224 Valkyrie: who’s building or buying one?
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billyh
Slightly Cooler Than Your Mom
AR Performance is going to have some 22" barrels soon. It looks like a decent round to shoot the heavies but with all the 6mm wildcats out there I don't know if this is going to be a fad or last a while.
OP
Federal did it right; they got a ton of market support prior to the release of the round. Here’s a good article on it:
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/...-valkyrie-hits-ground-running-4-years-making/
Ballistic Advantage released the first of their 224V line today (However NOT shipping till mid March). Started with 18" in fluted and non fluted.
http://ballisticadvantage.com/ar-parts/ar-barrels/224-valkyrie-premium-series
They said they will also release 6.8spc bolts needed for the 224V but no ETA.
http://ballisticadvantage.com/ar-parts/ar-barrels/224-valkyrie-premium-series
They said they will also release 6.8spc bolts needed for the 224V but no ETA.
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gaberelli
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Agree. I think the 6mm is the sweet spot for lighter bullets in the 6.8 case. Loved my BHW 6x6.8.
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I agree with this. I already have .223 and 6.5g for longer range out of AR platform. I think a 6mm would be perfect over shooting heavier .223 pills.
http://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-...inless-steel-barrel-bcg-combo-5165447820.html
Just saw this posted. There has been a good amount of discussion on other forums about optimal twist rates in 224V for those wanting to use the 90gr or higher. Seems many may be waiting to get a 1:6.5 or 1:6 twist vs 1:7. Supposedly Criterion pulled their 1:7 and will be replacing with a faster twist rate as a result of some of their testing.
Just saw this posted. There has been a good amount of discussion on other forums about optimal twist rates in 224V for those wanting to use the 90gr or higher. Seems many may be waiting to get a 1:6.5 or 1:6 twist vs 1:7. Supposedly Criterion pulled their 1:7 and will be replacing with a faster twist rate as a result of some of their testing.
OP
The 224V out performs the Grendel based on what I’ve seen.
In my case, a 6mm is a no go if I want to suppress it. My 7.62 can is impractically heavy for the platform; I have a couple 5.56 cans that fit the bill if I ever want to suppress the 224V
I wasn't interested until I saw this...
https://liveqordie.com/products/mini-fix-by-q
That I want. Now.
https://liveqordie.com/products/mini-fix-by-q
That I want. Now.
I agree the 224 does outperform in BC and as a precision round. How about sectional density? I think they both the 224V and 6.5G have their nich. To me the 6mm is a happy medium between the two.
I run a SiCo Omega 30 and it is really light, my only complaint is it is long for the platform with the brake and ASR attached. I wouldn't have an issue running it with a 6mm variant.
I'd like to get one I just can't justify it at the moment. I've got no real use for one, considering I'm already in the process of building a 6.5cm for long range and a 20" 5.56 for practice.
I think I'll wait a year and see what the market is like then.
I think I'll wait a year and see what the market is like then.
How come? I mean, I'm not a c/f .22 fan & it's just another hotrodded .22 in my opinion, but what's bad about it?
The whole idea behind the round is to stay supersonic past 1100yds in a AR15.
Thats the only goal of the calibers design.
You get that with a 18" 1:7.5" 6.5 Grendel. Without the loss of a barrel in 1500rnds, and the ability to stabilize the bullet.
Right now 22cf bullets above 70grn in the .224val need a 1:6" to manage the fps and range.
A jacked bullet with tip, are being spun to pieces.
It's no different then getting a 220swift and chambering a 1:7"
Thats the only goal of the calibers design.
You get that with a 18" 1:7.5" 6.5 Grendel. Without the loss of a barrel in 1500rnds, and the ability to stabilize the bullet.
Right now 22cf bullets above 70grn in the .224val need a 1:6" to manage the fps and range.
A jacked bullet with tip, are being spun to pieces.
It's no different then getting a 220swift and chambering a 1:7"
Ah, so. See, I know nothing about .22 centerfires. I reckon the .223/5.56 works well enough for it's purposes, but I've never been a fan of the round. If shooting ~200lb mammals is the goal, I have a 18" 6.8SPC. I've shot moa with it at 300yds, but no opportunity to take it further. I was really digging on the 6.5G, but 6.5G uppers were considerably more expensive than 6.8SPC at the time, so that's the route I chose & it works perfectly for my purposes.
Shame you can't get the .473" AR15 bolts & barrel extensions anymore, as I'd love to try a .270AR or .257Bobcat.
Shame you can't get the .473" AR15 bolts & barrel extensions anymore, as I'd love to try a .270AR or .257Bobcat.
I think the idea of any caliber voodoo is 100% marketing hype.
I can tell you that a CF .224 gets the job done on 300lbs of fresh meat, sometimes 1, or 10 depending on factors.
I can tell you that the smart person for a .224val needs a properly done QPQ barrel, and I would not go beyond 20" in with a spr or lighter weight profile in a forged upper. I would also look at XL gas systems and port it, not adjustable it on the gas block.
Billet & 20" + barrels is a bad idea.
All the way around the concept is fun, allot of headake for the home builder. By the time a home builder gets it running, shooting tight, it's time to rebarrel.
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I like the unusual & the different, hence my fascination with the .41Mag. I won't say I got lucky with my 6.8, but I did a bunch of research beforehand & bought a quality upper & LPK.
I'd love to try my hand at 500yds, but have nowhere to shoot that far & not enough glass (& likely skill) to boot. In another lifetime, I shot M16A1s at 400yds with irons. Did pretty well back then, but I'd love to stretch out a bit & my eyes just aren't what they used to be.
I'd love to try my hand at 500yds, but have nowhere to shoot that far & not enough glass (& likely skill) to boot. In another lifetime, I shot M16A1s at 400yds with irons. Did pretty well back then, but I'd love to stretch out a bit & my eyes just aren't what they used to be.
backwoodsshooter
there’s always a method to the madness
I had thought about getting this round. But Harrison's (owner of AR15 Performance) Tac 6, 556x42 just fit better. If I only had to go on factory ammo then sure the Valkyrie would be the top of my list
I am close to selling my 6.8 barrel to fund a TAC 6 barrel.
I am close to selling my 6.8 barrel to fund a TAC 6 barrel.
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OP
Just completed mine tonight. LaRue barrel and bolt. Syrac adjustable gas block. Will be shooting the Hornady 88 grain ELD-M when they release it.
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Looks good brother
Running a Recce 5 on it?
I was all set to build one to have when my OPM arrived but several things have really set me back (most recently a hit and run accident). Pretty disappointed.
gaberelli
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Bummer man... hit and run?! Cowards!
Saving up for a Recce 7 to use on my 6.8s too. Have all Griffin MDs just waiting!!
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Horerczy
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Strangely 224V is showing up in walmart of all places. We got some federal 75 grain TMJ rounds in at my store and i saw some at another store as well. 20 rounds for $10.
Almost makes me want to build one after i finish my Beowulf pistol.
Almost makes me want to build one after i finish my Beowulf pistol.