Active Shooter being reported at Joint Base Pearl Harbor-Hickam....

[Car0linab0y]

NJP is a backhanded compliment of sorts... it means leadership thinks you're worth the effort to try and save.

 

[Millie]

OK...a little insight (geared towards those with no prior military, or Navy, experience).

Thanks for this, I have no idea about any military stuff at all.

 

[Millie]

COs deal with *ssholes and idiots all the time... but they also deal with people who just made poor choices and need to understand those choices have consequences.

This hit home to me: my brother tried to get me to get into the military eons ago, when I was only making poor choices in life! There weren't a lot of consequences for me as a result of my crappy choices, as my parents were too deep into their own stuff to deal with me. He was sure the military could help me....and he might have been correct! LoL. I had to learn about boundaries and consequences the hard way, and am still learning.....I hope!

 

[sr30]

In most cases, reduction in rate (enlisted rank in the Navy) is usually accompanied by forfeiture of a percentage of pay per months per so many months, restriction to the boat and extra duties over the course of those months. But to get that kind of punishment in NJP, whatever you did is typically something you don't want to go the Court Martial route. At least from seeing the results of various masts over the years.

@RetiredUSNChief may have more perspective given he retired and got to see more of that than I did, especially as a chief.

I had two in 5 months...

Can vouch for the RIR and 1/2 months pay for 2 months. [emoji6]

Restriction would have been worse.


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[sr30]

Yeah, guys I was in with and are still at Pearl talked to some boys from the Columbia. They said he used an M4 to shoot the 3 civilians (sounding like shipyard workers), then turned the M9 on himself.

Topside only had an M9 last I was on, along with the Shutdown Roving Watch in the Engine Room. Pier sentry (if there was one) would have had a Mossberg 500.

The thing that has me scratching my head is why you would arm a kid the day after he went to a disciplinary proceeding where he was “awarded” a reduction in rate (and probably more). That just seems asinine to me.....though I was just an enlisted puke.

My thoughts exactly about an armed watch days after Mast


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[Eltonfan59]

Anybody else find this rash of shootings suspicious to draw attention away from the impeachment fiasco? Just odd to have such similar shootings so close together. False flag events are nothing new.

 

[vaskeet]

I remember when 3 days bread and water was allowed at mast