacher these days.
 
My question for both of these examples is how in the hell do these people become TEACHERS???

Pretty easy, actually. Are you sure you really want to know?

First, you go to college and get your degree. If you're smart, you'll engage in teaching activities along the way, which is another requirement.

Then you take the state licensing exam. How difficult is this? According to a brother of mine, who retired out of the Air Force and went on to get his degree and teach, all you have to do is pick the most touchy-feely answers to the questions and you'll have no problem passing.

Then apply for a job teaching...because there are ALWAYS teaching jobs open somewhere, so you're GOING to find a job very easily.

Then...just continue your education along the way as part of your job.

Easy-peasy.
 
Clearly underpaid.

You get what you pay for, right?

I get the level of sarcasm here.

But for those teachers who are pulling stunts like this, while being part of the "I'm so underpaid" crowd, I have this to say:

If you, as a teacher, can tell the difference between a bowl of fruit and a drawing of a bowl of fruit ('cause there are so many art teachers, shop teachers, home ec teachers, and the like out there) but you cannot tell the difference between a Pop Tart and a gun, things do not bode well with me with respect to your getting a pay raise.
 
If you factor in the fact that its 10 months of work vs 12 they are actually above the median income statistics.

But try factoring in having to deal with your everyone else's kids for 10 months 5/7.

Btw, not trying to defend the educational apparat or the apparatchiks who, for the most part, control it.
 
If you factor in the fact that its 10 months of work vs 12 they are actually above the median income statistics.

And a very valid point this is.

I remember one of my teachers, long ago and far away, who told us what he did for income during the summer...and he made a KILLING at it, too.

He invested in a few cans of spray paint, some forms, a metal number stencil kit, and a tote box to carry everything in.

Then he walked entire neighborhoods at a time selling his service...painting house numbers on the curbs in front of their houses. He had a sales pitch and everything, involving how professional it looked, how the house numbers would be so easy for emergency services to find, for friends and relatives to find, etc.

I think he charged about $10 for this. This would have been around 1980, so I doubt it was $20 a pop.

He'd walk an entire street and pitch his sale door-to-door. Then, once he was done, he'd get his tote box, walk the entire street with his spray paint and form and paint all the rectangles on the curbs. Then he'd start back at the beginning, by which time the background paint was plenty dry, set up his metal stencils for each house number in turn and spray each house number.

Actual time spent painting? Maybe 5 minutes, including any cleaning/brushing of the area to prep it if required.

Usually along the way, several of the neighbors who turned the sales pitch down, or who weren't home at the time, would see what it looked like and rather than be the "odd man out", many would buy into it as well.

So a single street a block or two long could net him 20 or more sales. Not bad, for a couple hours of selling and painting altogether, and a (tax free, as we would later realize) net of $200 or more. Work a few streets in a single day and he'd rake in quite a bit. You're looking at $1,000 or more a day, if he wanted to work enough neighborhoods, and back then that was big money.

He claimed to make more in the summer doing this than his entire year teaching. All ONLY on days he wanted to work, too, with plenty of leisure time for himself.

His lesson to his students? There is work out there for you if you WANT to work. All it takes is a simple vision and a will to do it.
 
Red Flag !!

Would love to see the black suits rip his house apart Looking for guns he says " I don't own any guns !"
Keep looking boys he's lying.. I sold him a AR 2 weeks ago. Check his holes.
 
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But try factoring in having to deal with your everyone else's kids for 10 months 5/7.

Btw, not trying to defend the educational apparat or the apparatchiks who, for the most part, control it.
They can't complain because they knew that going in. Both of my sisters are teachers and I have heard them both complain about pay and not getting more vacation time. Uh. Two mo the off I the summer, plus you can work a side gig which puts your income fairly above the median.

Yeah, it is a valid complaint that they buy school supplies for the classroom. They pay $400-500 out of pocket for supplies across the year. Do they think other professions don't do this? Why don't they just refuse to buy them and get the school system that they claim is responsible to?

Most teachers I have met act like they are martyrs of some great struggle and it is tiring to see people patting themselves on the back so much. I can't deal with kids all day, but I also haven't knowingly signed up for that either.
 
They can't complain because they knew that going in. Both of my sisters are teachers and I have heard them both complain about pay and not getting more vacation time. Uh. Two mo the off I the summer, plus you can work a side gig which puts your income fairly above the median.

Yeah, it is a valid complaint that they buy school supplies for the classroom. They pay $400-500 out of pocket for supplies across the year. Do they think other professions don't do this? Why don't they just refuse to buy them and get the school system that they claim is responsible to?

Most teachers I have met act like they are martyrs of some great struggle and it is tiring to see people patting themselves on the back so much. I can't deal with kids all day, but I also haven't knowingly signed up for that either.

Oh, I quite agree with you. All teachers should quit and let parents take care of teaching their own - after all, parents knowingly signed up for that.
 
They can't complain because they knew that going in. Both of my sisters are teachers and I have heard them both complain about pay and not getting more vacation time. Uh. Two mo the off I the summer, plus you can work a side gig which puts your income fairly above the median.

Yeah, it is a valid complaint that they buy school supplies for the classroom. They pay $400-500 out of pocket for supplies across the year. Do they think other professions don't do this? Why don't they just refuse to buy them and get the school system that they claim is responsible to?

Most teachers I have met act like they are martyrs of some great struggle and it is tiring to see people patting themselves on the back so much. I can't deal with kids all day, but I also haven't knowingly signed up for that either.

Lots of truth here, too.

One source of extra income...tutoring services. Music lessons (obviously for the music teachers). Teaching summer school. Any number of side jobs along the way.

Pretty much like the rest of us, if we wish.

Buying supplies for the classroom? Yeah, I've teacher friends and family and they've all done that. Heck, I've chipped in my self.

In fact, back when I was a wee lad, I know Mom helped out occasionally. Shouldn't be a stretch for a parent here or there to do the same...you know, "donating" time and/or material? Not hard...and not that expensive, really.

Hell, I've been known on more than one occasion to make a trip to Lowes or buy something off the internet with my own money in order to keep some job rolling along here in the shipyard. You tell me...when a technical manual has no parts list and no drawings exist for a stupid piece of equipment, would you rather I waste your valuable tax payer money stopping work and pursuing some stupid avenue trying to find a source for some stupid non-structural metric allen head stainless steel screw, or would you appreciate me just buying the d*mn thing at Lowes and getting the job done on time? One costs me a buck-fiddy, the other costs entire man-days.

Many teachers view their material purchases for their kids in the same light.
 
WHAT'S THE MATTER WITH YOU PEOPLE?!?!?! She didn't really mean that. She was just joking with the students.
By the way, it would really be interesting to know what her name is. Someone on here ought to have a kid in that school or know someone who has one. Bet they told the students they were forbidden to discuss it even with their parents.
 
Do you think paying teachers more, will change their attitude or beliefs? NO...........most teachers are over paid for what they really do, it's the 5% that are good, that are under paid.

It would not make them change their beliefs but it would make them want to hang on to their jobs, which would hopefully nix a lot of stupid acts you hear about on the news.

I am an educator so I realize I am biased, but dang. I have been fortunate to work and coach and train many educators that are just trying to teach their students. Sure there are some that are just there to collect a pay check as in any job, but they are the minority, not the other way around. I know very few teachers who wake up and say “I think I’ll just be mediocre today.”
 
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It would not make them change their beliefs but it would make them want to hang on to their jobs, which would hopefully nix a lot of stupid acts you hear about on the news.

I am an educator so I realize I am biased, but dang. I have been fortunate to work and coach and train many educators that are just trying to teach their students. Sure there are some that are just there to collect a pay check as in any job, but they are the minority, not the other way around. I know very few teachers who wake up and say “I think I’ll just be mediocre today.”

When I went to college in the late 80's. It really was all the ditzy girls that were education majors, they said it was an easy BA/BS.

Even when I was in High School, there were really only 2 stand out teachers. My daughter finished HS in the spring and my son is on 10th, it doesn't seem to have changed. I go to all the open house and teacher/parent meeting, I try to stay active in my kids education, the schools are not doing it.
 
The school system will hire any dumbass yankee with a pulse and passing Praxis grade (which you can take as many times as you can afford it. Many I knew failed it a few times). My first year, during orientation, I was one of 12 new hires actually from NC. But really, I would say it was 50/50 odds on teachers being unfit for the profession. Seems like many picked the profession because they still had a child's mentality.

You still teach?


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