North Carolina Carry class

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Sorry if this is a simple question...
My wife and I have had Carry Permits in Oklahoma for years and moved here a couple months ago now.
Do we have to start over from scratch as if never having had anything and take a local class in NC?
 
wife and I are in same boat bud. Believe me I want to sit through 8 hours of "and this is a trigger, this is a sight....guns are not toys..." for 8 hours like I want a hole in my dome. Ill get to it eventually, just hoping I can convince my wife to do it again.
 
Nc is more than naming parts of a gun. The main portion (80%) is on gun laws and statutes
And rounds fired at 3, 5 and 7 yards.
 
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NC requires the class to be a minimum 8 hours of instruction, two of which is to be spent covering firearm laws and use of deadly force. A written exam on the legal section of the class is also required, as well as a course of fire. Time spent shooting the course of fire does not count towards the 8 hours of instruction. 30 rounds is the minimum required by the state, with 10 rnds each at 3, 5 and 7 yards. 21 of the 30 rnds must be on target (silhouette or bullseye). It is at the instructors discretion if they want to run a more stringent course of fire. In that case there must still be 10 rnds each at 3, 5 and 7 yards, and a minimum of 70% of the total rnds fired must be on target. Many instructors do a 50 rnd course of fire, and want to see 100% on target to pass a student.

At this time NC has recognizes all other states concealed carry permits (we’ll see what happens with VA) provided the permittee follows all NC carry laws.

Feel free to PM me if you have any questions.
 
my instructor made us shoot weak hand only at 3, strong hand only at 5 and freestyle at 7.

is this the norm?
Mine was just happy that everybody got enough rounds on the paper. It wasn’t easy for some of us. :rolleyes:
 
Mine was just happy that everybody got enough rounds on the paper. It wasn’t easy for some of us. :rolleyes:

I was going to ask if you had to reschedule.
 
I was going to ask if you had to reschedule.
Nope, I passed with flying colors. However, the guy in the next lane was so bad that some of his shots musta ended up on my target. :)
 
my instructor made us shoot weak hand only at 3, strong hand only at 5 and freestyle at 7.

is this the norm?
The state does not specify how the course of fire is conducted other than what I described in my previous post. Outside meeting the minimum requirements, it is at the instructors discretion how the course of fire is conducted. They can make it as simple or complex as they want to. Instructors are responsible for every certificate they sign. How each instructor arrives at a “Passing” grade is up to them as long as they meet the state required standards and minimum.
 
We appreciate the information and humor. Need to get that scheduled soon I guess now that the DMV decided to take their portion of a liver to have a tag...Got real licenses in mail and tags and feeling like we belong finally. Even had a very very helpful person on the phone get us in somewhere in the state that wasn't going to take 3 months for an appointment! LOL
Thanks.
 
30 rounds is the minimum required by the state, with 10 rnds each at 3, 5 and 7 yards. 21 of the 30 rnds must be on target (silhouette or bullseye). I

My goodness:(:(....when I took the test for my CWP in 1976 we had to shoot on a B 27 that was scored by ring value. We shot at 7-15-25-50 yards. All stages were time limited. You had a 500 possible. You had to shoot 350 to pass. I shot a 494x500. This was the same course of fire for the Florence, S.C. Police Force. That range score stood for years as the highest fired there.

So now, as with many things [several certifications in my industry and others in the military] things seem to have been.....shall we say....made to accomadate the masses. The whole idea in S.C. at the time was..if you are going to carry a firearm as a civillian, you had to do the same qualification course as LE.

I am sad to report that our local LEs qualification course has now been shortened to 15 Yards. That was the Only way they can get All certified. I have them come her occasionally. They are pitiful...and have NO desire to get better. Just wanna get quslified.
 
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We took ours a few months ago but never got around to scheduling our police "interview" here in cumberland. We're hoping that our not-yet-expired MI IDs and CPLs are still good enough to count. but hers is up in may and mine is up in june... time to apply soon, i guess.

Our range portion was broken up into 3 groups we identified ourselves as- "beginners that need help", "probably okay", and "you'll hit the 10 ring any time any day with any gun somebody hands you".
My wife told me to raise my hand for that last group, and i agreed just to keep things moving (I am very familiar with the walther p22 platform they were handing out and i have 2 of 'em). Then he gave each of us 3 mags. had us stand on pavers at 3, 5, 7 yards and blast away one magazine from each rock. our group was over in under 3 minutes. everybody landed every shot. the other groups took progressively longer. Just my wife's luck, somehow she was the lucky one to get a malfunctioning gun in the "need help" group.
MUCH easier than the requirements up in MI which state that at least 30 shots and at least 3 of the 8 hours of class must be range time. I've NEVER seen a class actually do 3 hours on the range (and i've helped teach a bunch). Most people tacitly agree that the few hours of "how a gun works" instruction in the NRA Personal Protection in the Home course counts toward the "range time". I also don't think i've ever seen a class that did the kneeling position drills in the coursepack... so technically no classes in michigan meet the NRA requirements of the course or the state laws for the course... but that's what happens when you try to legislate details into restricting an enumerated right!
 
My goodness:(:(....when I took the test for my CWP in 1976 we had to shoot on a B 27 that was scored by ring value. We shot at 7-15-25-50 yards. All stages were time limited. You had a 500 possible. You had to shoot 350 to pass. I shot a 494x500. This was the same course of fire for the Florence, S.C. Police Force. That range score stood for years as the highest fired there.

So now, as with many things [several certifications in my industry and others in the military] things seem to have been.....shall we say....made to accomadate the masses. The whole idea in S.C. at the time was..if you are going to carry a firearm as a civillian, you had to do the same qualification course as LE.

I am sad to report that our local LEs qualification course has now been shortened to 15 Yards. That was the Only way they can get All certified. I have them come her occasionally. They are pitiful...and have NO desire to get better. Just wanna get quslified.

For better or worse, the CCW has also become the 'elite package' so far as streamlining gun-related activities. Perhaps less so in NC than heavy ban states, but still true nonetheless (handgun purchases, long gun purchases, ammo purchases, training class requirements, etc etc etc).

What is truly annoying, is that NC does not honor other states permits for internal transfer the way they would a DL or hunting license....fine, different laws, but in that case an abridged class testing folks on the laws would be far more appropriate. If you moved to NC and wanted your NC license you would also need to go through course. It's jut silly. I suspect $$$ has to do with it. All those fees they get to charge. After my life moves, I should be getting a security clearance with all the FBI, state and local investigations I've had. They could start a library of my fingerprints at this point as well.
 
I don't think there's a whole lot of $$ in it for .gov. It is, as usual, more about power and control. The fees serve more to encumber and restrict applicants, than to line the county coffers. I do wish they'd make it an endorsement on your DL instead of a flimsy piece of paper you have to laminate yourself (and is bigger than a credit card when you do). Would also much prefer if it was administered at the state level instead of county.
 
I don't think there's a whole lot of $$ in it for .gov. It is, as usual, more about power and control. The fees serve more to encumber and restrict applicants, than to line the county coffers. I do wish they'd make it an endorsement on your DL instead of a flimsy piece of paper you have to laminate yourself (and is bigger than a credit card when you do). Would also much prefer if it was administered at the state level instead of county.

most administered at county level? Fudgeeee. Think I’m technically in Durham county. Any one know wait times here?
 
most administered at county level? Fudgeeee. Think I’m technically in Durham county. Any one know wait times here?
Good luck brother. As long as they can legally make it take from what I've been told by several Durham Co residents. Hopefully someone that lives there can speak with direct experience.
 
my instructor made us shoot weak hand only at 3, strong hand only at 5 and freestyle at 7.

is this the norm?

The shooting qual is not set in stone, the instructor can create his own test. My requirement is now 5 shots left/right/both hands from 3 yards. From 5 and 7 yards they get to use both hands for each drill, which is 5 shots at 5 and 7 yards from both the low ready and ready position. All under a time limit but most people shoot much faster than the time limit i have noticed.
 
Criminal background check and mental health background check.

cool. Some states require character references and they MUST be state residents (in some cases even within the county)...think about that for a transplant. Yikes. Glad to hear N.C. not letting me down there though.
 
flimsy piece of paper you have to laminate yourself (and is bigger than a credit card when you do)
Scotland County did the laminating, but it is a tad bigger than a credit card. lol. I'll see what they do when renewal time comes up.
 
When I got mine in 1976 you had to have
1. A verifiable Reason to carry concealed
2. A full physical
3.A 10,000 dollar Bond
4. A range qualification. This had to be done on the local Police range and done by their training officer.

After this was all satisfied, the permit you got had more authority than any LE in the state. Most LEs could not carry outside their jurisdiction. Ours was good State wide and Anywhere. I have been on a jury and carried while in the box. All the above stuff had to be done every 2 years, except for the range Quals. The first fee was $250, afterwards, $50 every two years. This system was in place from 1975 through 1998.

There were No LEs that I came in contact with [traffic stops and other contacts] that had ever seen one or was aware there was such a thing. I once had a Game Warden in a gunshop tell me there was No such thing available in S.C. When he left he had called in to Columbia and was "enlightened".

When the system offered the CWP to the general populace, the requirements changed for the good and the authority to carry was gutted.

They tell me now that the CWP numbers are over 500,000. IF that is true, in a state of S.C. of 5 million. that would be one in ten armed legally. When that number is cut in half for people who would qualify because of age or other reason the number becomes one in 5. I would really like to know how many of those 500K carry regularly.

Taking in to account attrition of CWPs through death, or just not renewing, my "number" is one of the lowest still being used. I have been told by many folks when I am doing paper work that they have never seen one lower. I'll keep renewing as long as I am able.
 
Kept a pic of my CCW target. Just use a .22.

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I know this older dude (like 60) who is one of those big guys that has to be macho about everything.
So, for his CCW class he took a 4" 500S&W to show how tough he is.

He had that dark shadowy look in his eye. That look that says "that day was very painful and I made a bad decision."
 
Kept a pic of my CCW target. Just use a .22.

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I know this older dude (like 60) who is one of those big guys that has to be macho about everything.
So, for his CCW class he took a 4" 500S&W to show how tough he is.

He had that dark shadowy look in his eye. That look that says "that day was very painful and I made a bad decision."


Shooting a .22 is like cheating! You should be required to shoot .500 S7W, like a man...

jk, that is funny. Did he look down on all you mortals after a rapid fire drill? He must have had forearms like Popeye

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Shooting a .22 is like cheating! You should be required to shoot .500 S7W, like a man...

jk, that is funny. Did he look down on all you mortals after a rapid fire drill? He must have had forearms like Popeye

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Dude can barely hit a barn. And, the thing is: he's a big dude but not muscles big.

I'd bet the farm he has not picked up that gun since! Probably has nightmares.
 
Probably spent more on the ammo than on the class. :D
 
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