One of several reasons I don’t reload

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No, this wasn’t my 629-4. I lifted the photo from another forum. :eek:

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Sell all them Smith Revolvers, Jeppo, go ahead and reload and choot Ruger Revolvers Only. It takes a bigger mistake to make a Ruger Kaboom.

Then again, mebbe that's yer reason to stick with Smith's and factory ammo. ;)


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See? Didn't even lose the top strap!
 
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It can happen to anyone, even if you only use factory ammo...

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I know someone that had a factory load lodge in the barrel, I was there when it happened. Luckily, the guy standing behind him stopped him from firing after he had already racked the slide and loaded another round. Would have destroyed a really nice Browning BDA.
 
How does that even happen?

In the case of reloads- inattention, wrong powder, squib leaving a bore obstruction and sometimes just plain stupidity. On that last one, there are guys who think if some is great, more is even better and won't pay attention to listed max loads and pressures.

Reloading can be as safe as shooting factory if you want. If you want to live on the edge, just fill a 300Winmag case with Bullseye powder and see how that goes. It might be survivable.
 
In the case of reloads- inattention, wrong powder, squib leaving a bore obstruction and sometimes just plain stupidity. On that last one, there are guys who think if some is great, more is even better and won't pay attention to listed max loads and pressures.

Reloading can be as safe as shooting factory if you want. If you want to live on the edge, just fill a 300Winmag case with Bullseye powder and see how that goes. It might be survivable.


I reload but seems odd that the second case would ignite the way it did. Looks like the primer was hit.
 
If I had to guess I'd say it was a bore obstruction or a double charge.

Its important to look inside your cases to make sure the powder is at the same level in all cases. A double charge or uncharged case will stand out.

You can also use pistol powders like trail boss which is so bulky that double charges would be virtually impossible.

Hopefully the shooter escaped with eyes and hands intact.
 
Question, How do we know it was reloads that caused the boom?

Shooting any firearm with any type of ammunition is always a risk. You are causing a controlled explosion to occur when you pull the trigger.
If the bore is clear, the load is correct and the firearm is in good working condition then there usually is not a problem.
But all those factors are required for the controlled explosion to occur safely.
You always need to be aware where your shot went after the explosion before you fire the firearm again.
None of this "did you see where it hit" crap. If you didn't see or hear where it hit then I think you need to check your weapon before you fire it again. The guys that go to the range to just make noise are the ones at the most risk of something going bad.

Knew a guy that got one of those PPS 43 guns then bought one of those build kits that can make it do, well you know what it can make it do.
He was using the spam can Bulgarian surplus 7.62x .25 and of course there was a squid and he ruined his gun. He was alright because he had the gun tied down and was pulling the trigger with a string from behind a tree.
Everything could have been great had it not been for the squid. But firing as fast as it was how did he know?
Had a friend that was teaching his wife to reload on a blue machine and you know how it happens, she gave him a double charge of powder. He was watching her (I don't blame him) and not the loader. Thankfully all it did was bulge the barrel of his Glock.

And factory ammo can be screwy too. I got some white box factory loads for my 7mm rem mag and they came from the factory with some of the primers in backwards.
So if something that obvious can slip by their QC how do you know the powder load is always correct? You don't, it's a gamble every time you pull the trigger.

That is the reason I only use a single stage loading system. One thing at a time and check and double check then check again.

Don't be stupid guys, be safe. And if you load your own, please don't drink while you do it, it will make you sloppy which can cause a really bad boom.
 
The fellow who experienced this was firing his own loads.
 
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Lock out die and visual confirmation of each round lets me way better at night.

this. I went with a Dillion powder check tool on my LNL after one of my first pistol loads didn’t get any powder, resulting in the primer pushing the round just far enough into the bore to allow the next round to chamber. Thank god I was paying extra attention. Order the powder check same day and didn’t load anymore until I had it set up.
 
I'd guess either a double charge of a low volume powder, the wrong powder, or a short charge of a fast powder. Don't see how a squib would blow the neighboring cylinders.
 
Take a closer look. That was not 2 rounds going off. It was three. The one in the middle is gone. :eek:
Don't think so, I'd have to see the primer strikes to believe there was more than one discharge. The gases from the one cartridge did all the wrecking, jmho.
 
Don't think so, I'd have to see the primer strikes to believe there was more than one discharge. The gases from the one cartridge did all the wrecking, jmho.


I don't think the primers on the second two cartridges have been struck and would agree gasses from the first set of the other two but that brass didn't blow outward from external pressure. I bet money the powder in those second two went off also. My guess would be the first went off and the resulting damage pierced the brass on the second two setting them off as well. Just my opinion and it is worth what you paid for it.
 
The exploding cartridge blew through the cylinder walls and ignited the cartridges to either side.

Similar to how it could ignite cartridges in the magazine stack, had it been a semi auto.
 
Reloading is as safe, or as dangerous as YOU make it. YOU are in complete control of everything that happens, good or bad.

As to the picture, I call BS, the brass shows signs of upward expansion and with no way to inspect the primers of the 2 rounds I'll have to call BS.
Change my mind......
 
I reload but seems odd that the second case would ignite the way it did. Looks like the primer was hit.
The second cases didn't fire. He posted some other pictures later and primers on the other rounds are still live. The blast ripped the other 2 bullets apart!
 
No, this wasn’t my 629-4. I lifted the photo from another forum. :eek:

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I read the post in another forum as well. The owner admitted to it being a double charge. He had the balls to post and admit his error in hopes it would keep others on their toes. It's easy to get complacent when loading a bunch at one time. You get into a rhythm and stop paying attention. Anytime I'm loading a bunch of rounds and find my mind wandering, I pack it in for the day. I do have a powder check on my Dillon 650 that is supposed to alert in case of a double charge, but things do fail.
 
There are several steps in the reloading process that can reduce the possibility of this happening. First, pay attention. I get in a rhythm on my progressive press when I reload, and always look down in the cartridge before I place a bullet, checking that the powder level looks correct. Can I visually tell a 0.5gn difference in charge? No, but I can tell an empty or a double-charge. (FWIW, I have had one squib load, before I made this my standard practice - nothing damaged). Second, pick a powder that is bulky enough that a double charge will overflow a case, or prevent seating of the bullet.

Pardon me for saying this (half tongue-in-cheek) but I'm still wondering why a non-reloader felt it necessary to start a thread titled "why I don't reload" in a reloading section and post a photo like this. It would be like someone posting a photo of a car accident in an automotive forum and title it "why I take the bus". o_O What was the point? Were they hoping to convert someone? :)
 
Pardon me for saying this (half tongue-in-cheek) but I'm still wondering why a non-reloader felt it necessary to start a thread titled "why I don't reload" in a reloading section and post a photo like this. It would be like someone posting a photo of a car accident in an automotive forum and title it "why I take the bus". o_O What was the point? Were they hoping to convert someone? :)
“They” thought it interesting and worthy of sharing. As to where “they” posted it, “they” were concerned a post in the classifieds might have garnered only “wish you were closer” responses. Regarding the title, “they” didn’t think of using “I’m gunna start reloading tomorrow morning” or “Why reloading should become a felony”.

I’m not sure about “they” but, there are several reasons I don’t reload. These include:
Not seeing an economic advantage considering the ammo mix I currently shoot
Limited space
An attention span extremely conducive to potentially catastrophic mistakes
 
“They” thought it interesting and worthy of sharing. As to where “they” posted it, “they” were concerned a post in the classifieds might have garnered only “wish you were closer” responses. Regarding the title, “they” didn’t think of using “I’m gunna start reloading tomorrow morning” or “Why reloading should become a felony”.

I’m not sure about “they” but, there are several reasons I don’t reload. These include:
Not seeing an economic advantage considering the ammo mix I currently shoot
Limited space
An attention span extremely conducive to potentially catastrophic mistakes
Then "You" definitely should not start reloading. I get it, and I won't argue with you about it. ;)
 
I’m not sure about “they” but, there are several reasons I don’t reload. These include:
Not seeing an economic advantage considering the ammo mix I currently shoot
Limited space
An attention span extremely conducive to potentially catastrophic mistakes

It's not real clear what the objective of the original post was... It could have been a PSA about the dangers of reloading in a forum where reloaders are known to congregate... It could have been a word of warning to be careful, but there weren't any words to that effect.
Newsflash: firearms are inherently dangerous for the incompetent and those who don't pay attention. Reloading is just a part of that.
 
I reload and have for years. I have had two squibs in all the loading I have done.

One was a 44 mag that didnt.exit the barrel. I wasn't sure about that one. The other was a 45acp that fired and just went into the rifling. There was a ton of powder on top of the magazine. That one was a bad primer.

I am careful not contaminate primets when priming. Clean hands and all.

Now with factory ammo. I check the primers and cases on these. I bought a box of Rem 223. On checking this box I found that a primer had been seated sideways in the pocket. It was still live. I honestly could no see how it did not detonate. Part of the cup was smeared across the base of the case. I sent it back to Remmimgton. I got a nice letter and a small check to buy another box with.

Stuff happens. Accidents are called that for a reason. They are not planned events. Life is full of risks. Plan accordingly.

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