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Troubleshooting this for a friend but I have the rifle in my possession. Its a seekins factory build that the 223 Wylde barrel was worn out in.

Replaced the Wylde barrel with a Craddock Precision/Bartlein 24” 1:7 twist rifle +2 gas. The gas port is about .080” as close as I can gauge it.

Using E-Lander Grendel magazines, the Seekins carrier and the bolt that came with the barrel from Craddock.

The Superlative gas block is set to full open, no restriction, no bleed off.

It won’t cycle reliably. Using Hornady white box 108gr ELD factory ammo, the H1 buffer seems to not let the bolt cycle back far enough to strip the next round off the magazine, so the fired brass ejects but the following round ends up pointing up into the chamber with the carrier resting against it.

Using a carbine buffer, itll cycle but doesn’t quite have enough juice to completely go into battery; the spent case is ejected, the new round is seated in the chamber but the bolt is resting against the case but out of battery. You can hammer the forward assist and it’ll pop over the case rim or drop the mag, pull and release the CH and it’ll go into battery.

I’m a little puzzled here. I don’t have a different brand magazine to try (but the E-Landers were supposedly top notch). It seems like a gas issue (the block is aligned correctly, I checked that) but I’m a little reluctant to open the port up yet until Im certain-ish that’s the problem

thanks for any suggestions or diagnosis help
 
Just making sure...

With a loaded (or partially loaded) mag, can you hand-cycle the CH and successfully make it through all the rounds?

(don’t want you chasing a gas issue if there’s a physical problem)


It seems sometimes under gassed and over gassed give similar issues...when it’s under the bolt doesn’t go far enough back, but when it’s over it comes forward too soon. Man I hate trying to figure out gas/buffer combination issues!
 
Cycles by hand fine

My next thought, since I have a direct thread 762 can was to thread it on and basically ensure there was plenty of gas in the system to see if it cycled then but I had to stop for the day and haven’t had a chance to try that out

And yes, figuring out gas function issues is a PITA
 
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Try shutting the gas block and opening one click at a time while firing a shot between each setting. It may be over gassed.


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If the gas is wide open, no restriction, that may be the issue itself. Do what @Zbizzle911 said and turn the gas all the closed, then open in steps.

Or go the other way and just start closing it in steps. I'd like do that and close 1/8 at a time.
 
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If the gas is wide open, no restriction, that may be the issue itself. Do what @Zbizzle911 said and turn the gas all the closed, then open in steps.

Or go the other way and just start closing it in steps. I'd like do that and close 1/8 at a time.

The superlative arms block has detents at each setting. It’s pretty slick piece of kit.


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The only thing that makes me think its undergassed is that it’s not closing/going into battery with the carbine buffer. If it was over gassed I feel like it would be slamming home

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got some info from a user on SH who bought another Craddock 6ARC barrel. Undergassed with the factory port; had to drill the port to .095” to get it to function and that was with a 20” barrel. With the bits I’ve got, I can go to .93” or .109”. Debating going larger and letting the superlative gas block handle any overage
 
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The only thing that makes me think its undergassed is that it’s not closing/going into battery with the carbine buffer. If it was over gassed I feel like it would be slamming home

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got some info from a user on SH who bought another Craddock 6ARC barrel. Undergassed with the factory port; had to drill the port to .095” to get it to function and that was with a 20” barrel. With the bits I’ve got, I can go to .93” or .109”. Debating going larger and letting the superlative gas block handle any overage
I'd go slow, 0.093".
 
I’d try the can and verify undergas before drilling. I have seen those same symptoms in an overgassed ar10 except the bolt not closing.
What are your opinions on the cartridge so far? I have been eyeing it.
 
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I’d try the can and verify undergas before drilling. I have seen those same symptoms in an overgassed ar10 except the bolt not closing.
What are your opinions on the cartridge so far? I have been eyeing it.

even single loading, it’s hitting consistent 2” targets at 500yds....

hopefully when it gets running it’ll be worry free
 
She’s up and running.

I tried a C products mag just to eliminate a variable and worked better than the e-lander but still not quite there; opened the gas port up and tried again with the C products mag and it ran like it was supposed to. Brass was ejecting juuust on the forward side of 3oclock so I opened the gas block a few clicks and now it’s tossing them out at 4oclock as fast as I can pull the trigger.

More C Products/ASC mags are needed lol
 
She’s up and running.

I tried a C products mag just to eliminate a variable and worked better than the e-lander but still not quite there; opened the gas port up and tried again with the C products mag and it ran like it was supposed to. Brass was ejecting juuust on the forward side of 3oclock so I opened the gas block a few clicks and now it’s tossing them out at 4oclock as fast as I can pull the trigger.

More C Products/ASC mags are needed lol

AR stoner mags are ASC rebrands also.
 
What size drill bit was the winner?

i started with .93” and it helped but wasn’t quite there. Asked my dad if he had any other sizes since he’s got more tools than you can fit in a semi truck in his basement. He had a machinist bit set with a .98” bit and I used that. Worked like a charm!


AR stoner mags are ASC rebrands also.

That’s primarily what I use in my 224 Valkyrie. I used this one too much apparently. Funny thing is....still worked! Was feeding rounds no problem. It’s a year outside of the warranty though so I salvaged the mag body and follower in case I damage a magazine, I can put the other spring in it

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