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HOUSTON — Five police officers in Houston were shot, according to the city’s police department.

In a tweet, police said officers were responding to 7800 Harding in Houston Monday when officers were hit with gunfire following an encounter with a suspect.

Mayor Sylvester Turner said the shooting suspect is down, but did not provide any further information.

Police said the officers were transported to Memorial Hermann Hospital, Medical Center and Ben Taub General Hospital. Their conditions were not immediately known.

Joe Gamaldi, president of the Houston Police Officers’ Union, says one of the injured officers was taken to a hospital by helicopter.

The mayor called for prayers.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/wgntv.com/2019/01/28/3-cops-in-houston-shot-mayor-says/amp/
 
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Serving a narcotics warrant

I know an HPD Officer. Hopefully he’s safe
 
Bummer. My coworker was just asking me if I had booked my trip to Houston for the big event we can go to in March. I said why the heck would I want to go to Houston? Been there. Shit hole. No thanks. Hope the officers make it. Cannot wait to see the perps.
 
11B CIB said:
Serving a narcotics warrant

I know an HPD Officer. Hopefully he’s safe
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There is a report of multiple shooters from inside the house at the scene. The rumor is 2 LEO’s are in serious condition and little info on the other 3. Serving a narcotics warrant in SE Houston ... unless it was a HRT squad those LEO’s could easily be out gunned by the hood rats of SE Houston.
 
SPST said:
Two Denver, Co officers were also shot.

https://www.denverpost.com/2019/01/28/denver-police-standoff-suspect-dead/
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From that story ...
On Feb. 4, 2013, Denver police arrested him on charges of felony kidnapping, kidnapping by seizing or carrying the victim and two counts of child abuse, Denver District Court records show. A police affidavit from the case states that Quintana, who lived at the same Inca Street address at the time, had gotten into his girlfriend’s car and threatened to stab her in the neck with a razor he was holding in his hand. The woman’s two young children were in the backseat at the time. When Quintana later exited the car, he slashed one of the woman’s tires before fleeing.

Quintana entered into a plea agreement, and he pleaded guilty to lesser charges of misdemeanor assault and menacing with a real or simulated weapon in exchange for the dismissal of the kidnapping and child abuse charges. He was sentenced on Aug. 15, 2014, to two years of probation. When he violated terms of his probation, he was sentenced to 90 days in jail, court records show.
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F’ing plea agreement??? That ADA should be kicked in the balls every hour on the hour 2 years for cutting that damn plea deal.
 
NCFubar said:
From that story ...

F’ing plea agreement??? That ADA should be kicked in the balls every hour on the hour 2 years for cutting that damn plea deal.
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When will the police or police unions simply refuse to work for the DA's in lefty hellholes? It is not in their best interest. And they will not get any real support. They should wake up and flee those places. Let the cities hire gamg bangers.
 
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That's awful. Prayers for the officers.

I almost took a job in Houston, flight medic with Hermann Life Flight. Hermann sees a ton of trauma (obviously).

Hopeful all officers will be ok.
 
NCFubar said:
From that story ...

F’ing plea agreement??? That ADA should be kicked in the balls every hour on the hour 2 years for cutting that damn plea deal.
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In each ball, with each foot... so that’s 4 kicks per hour....
Someone find that DA’s info and post it so they can be blasted, and have their career dismantled for their lack of honor
 
Please deals, numerous charges, serve months not years, concurrent instead of consecutive. Release and repeat offend.
 
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Spartan01 said:
In each ball, with each foot... so that’s 4 kicks per hour....
Someone find that DA’s info and post it so they can be blasted, and have their career dismantled for their lack of honor
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You could take every DA and find a whole bunch of the same stuff.
 
So, they send these few officers to a drug house, yet send a fully kitted out swat team with CNN reporters to an old mans house in florida who has no passport, isn't a flight risk, and has a blind wife...

Makes total sense...
 
B00ger said:
So, they send these few officers to a drug house, yet send a fully kitted out swat team with CNN reporters to an old mans house in florida who has no passport, isn't a flight risk, and has a blind wife...

Makes total sense...
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Two different animals altogether.
 
CZfool68 said:
Then the drug cartels would find another illegal way to make money. Thugs gonna be thugs and do thug things. Those people aren't suddenly going to become programmers and IT professionals.
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Like what?

When prohibition ended, a lot of people just went out of business.
 
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B00ger said:
So, they send these few officers to a drug house, yet send a fully kitted out swat team with CNN reporters to an old mans house in florida who has no passport, isn't a flight risk, and has a blind wife...

Makes total sense...
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What's odd is that HPD has a pretty solid tac team. Sounds like they got bad intel about the occupants. I dunno; just armchair quarterbacking.
 
NKD said:
Like what?

When prohibition ended, a lot of people just went out of business.
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Pretty sure the big groups run by the mod didn't just go out of business. Maybe the small family run operations that were selling a little booze to put food on the table did though.

Probably child slavery, prostitution, protection rackets and book making. Maybe some burglary for fun. I don't know for sure since I don't hang in those circles.
 
CZfool68 said:
Pretty sure the big groups run by the mod didn't just go out of business. Maybe the small family run operations that were selling a little booze to put food on the table did though.

Probably child slavery, prostitution, protection rackets and book making. Maybe some burglary for fun. I don't know for sure since I don't hang in those circles.
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So, Mexican drug cartels are going to lose their number 1 commodity, and turn to book making and hookers?

Cocaine has financed everyone from Pablo Escobar to El Chapo. They made hundreds of billions in cash and allowed them to control the politics, police, and everything in local and national government and law enforcement. To say nothing of its effects here across the border.

Don't see that happening with hookers and card games or sports bets.
 
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NKD said:
Like what?

When prohibition ended, a lot of people just went out of business.
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Most states that legalized marijuana now have a "tax-free" black market of marijuana, same ol' familiar dealer, same product you know and love, less money than the dispensary.

I'm sure they don't do the volume they once did, but this is also the last man in the supply chain, cartel level, you're gonna be getting your product into the legal/taxed stream too. Organized crime is making money in almost, if not, all legal commodity trade through illegal acts, they'd endure this too.
 
Beef15 said:
Most states that legalized marijuana now have a "tax-free" black market of marijuana, same ol' familiar dealer, same product you know and love, less money than the dispensary.

I'm sure they don't do the volume they once did, but this is also the last man in the supply chain, cartel level, you're gonna be getting your product into the legal/taxed stream too. Organized crime is making money in almost, if not, all legal commodity trade through illegal acts, they'd endure this too.
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Well, being from CA and being related to a person in that business: the cost of black market has plummeted.

To use the alcohol analogy again: sure, people are making money in black market alcohol. It's a pittance compared to the Prohibition days.
 
Source: https://www.foxnews.com/us/houston-police-officers-unions-president

Don't see how this helps:

He (Houston Police Officer's Union President) also had a message for those calling police officers the “enemy.”

“And for the ones who are out there spreading the rhetoric that police officers are the enemy, well just know we’ve all got your number now and we’re going to be keeping track of all y’all and we’re going to be making sure we’re going to be holding you accountable every time you stir the pot on our police officers,” he said.
 
GreatGazoo said:
Source: https://www.foxnews.com/us/houston-police-officers-unions-president

Don't see how this helps:

He (Houston Police Officer's Union President) also had a message for those calling police officers the “enemy.”

“And for the ones who are out there spreading the rhetoric that police officers are the enemy, well just know we’ve all got your number now and we’re going to be keeping track of all y’all and we’re going to be making sure we’re going to be holding you accountable every time you stir the pot on our police officers,” he said.
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Shocking, I tell ya! Shocking!

Let's see....1st, 4th, 5th...6th, 7th....8th.....

Yep, nothing to see here folks. Move along.
 
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No doubt they had some NEST cameras or similar at the drug house and saw the officers arriving.
 
NKD said:
So, Mexican drug cartels are going to lose their number 1 commodity, and turn to book making and hookers?
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If that were true, if there were enough money in those things to rival drugs, then I'll assert that they are already doing those as much as they can. It's simple business logic. Diversify, seek new revenue streams, grow the business.

It's as if suddenly phones were illegal, Apple wouldn't just switch to making equivalent billions off their less effective product lines, they would just have to downsize and/or die off. If they could make more money on the non-phone product lines, they would absolutely already be doing that right now. they would not leave profits on the table in one area at the expense of another, they have the capitol to run both business units at whatever capacity the market will bear. bare? sell? sail? dammit, you know what I mean.

So, to summarize:

drugs = iphones
hookers = itunes
human trafficking = mac

drugs make money for all the bad guys, either selling them, locking people up around them, or taking your money to 'fight' them. the 5 cops shot here are just part of the .gov side of the money making scheme, pawns in the game.
 
Cowboy said:
Most of the serious drug houses have full on surveillance systems.
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... and the hood grapevine too! More times than not the hood rats hanging on the corners, front porches, roach coaches, etc will “broadcast” po po is in the hood to warn those who need to scatter.
 
NCFubar said:
... and the hood grapevine too! More times than not the hood rats hanging on the corners, front porches, roach coaches, etc will “broadcast” po po is in the hood to warn those who need to scatter.
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We had a guy in statesville shooting up places and trying to kill people since 2017 just got caught 2 weeks ago. That early warning system they have is pretty darn good.
 
NKD said:
So, Mexican drug cartels are going to lose their number 1 commodity, and turn to book making and hookers?

Cocaine has financed everyone from Pablo Escobar to El Chapo. They made hundreds of billions in cash and allowed them to control the politics, police, and everything in local and national government and law enforcement. To say nothing of its effects here across the border.

Don't see that happening with hookers and card games or sports bets.
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Look I think all the federal drugs laws are totally unconstitutional. But legalizing it all won't solve crime. Heard a guy from the cannabis industry today on the radio talking about the cartels under cutting pricing because of the tax and regulatory burdens placed on legal cannabis. I'mmguessing alot of people will choose the cheaper option. People seem to do that with most products regardless of safety or quality. It may shrink the market somewhat but the criminals are still going to be criminals. Once legal cannabis reaches a certain size and momentum nationwide I could see the cartels getting violent and burning or bombing legal cannabis businesses. Rarely does a business or industry just collapse without a fight. Maybe they'll market something else. just can't see them all joining the local YMCA and getting jobs.
 
CZfool68 said:
Look I think all the federal drugs laws are totally unconstitutional. But legalizing it all won't solve crime.
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I’m going to stop you right there.
Nobody (including me) has implied, insinuated, or said doing anything (or doing nothing) would “stop crime”.
Crime will exist as long as humans do.


But there is no pimp in history who has made the kind of money theee guys are making. This is because we have made a simple white powder that can be produced by peasants in the jungle worth 5-20x pure gold!
And, this in countries that are dirt poor.

It is the source of Narco power in South America. The only thing that could possibly replace it would be another illegal drug. Period full stop.

As to the rest of your post: legalization in Oregon has cut prices 50-70%. I know this to be true because I was just there. I know people in that business.
If some Mexican/columbian cartels think they can grow it for cheaper and “undercut” that, they are mistaken. It doesn’t grow by itself. It takes a lot of time, knowledge, and money to produce quality. Its doing exactly what the free market does by itself: becoming reasonable. A simple plant is no longer 400$ per ounce.
They are not going to undercut anybody. They certainly ain’t going to make enough money selling weed to buy governments and armies, I am afraid.
 
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NKD said:
I’m going to stop you right there.
Nobody (including me) has implied, insinuated, or said doing anything (or doing nothing) would “stop crime”.
Crime will exist as long as humans do.


But there is no pimp in history who has made the kind of money theee guys are making. This is because we have made a simple white powder that can be produced by peasants in the jungle worth 5-20x pure gold!
And, this in countries that are dirt poor.

It is the source of Narco power in South America. The only thing that could possibly replace it would be another illegal drug. Period full stop.

As to the rest of your post: legalization in Oregon has cut prices 50-70%. I know this to be true because I was just there. I know people in that business.
If some Mexican/columbian cartels think they can grow it for cheaper and “undercut” that, they are mistaken. It doesn’t grow by itself. It takes a lot of time, knowledge, and money to produce quality. Its doing exactly what the free market does by itself: becoming reasonable. A simple plant is no longer 400$ per ounce.
They are not going to undercut anybody. They certainly ain’t going to make enough money selling weed to buy governments and armies, I am afraid.
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Ok. Let's wait for other states to legalize and see what happens. We can argue all day long, but until something changes it is all speculation. Or maybe we can get Jim Acosta or someone to go interview drug kingpins and major dealers in OR, CA and CO and ask them what they are doing for work now.
 
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CZfool68 said:
Ok. Let's wait for other states to legalize and see what happens. We can argue all day long, but until something changes it is all speculation. Or maybe we can get Jim Acosta or someone to go interview drug kingpins and major dealers in OR, CA and CO and ask them what they are doing for work now.
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Or we could just look at Portugal, that decriminalized everything like 15 years ago.....
 
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