Waiter arrested for adding tips to bills

This guy is an idiot. All that for $550?

Mandatory tipping is stupid and defeats the purpose.

I wonder what he got paid because the own said he paid him well. If $2.13/hour is considered good wages why are people complaining about minimum wage?


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I've been filling out the tip line like this for a while
-----$x.xx-----
Not that I don't trust the wait staff, or that i think it will stop a determined scammer, but it's an easy way to deter somebody who might be tempted. Kind of like the lock on my front door.
 
Chobanian, who had completed a prison sentence for marijuana trafficking days before the alleged fraud began and was on probation, was fired as police started finding more and more victims.
Not necessarily relevant, but in my eyes, funny.


In a Consumer Reports survey, 46 percent of respondents said they would prefer a system that charged higher prices restaurants to cover salaries instead of relying on customers' tips. Respondents said they thought it would be less of a hassle.

No they wouldn't. They'd scream at the prices.
 
spittinfire said:
This guy is an idiot. All that for $550?

Mandatory tipping is stupid and defeats the purpose.

I wonder what he got paid because the own said he paid him well. If $2.13/hour is considered good wages why are people complaining about minimum wage?


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Don't forget cash tips usually aren't claimed either. At a diner I worked at in high school the waitresses would usually bring in $12-15 an hour. That's what irritates me when people complain about the $2.13 an hour. It's just there to help cover taxes. If they don't get enough tips to equal minimum wage the difference is supposed to be made up.
 
If I leave cash tip, I'll write cash on tip line.
 
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I never use a CC to purchase anything at a bar or restaurant. I donā€™t trust servers from all the things my buddies have told me. If I leave a tip is always cash. I donā€™t tip sorry service.
 
georgel said:
Chobanian, who had completed a prison sentence for marijuana trafficking days before the alleged fraud began and was on probation, was fired as police started finding more and more victims.
Not necessarily relevant, but in my eyes, funny.


In a Consumer Reports survey, 46 percent of respondents said they would prefer a system that charged higher prices restaurants to cover salaries instead of relying on customers' tips. Respondents said they thought it would be less of a hassle.

No they wouldn't. They'd scream at the prices.
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My daughter has a friend who earns about $50/hr in tips at a small brew pub. She doesn't want a pay cut. [emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787]


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georgel said:
In a Consumer Reports survey, 46 percent of respondents said they would prefer a system that charged higher prices restaurants to cover salaries instead of relying on customers' tips. Respondents said they thought it would be less of a hassle.

No they wouldn't. They'd scream at the prices.
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Not to mention the level of service goes down DRASTICALLY because now the wait staff don't care whether you're served on time/hot food/drinks refilled - because they get paid the same however they treat you. There's also going to be less of them, because now the establishment has to pay them directly, so they can save money by hiring a few less.
 
georgel said:
Chobanian, who had completed a prison sentence for marijuana trafficking days before the alleged fraud began and was on probation, was fired as police started finding more and more victims.
Not necessarily relevant, but in my eyes, funny.


In a Consumer Reports survey, 46 percent of respondents said they would prefer a system that charged higher prices restaurants to cover salaries instead of relying on customers' tips. Respondents said they thought it would be less of a hassle.

No they wouldn't. They'd scream at the prices.
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This is not true. It is the server industry and restaurant owners that are against paying the wait staff a wage vs tips. In the current system servers get paid more and do not declare the actual income. Most declare the min which IIRC is 10% of receipts and then collect between 15-25% on avg if you are a good server. That is a huge tax break. For most servers the $2.15 wage covers all their taxes. The restaurant off loads a huge part of the payroll and payroll taxes. They do not have to handle. manage and move the $$$ to pay servers. This is why there are always more front of the house workers than cooks. The increase if you built in 15% on a bill and removed the need to tip would not effect the consumer as much as it would the industry. The market will not allow the industry to pass along all of the cost.


OutLore said:
Not to mention the level of service goes down DRASTICALLY because now the wait staff don't care whether you're served on time/hot food/drinks refilled - because they get paid the same however they treat you. There's also going to be less of them, because now the establishment has to pay them directly, so they can save money by hiring a few less.
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This is not really the case. Many high end restaurants include the gratuity. It is common in Europe to not have to tip. Service in those restaurants is not universally worse. This is yet another myth about the restaurant industry. The number one incentive for good service in your avg restaurant is so you turn your table faster. If I can get 20% more tables than an ineffective server I am going to make more money per shift than getting a 5% bump by refilling your drink.
 
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wvsig said:
This is not true. It is the server industry and restaurant owners that are against paying the wait staff a wage vs tips. The servers get paid more and do not declare the actual income. Most declare the min which IIRC is 10% of receipts and then collect between 15-25% on avg if you are a good server. The restaurant off loads a huge part of the payroll an payroll taxes. The increase if you built in 15% on a bill and removed the need to tip would not effect the consumer as much as it would the industry.




This is not really the case. Many high end restaurants include the gratuity. It is common in Europe to not have to tip. Service in those restaurants is not universally worse. This is yet another myth about the restaurant industry. The number one incentive for good service your avg restaurant is so you turn your table faster. If I can get 20% more tables than in ineffective server I am going to make more money per shift than getting a 5% bump by refilling your drink.
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This was my personal experience. I waited tables for years during college and as a side gig afterwards. The last thing I wanted was to move to a "minimum wage" style pay structure. Sure, some slow days I wouldn't make but $20-50 in tips...but when the weekend would hit, or there was an event in town that could jump to $100-150 in a single night. And this was at a small cafƩ in downtown Winston. I also enjoyed taking my fat butt to the bank with a wad of $100 or more in $1 bills and explaining that it was a good night on the pole.

I also did work at a posh hotel as a banquet server with tip share. We made a good hourly wage and we had a tip share system. It was in our best interest (even making a good hourly) to provide excellent service because if we didn't, we got fired.
 
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This was my personal experience. I waited tables for years during college and as a side gig afterwards. The last thing I wanted was to move to a "minimum wage" style pay structure. Sure, some slow days I wouldn't make but $20-50 in tips...but when the weekend would hit, or there was an event in town that could jump to $100-150 in a single night. And this was at a small cafƩ in downtown Winston. I also enjoyed taking my fat butt to the bank with a wad of $100 or more in $1 bills and explaining that it was a good night on the pole.

I also did work at a posh hotel as a banquet server with tip share. We made a good hourly wage and we had a tip share system. It was in our best interest (even making a good hourly) to provide excellent service because if we didn't, we got fired.
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Exactly if you have worked in the industry as a server you understand why the industry wants it to stay the way it is. I have worked in both the front and the back end of the house. Servers consistently make more than the kitchen but the kitchen does not have to deal with the customer. I used to tell the wait staff your worst day is my everyday when I was a cook. When I cooked for the main dinning room I ran a food line for 20+ tables and a bar. They had 4 waiters/waitresses, a hostess and a bartender. I made them all a lot of $$$ in tips and was paid less than 1 of the waitress.
 
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Exactly if you have worked in the industry as a server you understand why the industry wants it to stay the way it is. I have worked in both the front and the back end of the house. Servers consistently make more than the kitchen but the kitchen does not have to deal with the customer. I used to tell the wait staff your worst day is my everyday when I was a cook. When I cooked for the main dinning room I ran a food line for 20+ tables and a bar. They had 4 waiters/waitresses, a hostess and a bartender. I made them all a lot of $$$ in tips and was paid less than 1 of the waitress.
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Yup...oddly enough, after years dealing with it, my favorite duty became washing dishes...no matter what kind of craziness was going on in the front house or the kitchen, my job was "Grab pan, wash pan, repeat..." And most places tip out the dish washer at the end of the night. People who see "Waiters get paid $2.15 an hour!" and freak out have never actually carried a tray.
 
B00ger said:
Yup...oddly enough, after years dealing with it, my favorite duty became washing dishes...no matter what kind of craziness was going on in the front house or the kitchen, my job was "Grab pan, wash pan, repeat..." And most places tip out the dish washer at the end of the night. People who see "Waiters get paid $2.15 an hour!" and freak out have never actually carried a tray.
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Loved dishes on slow nights I would swap with the dish guy and let them train on the other stations.
 
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That has happened to me twice at the IHOP. They are pressing charges against the girl. She screwed up for an extra $5.00. And I gave her over a 20% tip because she was nice.
 
wvsig said:
This is not really the case. Many high end restaurants include the gratuity. It is common in Europe to not have to tip. Service in those restaurants is not universally worse. This is yet another myth about the restaurant industry. The number one incentive for good service in your avg restaurant is so you turn your table faster. If I can get 20% more tables than an ineffective server I am going to make more money per shift than getting a 5% bump by refilling your drink.
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Got to disagree here. As someone who lived in Europe for 30+ years, the service level at a regular restaurant in Europe sucks compared to here. Sure, there are exceptions, but as a general rule, the service in the US is better than Europe.
Now, if you're talking high end then sure, you're probably going to see a different class of diner and a different class of server - who is probably not making minimum wage - but I don't think that's not what we're discussing in this thread.
My comment still stands even if your theory is right about turning tables - if you're getting the same $15/hr whether you serve 2 tables or 5 tables, there's no incentive. If you're getting $2.15/hr plus tips then you have an incentive to give better service to turn the tables faster.
 
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DrScaryGuy said:
I've been filling out the tip line like this for a while
-----$x.xx-----
Not that I don't trust the wait staff, or that i think it will stop a determined scammer, but it's an easy way to deter somebody who might be tempted. Kind of like the lock on my front door.
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I do too.
I also spell out the total just like on a check and put an asterisk In front and after the ammount
 
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