Ruger vs S&W in court over 10/22 rifle design

Ruger is just jealous that the TCR22 is a better rifle than the 10/22.
 
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S&W is kinda hard headed about this kinda thing. Not the first time.
The Schmegma, any other blatant copies?
At least this time S&W waited for more than 15 years before selling a copy. I assume the patent has expired on the 10/22.
I got soured on S&W when they partnered up with Clinton's gun plans and making a copy of the G17.
 
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I know nothing about the TCR22 other than it certainly does look a lot like the Ruger. Why is it a better rifle than the Ruger?

I have not fired one but it looks like the bolt goes home without having to hold 7 different parts at once.

I had to buy extra parts to get the 10/22 bolt to go home easily.
 
I have not fired one but it looks like the bolt goes home without having to hold 7 different parts at once.

I had to buy extra parts to get the 10/22 bolt to go home easily.

Does the bolt hold back after the last shot?

The bolt on my 10/22 only holds back when I lock it there intentionally for such things as cleaning and inspection. It is somewhat of a pain to get it to close if you do not have nimble fingers to hit the lock correctly.
 
Does the bolt hold back after the last shot?

The bolt on my 10/22 only holds back when I lock it there intentionally for such things as cleaning and inspection. It is somewhat of a pain to get it to close if you do not have nimble fingers to hit the lock correctly.

It APPEARED to do that in a video I watched. I have not fired one!
 
https://www.shootingillustrated.com/articles/2018/8/21/review-thompsoncenter-tcr22/

This article says that there is a last shot bolt hold open function, and it also says that the bolt drops freely when pulled back. So, two big improvements there.

You can easily dremel out a part on the 10/22 to get the slingshot bolt drop function. But last shot hold open is very hard to do. There was only one aftermarket fix for that, last time I checked.
 
Get'em while you can. I might have to look for one. When I saw the gun, I had assumed the patent had run out on the 10/22.
 
I know nothing about the TCR22 other than it certainly does look a lot like the Ruger. Why is it a better rifle than the Ruger?
It does nearly everything that people buy extra parts for or do work on a 10/22 for something similar, except it comes from the factory that way at a similar price point to a bare bones 10/22.
 
Did they really?

In the linked article from OP is the following: New Hampshire Union Leader 'Sturm, Ruger takes Smith & Wesson to court over its iconic .22-caliber rifle'
"This gun looks familiar, very familiar in fact. It also happens to function so closely to that other gun that stamped right on the T/CR22 spec sheet reads the phrase ‘compatible with most aftermarket 10-22 parts and accessories."
 
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Smith and Wesson tried to make their own Glocks one time as well... They haven't had an original idea in awhile...
 
It does nearly everything that people buy extra parts for or do work on a 10/22 for something similar, except it comes from the factory that way at a similar price point to a bare bones 10/22.

Not really. You can buy a basic 10/22 for under $200. The cheapest I could find the R22 was around $325. Not super expensive either way but not really the same price point.
 
Not sure how this will turn out. I was involved with a trade dress and patent infringement case wherein our company sued a competitor that made an exact duplicate of our product and the retailer that advertised the product in order to confuse consumers. More or less as if Smith had called theirs the Storm Rooger 10/22.

At the end, we lost what should have been an open and shut case AND the federal court invalidated our patent. :(
 
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Not really. You can buy a basic 10/22 for under $200. The cheapest I could find the R22 was around $325. Not super expensive either way but not really the same price point.
Have they gone up in price? When they first hit the market I don't remember seeing them that high. And again, has a lot of the features that people upgrade on their ruger for a better price than if bought aftermarket.
 
Maybe I'm dense, but how can Kidd, Brownells, etc. get away with all these 10/22 clones while the T/CR22 is the focus of the lawsuit?
 
Maybe I'm dense, but how can Kidd, Brownells, etc. get away with all these 10/22 clones while the T/CR22 is the focus of the lawsuit?
My guess is 12 posts up "I assume not due to how little they affect market share." Volquartzen & Kidd cost a lot more.
 
Maybe I'm dense, but how can Kidd, Brownells, etc. get away with all these 10/22 clones while the T/CR22 is the focus of the lawsuit?
One answer is that Ruger probably doesn’t want to sue one of their biggest dealers.
 
One answer is that Ruger probably doesn’t want to sue one of their biggest dealers.
This.

I work for a large manufacturer and have seen firsthand issues with large customers acting as competitors, even blatantly violating IP. You always have to walk on eggshells when it comes to taking legal action in these cases because they can hurt you so bad that your CEO will lose their job, even if you are 100% in the right legally.

In this situation, River has nothing to lose with suing TC, however they have a lot to lose going after VQ, Brownells, or Kidd.
 
Ruger is just jealous that the TCR22 is a better rifle than the 10/22.

Review: Thompson Center’s T/CR22 (10/22 Clone)
The Ruger 10/22 is an industry leader in the world of semi-automatic .22LR rifles. However compared to the AR-15 and all its clones, there are very few alternatives to the venerable Ruger 10/22. Sure you can get a Volquartsen or a TacSol X-Ring but they are both near the $1,000 price range. Affordable 10/22 clones don’t really seem to exist except in the past like the AMT Lightning or the RIA M22. Well Thompson Center has their own 10/22 clone, the T/CR22 and it is not only affordable it is better than your stock 10/22.


https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2018/07/02/review-thompson-center-tcr22/
 
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