AG’s in 16 States Embrace Background Checks On Ammo Purchases

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  1. YeeHaa

    YeeHaa Member Charter Life Member

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    If you live in Illinois, Connecticut, Delaware, the District of Columbia, Hawaii, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Virginia, or Washington you should know that your attorney general has given the green light for your state legislature to implement California-style ammunition control if they want.

    https://bearingarms.com/cam-e/2020/06/24/ags-states-checks-ammo-purchases/
     
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    Behold, the net effect of Elizabeth Warren's AWB bill now waiting in the Senate, would have a similar effect of stifling ammo sales. Imposes a 50% tax on ammo and 30% on firearm sales. A companion bill is waiting on the House.

    And in the fine print of her bill,

    • Close the so-called "boyfriend loophole" – current law bars abusive spouses from obtaining weapons, but does not apply to all abusive dating partners
    • Direct the attorney general to prosecute unlawful gun trafficking and investigate the National Rifle Association for alleged corruption
    • Direct the bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives to revoke the licenses of gun dealers that are found to routinely violate the rules
    She wrote she would push for the following legislative steps:

    • Create a federal licensing system for the purchase of any type of gun or ammunition
    • Boost the excise tax on handguns to 30% from 10% and on ammunition to 50% from 11%
     
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    Aardvark Mostly Peaceful Protester Supporting Member

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    Based on what people across the USA have seen on TV for the past weeks, perhaps our friends, family, and colleagues that have been knee-jerk antis will be more open to a presentation that:

    The 2A is not about sports.
    Most elected officials aren't smart enough to be trusted to work in their best interests.
    Letting Fistbuk and Twitverse inform your voting decisions is a bad idea.
     
  4. AR10ShooterinNC

    AR10ShooterinNC Happy to be here Supporting Member

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    Straw purchases are already illegal, maybe the government should prosecute them....they currently do not.

    AG already has the power to prosecute illegal gun trafficking

    I thought the ATF already had the power to revoke gun dealers that do not follow the rules.....

    Just more bullcrap from a failed politician.
     
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    Bailey Boat Senior Member Benefactor Supporting Member

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    If you speak doublespeak fast enough it sounds like logic...... Plus, no one except us is paying attention...

    If you want more money in the coffers, tax MASKS.....
     
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    DrScaryGuy Well-Known Member Supporting Member

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    All true. But when they pass a "common sense" bill to give themselves power they already have, they can slip in powers they don't have yet. Also, if they give themselves the same power they already have, it introduces the possibility of conflicting legislation that is impossible for people to follow - and they'll "routinely" violate the rules because of it...
     
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    Can people in restricted states reload their own ammo and bypass the background checks?
     
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    Ikarus1 Avtomat Krishna-kov

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    yes. They can also build their own firearms from lumber and pipes from a hardware store, and make molotov cocktails from those large glass bottles of hand sanitizer that every distillery in America is now making.

    And my wife asks me why I have so much lead stored up in ingots o_O
     
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  9. DrScaryGuy

    DrScaryGuy Well-Known Member Supporting Member

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    Depends on if they follow the standard federal definition.
    18 U.S.C., § 921(a)(17) "The term “ammunition” means ammunition or cartridge cases, primers, bullets, or propellent powder designed for use in any firearm."
    How will you reload to bypass the check if you can't get any component of ammo without the check?
     
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  10. JT

    JT credulous boomer rube Benefactor Life Member Supporting Member

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    Yes! And ...
    The "Mainstream Media" are not about news (if they ever really were).
     
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    Button Pusher Well-Known Member Benefactor Supporting Member

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    The last straw prosecution in NY was for the girlfriend who bought the rifle her felon boyfriend used to kill two firemen upstate NY who responded to the house fire he delibrately set. She got two years.
     
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    The straw purchaser should receive the same sentence as the criminal if a crime is committed with the gun they bought for the criminal.

    As others have mentioned just so much political yada yada. Enforcing the laws we already have would solve a lot.
     
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    Now you know why I got into reloading while still in Illinois. It wasn't cost effective at the time. It was a hedge against tyranny. Also among the reasons I moved down here among individuals who think and vote like I do.
     
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    The only reloading restriction in CA is age to buy components and availabily of same.
     
  15. DrScaryGuy

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    for now.
    until they start complaining about the "ghost ammo loophole" that allows criminals to buy all the components without background checks and make their own exploding full hollow jacket baby piercing cop killer bullets.
    gotta do something about criminals making those.
     
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    Of course, they just haven't figured it out yet.
     
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    Timfoilhat Active Member Benefactor Life Member

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    It's going to be a priority once some mentally disturbed person shoots up a soft target and creates a tragedy with "ghost" ammo. Until then, no big deal.

    Chicago had a bill for the last few years that was attempting to pass a law requiring serialized ammunition and an ammunition registration. That bill was silent on reloading. The people who worked on killing it in committee didn't even bring it up to keep it off the radar. Anti gun folks typically don't even understand their own anti gun bills much less existing law.
     
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    Those who come up with these idiotic tax ammo ideas are ignorant to the fact that the criminals use the ultimate loophole, they steal what they want, no questions asked, they don't shop at Gun's R US! and no background checks.
     
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    By definition, criminals will always be out of control. Those idiots want to control the general population.
     
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    To be clear, their goal isn't to control the criminal, that's hard and ultimately they need those criminals out there to keep the common folk afraid. Their goal is to control you.
     
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    This /\ and they also use it to bleed businesses dry. In Cook county IL the regal class decided to tax every bullet sold $.05. When you buy 100 (of anything, even .22) you pay an extra $5.00 over buying online or buying a few towns over. Net effect is it starves the brick and mortar stores of income. They also passed a $25 per gun purchased tax for all in county gun sales. Again, going down the street saves the consumer money. Whole point is to run the stores closest to Chicago out of business.

    Going further, they passed a gun dealer licensing bill for the whole state to create impossibly expensive hurdles to jump and drive all but the largest gun dealers out of business. It's been a massacre to freedom and small business owners in the state.
     
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    This doesnt suprise me at all. Most all of us saw this type of oppression coming yeas ago and maybe prepared a little. I think when Biden is elected his priority will be the dismantling of the Constitution starting with the 2nd. The 1st is dying before our eyes just in the shadows. Like Charlie Daniels recently said its time to pick a side. These Marxists wont quit until they burn down everything they wish.....thats THEIR words!
    R
     
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