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What I think would be interesting is to look into what other countries, like the Netherlands, which have liberal drug policies have done and what the results have been.
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The other things to think about with that is size and location correlations as well. Considering there is roughly 309 million more people it is a tough correlation. I would like to see a change with drug laws honestly. Obviously there are drugs that can't be permitted at all like fentanyl and heroin imo. But I don't personally think search warrants should be done for anything not a felony which would do away with a lot problems.
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I was talking to a missionary that lived and planted churches in Amsterdam. He said that the crime was actually worse than reported that most people just lived with it in areas around the known districts. Now was that just him giving the missionary answer? I don't know.
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Thanks. In this case I at this point have seen enough to wonder. But with no real information I think it would be hard to form an opinion let alone spin a yarn like those of some blogs.
I view the blogs the same way I look at special police units. If you are paid to "drugs" or famous/paid for "Government Bad" or "F Democrats or Republicans" some are gonna do their thing sometimes stretching the truth.
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Houston police officer connected to deadly raid, shootout relieved of duty
Keri Blakinger, St. John Barned-Smith, Samantha Ketterer, Jay R. Jordan | on February 8, 2019
Photo: Godofredo A. Vasquez, Houston Chronicle / Staff Photographer
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Seventeen bullet holes can be seen on the front entrance of 7815 Harding Street, where five Houston Police officers were shot while serving a warrant Tuesday, Jan. 29, 2019, in Houston.
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The location of the 7800 block of Harding Street, near the scene where several HPD officers were shot Monday.
A Houston police officer has been relieved of duty in light of "ongoing questions" stemming from a botched drug raid that left a couple dead and five officers wounded, police said Thursday.
It's not clear what role the officer played in the Jan. 28 bust at 7815 Harding, but law enforcement sources said his suspension comes amid a probe into questions over whether the sworn affidavit used to justify the no-knock warrant may have contained false information.
It's not clear if the two developments are connected.
Investigators are also reviewing whether internal police policies and procedures were followed during the drug investigation, sources said.
"I know that in addition to the officer-involved shooting itself, many have questions regarding the circumstances surrounding the search warrant," Chief Art Acevedo said Thursday in response to news of the officer's suspension. "All of these questions are part of our ongoing criminal and administrative investigations."
READ THE WARRANT: Search warrant from drug raid that left five officers injured released
Instead of "releasing piecemeal information," Acevedo said, the department will report findings once they've wrapped up the internal investigation. He declined to identify or release any details about the officer in question and did not specify whether the investigation would focus on the possibility of false information in the affidavit.
"When an officer-involved shooting occurs at HPD, we consider it a legal and moral obligation to conduct a thorough and impartial investigation into the circumstances leading up to and resulting in the officer-involved shooting," he said. "There is a lot of speculation as to the circumstances regarding this officer-involved shooting at 7815 Harding Street, but we urge everyone to let the investigation take its proper course and proceed to conclusion."
As is standard practice with officer-involved shootings, the Harris County District Attorney's Office will launch a civil rights investigation into the case and eventually turn over findings to a grand jury.
"Our Civil Rights Division prosecutors are currently working with the Houston Police Department's special investigation team to look at every aspect of this incident," District Attorney Kim Ogg said Thursday in a statement. "As is our policy, every shooting by a police officer — in every instance — is presented to a grand jury to determine if any criminal charges are warranted."
Houston Police Officers' Union President Joe Gamaldi dismissed "rumors" about the suspended officer, adding that "nearly all" officers relieved of duty come back to work following an investigation. He said the probe has been hampered by the inability of the case agent to talk with investigators; the case agent was among those officers shot during the raid.
"The department made the decision to relieve the officer of duty while a thorough investigation continues," he said. "Rumors will undoubtedly continue until the case agent is able to be interviewed. Unfortunately, his gunshot wound has resulted in him being incapacitated while surgeries continue. Any assumptions or conclusions made prior to the interview taking place are just assumptions."
No-knock raid
The drug probe leading up to the botched bust started on Jan. 8, when officials say an anonymous caller phoned police to complain that her daughter was "doing drugs" inside the Harding Street home.
When officers showed up, they didn't see any suspicious activity, but stopped a passerby to ask if she'd called 911. She hadn't, but — according to what Acevedo told reporters at a Jan. 31 press conference — the woman allegedly turned back to her phone call and said, "Hey the police are at the dope house."
Afterward, police launched a full-on investigation and eventually sent in a confidential informant, authorities said. That buy allegedly netted some quantity of heroin, though officials have never said how much of the drug they recovered.
The next day, police used that purchase as a key piece of their request for a no-knock search warrant at the quiet Pecan Park home. In a three-page sworn affidavit, officers laid out their reasons for the raid.
Before the buy, police said they met with the informant — who'd worked with them on 10 other cases — and searched the informant for drugs before the buy. The informant came out of the house, according to the court filing, and turned over a packet of a brown powder described as "boy," which is slang for heroin.
The informant also warned police of a "large quantity" of drugs inside, packaged in plastic baggies, and a 9mm handgun, according to the court filing.
When presented on Jan. 28 with the police affidavit — written by an officer whose name was redacted in public records — a municipal court judge signed off on the warrant. Hours later, police crashed through the couple's front door, sparking a gun battle that left Dennis Tuttle, Rhogena Nicholas and their pitbull dog dead. In the process, five officers were wounded, including four who were shot.
Ultimately, investigators found small amounts of marijuana and cocaine, but no heroin. They also found two 12-gauge shotguns, a 20-gauge shotgun, a .22-caliber rifle and a second rifle — but no 9mm handgun described in the warrant.
Mixed reactions
Afterwards, the couple's friends and family pushed back on the idea that 59-year-old Tuttle — a disabled Navy veteran — and his wife could be drug users.
Monique Caballero, a friend of the couple who has been outspoken in her questioning of the official narrative of the raid, gushed with anger and relief at hearing the news Thursday that the officer had been relieved of duty.
"It's about time they look into what needs to be done," she said. "I firmly believe they went to the wrong house and now they're trying to cover it up, and it pisses me off that that head of the union wants to call my friend a dirtbag — you can't retract that. You can't retract and you can't bring back the dead."
Union officials on Thursday pushed back on speculation that the raid took place at the wrong house.
"To be clear, officers were not on the wrong street and entry was not made at random," Gamaldi said, in the union's statement. "We would refer you to the call slip from that location on Jan. 8, over two weeks prior to the shooting."
Ashton Woods, a local activist who criticized the department's handling of the bust as well as the union's fiery response afterward, lauded news of the disciplinary action while still pushing for closer scrutiny.
"This whole situation has been suspicious from the jump," he said. "I'm glad that they're being investigated but it sounds like it's time for Houston police to bring in an outside entity to investigate the case."
Since the raid, the couple's home has been boarded up, with flags, balloons and flowers on the doorsteps and messages and a Bible verse scrawled on nailed-down wood.
"Matthew 6:10-13 RIP", someone wrote on the door. In the Bible, that verse starts, "Thy kingdom come, thy will be done, on earth as it is in heaven."
Neighbor Sarah Sanchez, 42, said she'd been friends with Tuttle and Nicholas for years, and that she'd frequently trusted them to take her kids to school. She never believed the couple was dealing drugs, she said.
"The truth will all come out," she said. "It's not going to bring them back, but it's going to clear their names and bring them justice."
Janie Aviles, 25, said she never knew Tuttle and Nicholas well but always saw them as nice people who waved and said hello when they crossed paths. She never thought her neighbors had drug activity — not enough people went in and out of the house.
"(The police) should have done things differently," she said. "Maybe this wouldn't have happened."
Keri Blakinger, St. John Barned-Smith, Samantha Ketterer, Jay R. Jordan | on February 8, 2019
Photo: Godofredo A. Vasquez, Houston Chronicle / Staff Photographer
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Seventeen bullet holes can be seen on the front entrance of 7815 Harding Street, where five Houston Police officers were shot while serving a warrant Tuesday, Jan. 29, 2019, in Houston.
Photo: Houston Chronicle
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The location of the 7800 block of Harding Street, near the scene where several HPD officers were shot Monday.
A Houston police officer has been relieved of duty in light of "ongoing questions" stemming from a botched drug raid that left a couple dead and five officers wounded, police said Thursday.
It's not clear what role the officer played in the Jan. 28 bust at 7815 Harding, but law enforcement sources said his suspension comes amid a probe into questions over whether the sworn affidavit used to justify the no-knock warrant may have contained false information.
It's not clear if the two developments are connected.
Investigators are also reviewing whether internal police policies and procedures were followed during the drug investigation, sources said.
"I know that in addition to the officer-involved shooting itself, many have questions regarding the circumstances surrounding the search warrant," Chief Art Acevedo said Thursday in response to news of the officer's suspension. "All of these questions are part of our ongoing criminal and administrative investigations."
READ THE WARRANT: Search warrant from drug raid that left five officers injured released
Instead of "releasing piecemeal information," Acevedo said, the department will report findings once they've wrapped up the internal investigation. He declined to identify or release any details about the officer in question and did not specify whether the investigation would focus on the possibility of false information in the affidavit.
"When an officer-involved shooting occurs at HPD, we consider it a legal and moral obligation to conduct a thorough and impartial investigation into the circumstances leading up to and resulting in the officer-involved shooting," he said. "There is a lot of speculation as to the circumstances regarding this officer-involved shooting at 7815 Harding Street, but we urge everyone to let the investigation take its proper course and proceed to conclusion."
As is standard practice with officer-involved shootings, the Harris County District Attorney's Office will launch a civil rights investigation into the case and eventually turn over findings to a grand jury.
"Our Civil Rights Division prosecutors are currently working with the Houston Police Department's special investigation team to look at every aspect of this incident," District Attorney Kim Ogg said Thursday in a statement. "As is our policy, every shooting by a police officer — in every instance — is presented to a grand jury to determine if any criminal charges are warranted."
Houston Police Officers' Union President Joe Gamaldi dismissed "rumors" about the suspended officer, adding that "nearly all" officers relieved of duty come back to work following an investigation. He said the probe has been hampered by the inability of the case agent to talk with investigators; the case agent was among those officers shot during the raid.
"The department made the decision to relieve the officer of duty while a thorough investigation continues," he said. "Rumors will undoubtedly continue until the case agent is able to be interviewed. Unfortunately, his gunshot wound has resulted in him being incapacitated while surgeries continue. Any assumptions or conclusions made prior to the interview taking place are just assumptions."
No-knock raid
The drug probe leading up to the botched bust started on Jan. 8, when officials say an anonymous caller phoned police to complain that her daughter was "doing drugs" inside the Harding Street home.
When officers showed up, they didn't see any suspicious activity, but stopped a passerby to ask if she'd called 911. She hadn't, but — according to what Acevedo told reporters at a Jan. 31 press conference — the woman allegedly turned back to her phone call and said, "Hey the police are at the dope house."
Afterward, police launched a full-on investigation and eventually sent in a confidential informant, authorities said. That buy allegedly netted some quantity of heroin, though officials have never said how much of the drug they recovered.
The next day, police used that purchase as a key piece of their request for a no-knock search warrant at the quiet Pecan Park home. In a three-page sworn affidavit, officers laid out their reasons for the raid.
Before the buy, police said they met with the informant — who'd worked with them on 10 other cases — and searched the informant for drugs before the buy. The informant came out of the house, according to the court filing, and turned over a packet of a brown powder described as "boy," which is slang for heroin.
The informant also warned police of a "large quantity" of drugs inside, packaged in plastic baggies, and a 9mm handgun, according to the court filing.
When presented on Jan. 28 with the police affidavit — written by an officer whose name was redacted in public records — a municipal court judge signed off on the warrant. Hours later, police crashed through the couple's front door, sparking a gun battle that left Dennis Tuttle, Rhogena Nicholas and their pitbull dog dead. In the process, five officers were wounded, including four who were shot.
Ultimately, investigators found small amounts of marijuana and cocaine, but no heroin. They also found two 12-gauge shotguns, a 20-gauge shotgun, a .22-caliber rifle and a second rifle — but no 9mm handgun described in the warrant.
Mixed reactions
Afterwards, the couple's friends and family pushed back on the idea that 59-year-old Tuttle — a disabled Navy veteran — and his wife could be drug users.
Monique Caballero, a friend of the couple who has been outspoken in her questioning of the official narrative of the raid, gushed with anger and relief at hearing the news Thursday that the officer had been relieved of duty.
"It's about time they look into what needs to be done," she said. "I firmly believe they went to the wrong house and now they're trying to cover it up, and it pisses me off that that head of the union wants to call my friend a dirtbag — you can't retract that. You can't retract and you can't bring back the dead."
Union officials on Thursday pushed back on speculation that the raid took place at the wrong house.
"To be clear, officers were not on the wrong street and entry was not made at random," Gamaldi said, in the union's statement. "We would refer you to the call slip from that location on Jan. 8, over two weeks prior to the shooting."
Ashton Woods, a local activist who criticized the department's handling of the bust as well as the union's fiery response afterward, lauded news of the disciplinary action while still pushing for closer scrutiny.
"This whole situation has been suspicious from the jump," he said. "I'm glad that they're being investigated but it sounds like it's time for Houston police to bring in an outside entity to investigate the case."
Since the raid, the couple's home has been boarded up, with flags, balloons and flowers on the doorsteps and messages and a Bible verse scrawled on nailed-down wood.
"Matthew 6:10-13 RIP", someone wrote on the door. In the Bible, that verse starts, "Thy kingdom come, thy will be done, on earth as it is in heaven."
Neighbor Sarah Sanchez, 42, said she'd been friends with Tuttle and Nicholas for years, and that she'd frequently trusted them to take her kids to school. She never believed the couple was dealing drugs, she said.
"The truth will all come out," she said. "It's not going to bring them back, but it's going to clear their names and bring them justice."
Janie Aviles, 25, said she never knew Tuttle and Nicholas well but always saw them as nice people who waved and said hello when they crossed paths. She never thought her neighbors had drug activity — not enough people went in and out of the house.
"(The police) should have done things differently," she said. "Maybe this wouldn't have happened."
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Houston police officer connected to deadly raid, shootout relieved of duty
Keri Blakinger, St. John Barned-Smith, Samantha Ketterer, Jay R. Jordan | on February 8, 2019
Photo: Godofredo A. Vasquez, Houston Chronicle / Staff Photographer
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Seventeen bullet holes can be seen on the front entrance of 7815 Harding Street, where five Houston Police officers were shot while serving a warrant Tuesday, Jan. 29, 2019, in Houston.
Photo: Houston Chronicle
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The location of the 7800 block of Harding Street, near the scene where several HPD officers were shot Monday.
A Houston police officer has been relieved of duty in light of "ongoing questions" stemming from a botched drug raid that left a couple dead and five officers wounded, police said Thursday.
It's not clear what role the officer played in the Jan. 28 bust at 7815 Harding, but law enforcement sources said his suspension comes amid a probe into questions over whether the sworn affidavit used to justify the no-knock warrant may have contained false information.
It's not clear if the two developments are connected.
Investigators are also reviewing whether internal police policies and procedures were followed during the drug investigation, sources said.
"I know that in addition to the officer-involved shooting itself, many have questions regarding the circumstances surrounding the search warrant," Chief Art Acevedo said Thursday in response to news of the officer's suspension. "All of these questions are part of our ongoing criminal and administrative investigations."
READ THE WARRANT: Search warrant from drug raid that left five officers injured released
Instead of "releasing piecemeal information," Acevedo said, the department will report findings once they've wrapped up the internal investigation. He declined to identify or release any details about the officer in question and did not specify whether the investigation would focus on the possibility of false information in the affidavit.
"When an officer-involved shooting occurs at HPD, we consider it a legal and moral obligation to conduct a thorough and impartial investigation into the circumstances leading up to and resulting in the officer-involved shooting," he said. "There is a lot of speculation as to the circumstances regarding this officer-involved shooting at 7815 Harding Street, but we urge everyone to let the investigation take its proper course and proceed to conclusion."
As is standard practice with officer-involved shootings, the Harris County District Attorney's Office will launch a civil rights investigation into the case and eventually turn over findings to a grand jury.
"Our Civil Rights Division prosecutors are currently working with the Houston Police Department's special investigation team to look at every aspect of this incident," District Attorney Kim Ogg said Thursday in a statement. "As is our policy, every shooting by a police officer — in every instance — is presented to a grand jury to determine if any criminal charges are warranted."
Houston Police Officers' Union President Joe Gamaldi dismissed "rumors" about the suspended officer, adding that "nearly all" officers relieved of duty come back to work following an investigation. He said the probe has been hampered by the inability of the case agent to talk with investigators; the case agent was among those officers shot during the raid.
"The department made the decision to relieve the officer of duty while a thorough investigation continues," he said. "Rumors will undoubtedly continue until the case agent is able to be interviewed. Unfortunately, his gunshot wound has resulted in him being incapacitated while surgeries continue. Any assumptions or conclusions made prior to the interview taking place are just assumptions."
No-knock raid
The drug probe leading up to the botched bust started on Jan. 8, when officials say an anonymous caller phoned police to complain that her daughter was "doing drugs" inside the Harding Street home.
When officers showed up, they didn't see any suspicious activity, but stopped a passerby to ask if she'd called 911. She hadn't, but — according to what Acevedo told reporters at a Jan. 31 press conference — the woman allegedly turned back to her phone call and said, "Hey the police are at the dope house."
Afterward, police launched a full-on investigation and eventually sent in a confidential informant, authorities said. That buy allegedly netted some quantity of heroin, though officials have never said how much of the drug they recovered.
The next day, police used that purchase as a key piece of their request for a no-knock search warrant at the quiet Pecan Park home. In a three-page sworn affidavit, officers laid out their reasons for the raid.
Before the buy, police said they met with the informant — who'd worked with them on 10 other cases — and searched the informant for drugs before the buy. The informant came out of the house, according to the court filing, and turned over a packet of a brown powder described as "boy," which is slang for heroin.
The informant also warned police of a "large quantity" of drugs inside, packaged in plastic baggies, and a 9mm handgun, according to the court filing.
When presented on Jan. 28 with the police affidavit — written by an officer whose name was redacted in public records — a municipal court judge signed off on the warrant. Hours later, police crashed through the couple's front door, sparking a gun battle that left Dennis Tuttle, Rhogena Nicholas and their pitbull dog dead. In the process, five officers were wounded, including four who were shot.
Ultimately, investigators found small amounts of marijuana and cocaine, but no heroin. They also found two 12-gauge shotguns, a 20-gauge shotgun, a .22-caliber rifle and a second rifle — but no 9mm handgun described in the warrant.
Mixed reactions
Afterwards, the couple's friends and family pushed back on the idea that 59-year-old Tuttle — a disabled Navy veteran — and his wife could be drug users.
Monique Caballero, a friend of the couple who has been outspoken in her questioning of the official narrative of the raid, gushed with anger and relief at hearing the news Thursday that the officer had been relieved of duty.
"It's about time they look into what needs to be done," she said. "I firmly believe they went to the wrong house and now they're trying to cover it up, and it pisses me off that that head of the union wants to call my friend a dirtbag — you can't retract that. You can't retract and you can't bring back the dead."
Union officials on Thursday pushed back on speculation that the raid took place at the wrong house.
"To be clear, officers were not on the wrong street and entry was not made at random," Gamaldi said, in the union's statement. "We would refer you to the call slip from that location on Jan. 8, over two weeks prior to the shooting."
Ashton Woods, a local activist who criticized the department's handling of the bust as well as the union's fiery response afterward, lauded news of the disciplinary action while still pushing for closer scrutiny.
"This whole situation has been suspicious from the jump," he said. "I'm glad that they're being investigated but it sounds like it's time for Houston police to bring in an outside entity to investigate the case."
Since the raid, the couple's home has been boarded up, with flags, balloons and flowers on the doorsteps and messages and a Bible verse scrawled on nailed-down wood.
"Matthew 6:10-13 RIP", someone wrote on the door. In the Bible, that verse starts, "Thy kingdom come, thy will be done, on earth as it is in heaven."
Neighbor Sarah Sanchez, 42, said she'd been friends with Tuttle and Nicholas for years, and that she'd frequently trusted them to take her kids to school. She never believed the couple was dealing drugs, she said.
"The truth will all come out," she said. "It's not going to bring them back, but it's going to clear their names and bring them justice."
Janie Aviles, 25, said she never knew Tuttle and Nicholas well but always saw them as nice people who waved and said hello when they crossed paths. She never thought her neighbors had drug activity — not enough people went in and out of the house.
"(The police) should have done things differently," she said. "Maybe this wouldn't have happened."
This basically says nothing more than anyone already knows as fact. There was always going to be an investigation into a police shooting no matter who ends up dead.
I also love how they put this:
A Houston police officer has been relieved of duty in light of "ongoing questions" stemming from a botched drug raid that left a couple dead and five officers wounded, police said Thursday.
Then two sentences later put this:
It's not clear if the two developments are connected.
So even the local media is grasping at straws. At least this article had some more relative facts laid out.
People will read into this whatever "proof" they wanted it to mean.
"he's been suspended, that must mean he's guilty" or "They're trying to cover this up" being the most popular on this forum.
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Lol why was Tom Brady suspended a year after deflate gate?
I'm not sure relieved of duty means suspended but more like fired. You also know that with unions and everything else being, obviously strong enough to make a statement, that hasn't happened in such a short time. Plus anyone involved was more than likely put on administrative leave until investigation is completed.
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I don't know... neither do you.
Assigning any meaning to the statement just means you've already drawn your conclusion.
Actions have consequences.
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You must not know how powerful and almost untouchable police unions make every single officer.
*sarcasim*
Honestly with appeals it would be hard to do in this time period. The fact that the journalist contradicts themselves so quickly they have no idea and neither does anyone else.
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Look at their politics. That’s what it has done. Buncha fools and commies. How about this as a proposal from Trump on a National TV broadcast? The US will pass legislation ending all Federal Drug laws. But anyone that wishes to use Class ‘X’ drugs must register in a National Database. And those people will be ineligible for voting in local, state and Federal elections. Or be able to receive any form of welfare or social services.
I can see all the Dem and Free Pot crowd head’s explode. Register in a database! The horror. No registration or databases. Well good, now that we have that basis cleared up we can move on to drug testing for welfare checks and voting. Beothces.
Ok, so I’m being a little crazed. It’s that kind of day.
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https://reason.com/blog/2019/02/15/the-ci-whose-controlled-buy-led-to-a-dea
Looking like the controlled buy didn't happen.....
Looking like the controlled buy didn't happen.....
Called it...
The narcotics officer lied in the search warrant affidavit about a drug buy that never happened, Houston Police Chief Art Acevedo confirmed Friday.
https://www.khou.com/mobile/article...says/285-54ca0bb4-ba03-4e9d-ab6e-7d40bab2b356
So not an ounce of sympathy for anyone but the victims, here. May those involved not make a full recovery.
The narcotics officer lied in the search warrant affidavit about a drug buy that never happened, Houston Police Chief Art Acevedo confirmed Friday.
https://www.khou.com/mobile/article...says/285-54ca0bb4-ba03-4e9d-ab6e-7d40bab2b356
So not an ounce of sympathy for anyone but the victims, here. May those involved not make a full recovery.
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Apparently falsifying the warrant affidavit is a felony. And it resulted in two people's deaths.....
Felony Murder?
Felony Murder?
Now, they need to figure out how many other cops knew the information on the warrant affidavit was false and still let it go. The cop or cops that falsified the warrant will not see the inside of jail, thin blue line will still protect them, they will plead it down and get probation.
How many cases will have to be undone and people let out of jail over this?
How many cases will have to be undone and people let out of jail over this?
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If that's true I hope they fry his ass. Anyone who besmirches the name of good cops has no business being free.
This has always been my problem with narcotics units, they're told they have to produce results or be removed from the unit. It breeds zealots.
This has always been my problem with narcotics units, they're told they have to produce results or be removed from the unit. It breeds zealots.
I would suggest to do away with all "drug" laws. If you can't control yourself in public and harm or steal from others then pay the penalty. Otherwise Darwin will handle it.
Fixed it for you.
Not that you know you're right now either. But I guess you would close the books on the investigation based on an allegation as long as it's what you wanted to believe.
That's how innocent people get sent to prison.
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It was a made up story of a buy, to obtain a warrent( to the tune of where no heroin was found)there's the crime.It's the very thing that happens every day. My nephews best friend, was a Rockwell police officer, he quit the force, due to seeing all the corruption in his department. My question is, if it was a made up story, why did the officer in question do such a thing? Most in here will look at this as just another junkie off the street. Maybe the government should just pass laws that opens a hunting season for known drug addicts, or known theifs...
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Priority inversion. Too many people accept the idea of living according to what govt. allows. This is backwards. We The People tell govt. what it is allowed to do. It’s time to reclaim that stance.
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Couldn't agree more, but at the end of the day... It's all talk. Things like this happening is what makes me paranoid as hell to just drive to work. All it will take, is one corrupt cop to plant something on me, and it's back to the big house. My word... As most of you know in here, wouldn't stand a rain drops chance in hell, against LEO.
That doesn't change the fact that people here were willing to make the determination before the evidence was in. Kind of like the cop in question deciding someone was guilty before getting any proof. Is that who you want to emulate?
Why would you even be on their radar? If someone goes out screaming "LOOK AT ME" don't be surprised when they look at every part of you.
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I have nothing to hide.
Probably, but I still don't believe in giving them an area to create a money trough which does not legitimately exist without deciding to outlaw it.
There are actually quite a few dead people to whom you could ask that question.
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In this day and age... Nothing is a suprise anymore. The Truth... Is just that! No matter how painful it may be. I WILL SPEAK TRUTH! Have I sinned against my God? Yes. Have I asked my God to forgive me? Yes. People are inherently evil, understanding this. I put my Life in Gods hands. Not government! This world has givin itself over to evil. If those who seek out my death( because of Truth) wish to persue me, just because I have spoken the Truth. Then so be it. It would be very sobering if EVERYONE else could be honest. I am not perfect by no means, but for others to sit back a assume they are, is utterly absurd to me. "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against powers, principalities, spiritual wickedness in high places." I do not fear flesh and blood. I fear the One who has the power to destroy the living soul. The ultimate Judge of man will once again walk this earth, and His judgments are just and true. So... If someone decided to all of the sudden to disect every part of my life, because of words. I have done my job. "For in the last days, they will deliver you up to the courts, persecute you, murder you for my names sake." Jesus Christ my Lord and savior. Not government.