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So I have decided to try some skeet/trap. Looking for a low cost entry level shotgun. Trying to stay under $650.00. I have been leaning towards a CZ Drake 20 gauge, 28 inch barrel. Comes with 5 chokes.

Opinions/advice wanted recommendations. Keep it nice!!! Thanks guys/gals
 
I hope you get some killer advice cause Im in the same boat. Im a pistol guy but my gun club has outstanding shotgun facilities so looking to get some use out of them. No idea what I want but leaning toward a gas gun in 12 gage, probably a Beretta A300, but like the feel of some of the enertia guns too. Staying tuned.
 
Cheap O/Us are cheap. Questionable barrel regulation, heavy triggers, questionable longevity, doubling, and stout recoil are probably the top five reasons why you won't see many people that shoot a lot clays recommend them.

And I'm not just saying that ... I started with cheap O/Us and worked my way up quickly due to several of those isssues.

For $650 you'd be better off with a nice used sporting semi-auto from Remington or Beretta.

The best value in an O/U right now IMO is the Citori CXS. You can get them in 12 or 20 guage for $1600 on gunbroker and they are outstanding guns that will last you a lifetime. And they will hold their value better than cheap O/Us.

Here's an example:

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/846312530
 
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I am to damn old to be spending a lot of money on a gun that I will not shoot that often. Can not see spending a bunch of money on something that I am going to use once in a while. Maybe once or twice a month if that. I had the chance to shoot a Drake the other day and it felt fine. Now having said that I got to shoot an 18k dollar gun also. Damn that was nice. But yea that will NEVER happen.

For me though I am fine with a lower end.
 
Vyntage said:
Sounds like you've made up your mind then!
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Nope. In fact someone contacted me and I am going to be shooting a CZ Redhead Premier on Friday. But m It is a little bit more money, but we will see if it makes that big of a difference. I will try several out before I make up my mind. If I could find a used older Remington I would consider it, but I do not like any of there new stuff. I like CZ rifles and that is why I am leaning towards a CZ shotgun.

Now if I had the 18k for a for a Krieghoff K-80!!!
 
CZ doesn't make any shotguns. They just stamp their name on Huglus.
 
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ECNC said:
Nope. In fact someone contacted me and I am going to be shooting a CZ Redhead Premier on Friday. But m It is a little bit more money, but we will see if it makes that big of a difference. I will try several out before I make up my mind. If I could find a used older Remington I would consider it, but I do not like any of there new stuff. I like CZ rifles and that is why I am leaning towards a CZ shotgun.

Now if I had the 18k for a for a Krieghoff K-80!!!
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I've been shooting a Premier Target model for several years and between 10k - 15k shells now with no gun issues. It's another good option to consider.
 
Vyntage said:
CZ doesn't make any shotguns. They just stamp their name on Huglus.
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I just learned that about five minutes ago. I was surprised by that.
 
My wife is funny. She goes just spend the extra money and get something nice. I said OK give me $18k and I will.:D She changed her tune real quick.
 
Either of those CZs will be fine for occasional skeet or sporting clays shooting. They might not hold up for high volume shooting if that's what you have in mind, but it doesn't sound like you intend to be that sort of shooter - yet. However, the CZs especially in 20 gauge are not ideal for trap shooting. They will work for trap for recreational shooting, but you will experience a high level of frustration. Trap is a game of longer shots made easier with a higher, or even parallel, comb that allows you to lock your cheek onto the comb and still see the bird above the receiver and barrel. Guns with sloping combs like the CZs will make that difficult.

Don't let any of what I'm telling you dissuade you from trying the sports out, with whatever shotgun you commit to. Clay birds are really fun to shoot, and if you develop a high passion you can always upgrade. If not, the CZs will last a long time for a moderate investment.

Entry level K-80s go for about $11,000, by the way. The $18k guns have fancy scroll work and upgraded wood that has nothing to do with the actual functioning of the guns. There are plenty of very fine shotguns in the $2,000-6,000 price range that are made for high volume shooting.
 
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ECNC said:
So I have decided to try some skeet/trap. Looking for a low cost entry level shotgun. Trying to stay under $650.00. I have been leaning towards a CZ Drake 20 gauge, 28 inch barrel. Comes with 5 chokes.

Opinions/advice wanted recommendations. Keep it nice!!! Thanks guys/gals
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Remington LT 20.... For the price range they can't be beat. You DON'T have to have an O/U to shoot a skeet target........
 
Let’s be honest with one another, an entry level clays shooter will be well advised to shoot that old Remington 1100 or the Winchester Model 12 field guns you already own until you have confidence that you want to invest in a sport specific shotgun. I have shot a lot of clays in this area and am convinced that a field gun will suffice and provide lots of fun without breaking the bank. If you decide that the clays game is for you then by all means buy a gun but until then cool your jets and hang on to your cash.
Just my humble opinion.
 
Not if you do not own one and have not owned one in over 30 years.
 
Well I ended up ordering a CZ Wingshooter Elite yesterday. No I did not chip in the extra money, but my much better half said get it. So I now have a new grandson and a new shotgun and have not seen or gotten to hold either one yet.
 
If you’re only going to shoot for hobby (non-competition) and infrequently, a “cheap” shotgun will be just fine.

I’ve got a Remington Spartan SPR-310. They don’t import them from Russia anymore, so there’s only a used market. I grabbed mine for $400 on Gun Broker.

The biggest difference Ive seen in handling expensive shotguns versus my “working man’s beater is the weight. Mine is good for a game of sporting clays, then you start to feel its weight. That will affect your game. Otherwise, it does more than fine. I’m the limiting factor in my clays game, not my equipment!
 
dave33 said:
I hope you get some killer advice cause Im in the same boat. Im a pistol guy but my gun club has outstanding shotgun facilities so looking to get some use out of them. No idea what I want but leaning toward a gas gun in 12 gage, probably a Beretta A300, but like the feel of some of the enertia guns too. Staying tuned.
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What's an enertia gun?
 
Ben Jefferson said:
What's an enertia gun?
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It’s a non piston gun that uses recoil. For Benelli the recoil is smoothed thru a system imbedded in the stock. Inertia is a proven design but also has more kick.

Inertia guns take less cleaning to operate. You could shoot 5000 rounds and never clean it in some manufacturers.
 
vaskeet said:
I will let you try my K80 at the range lol
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Oh just rub it in!!! :( You know I am going to take you up on that. :D

Got home from seeing the grand baby and went and picked up the shotgun. Now learning about chokes. Was hoping to shoot this weekend but schools have their scrimmage this Saturday and I can not take making the drive two days in a row. So hoping for next Wed. Just hope the weather is fair
 
dmarbell said:
Either of those CZs will be fine for occasional skeet or sporting clays shooting. They might not hold up for high volume shooting if that's what you have in mind, but it doesn't sound like you intend to be that sort of shooter - yet. However, the CZs especially in 20 gauge are not ideal for trap shooting. They will work for trap for recreational shooting, but you will experience a high level of frustration. Trap is a game of longer shots made easier with a higher, or even parallel, comb that allows you to lock your cheek onto the comb and still see the bird above the receiver and barrel. Guns with sloping combs like the CZs will make that difficult.

Don't let any of what I'm telling you dissuade you from trying the sports out, with whatever shotgun you commit to. Clay birds are really fun to shoot, and if you develop a high passion you can always upgrade. If not, the CZs will last a long time for a moderate investment.

Entry level K-80s go for about $11,000, by the way. The $18k guns have fancy scroll work and upgraded wood that has nothing to do with the actual functioning of the guns. There are plenty of very fine shotguns in the $2,000-6,000 price range that are made for high volume shooting.
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Listen to this man here.^^^
I’ve watched him shoot clays.

Edit: Oops. I see the decision has already been made. Congrats!
 
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I have a bud looking for an inexpensive O/U. He doesn’t have the budget for an Italian gun or one that starts with a “B.” He was leaning toward an older Rem or Win gas semi auto in lieu of an O/U.

This thread helped me realize the CZ Drake & Redhead Premier as options for him. Thanks
 
BigB6flyer said:
Things I’d own if I was stupid rich...Crazy Quail
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They have another video of a group running that thing on full automatic with random setting by WiFi, the spent hulls were up to their knees.
 
Bailey Boat said:
The one in the video is only 37K..... Consider it an investment in your future. Until you've shot with one of these you haven't really shot...
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Ok. If I’m still employed in a year. Then maybe. I feel like I haven’t really lived (or shot) without being knee deep in spent shells.
 
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BigB6flyer said:
Things I’d own if I was stupid rich...Crazy Quail
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You make it pay for itself by touring with it to different clubs on a schedule. Imagine towing it behind your class A motor home and seeing all 50 states several times and being able to hook up at whatever club you're visiting that weekend, for FREE!!
 
More like “See me pulling it to the Moose Lodge in my ‘78 Pinto (bc let’s face it I’d be single & poor now since I showed terrible fiscal judgment of marital finances) & not be able to afford a motor home you know since I dropped $37k on a skeet bazooka from Robots Gone Bad begging them to hold a Crazy Quail fund raiser. I’ll be sleeping in the pinto listening to 8 Tracks in the parking lot. PS Don’t hit me as these Pintos are known for exploding & it nor the skeet machine are insured.” :D

Bailey Boat said:
You make it pay for itself by touring with it to different clubs on a schedule. Imagine towing it behind your class A motor home and seeing all 50 states several times and being able to hook up at whatever club you're visiting that weekend, for FREE!!
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BigB6flyer said:
More like “See me pulling it to the Moose Lodge in my ‘78 Pinto (bc let’s face it I’d be single & poor now since I showed terrible fiscal judgment of marital finances) & not be able to afford a motor home you know since I dropped $37k on a skeet bazooka from Robots Gone Bad begging them to hold a Crazy Quail fund raiser. I’ll be sleeping in the pinto listening to 8 Tracks in the parking lot. PS Don’t hit me as these Pintos are known for exploding & it nor the skeet machine are insured.” :D
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You not much of an business minded individual are you??
 
I bought a CZ Drake All-Terrain this year. Paddle took two hands to open. Shotgun would not break open unless you bent it over your knee. This is not an exaggeration one bit. Did it upon inspection but I took it home for 4 days and opened and closed it hundreds of times. Never made a difference so I had the gun store send it back to Kansas City CZ. It came back and is still somewhat hard to open. I have not read the service ticket nor shot the gun. Never should have sold my Browning Citori Gran Lightning. I’m sure CZ has good guns as I have seen many that worked flawlessly. I got a lemon but hopefully it works now.
 
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