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Millie

Millie

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IMG_20180806_203329.jpg Just home from trying more guns. Gave the Glocks another go, big and small ones, 9mm and .380(?). Gave the Shield a really good trial, but it's not for me. And the bigger, heavier guns made my shoulders hurt after awhile.

Tried many guns! Had some excellent instruction, covering the basics of stance, grip, one eye or two, and the one that helped the most to get the shots where I was aiming: finger on trigger placement! Still need to work on using the pad rather than the crease, but I was getting used to that at the end.

Ended up back with the same gun every time, it was just so sweet! By the end of a long morning I was hitting the bad guy where body armor probably isn't going to be. The best things I heard from my instructor: I wasn't flinching, my grip was good and then he said "outstanding!" after the last magazine was empty!

My perfect gun is.....
Oh, wait! I put my hands on a CZ75!!! Unfortunately, I can't work the parts. Had to let it go.

Ok, the winner is a Sig P238!! It never hurt my hand, the workings are smooth, and I'm going to shoot it regularly because it's fun to shoot!

I spent some $, not gonna lie, but my budget was $600 or under and I got my gun and some extras and stayed in budget!
So there we have it.....whoever recommended this beauty, thanks! It totally took me by surprise, but this is the one. Thanks to all who helped with suggestions and taking me shooting!
Now I need a gallon of water and maybe a nap!
 
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I think that is what my mother has. Being able to rack the slide was an issue and that one is easy. It also has surprisingly light recoil for its size. They're not cheap, but I think you chose well.
 
JustKeepSwimming said:
Nicely done and good for you! Now time to train, practice and buy ammo!
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This thing is so nice to shoot, training with it won't be a pain at all! I'll be making my way to Fayetteville a lot until I find a closer range.
 
noway2 said:
I think that is what my mother has. Being able to rack the slide was an issue and that one is easy. It also has surprisingly light recoil for its size. They're not cheap, but I think you chose well.
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It's shocking how smooth and UNsnappy it is!!
 
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Good choice. I really like my 938 (almost the same thing in 9) as a pocket carry when I can’t IWB.
 
Well done. Your sheriff is proud of you. :)
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I interesting choice for a person just getting started. It's certainly not the simplest gun to operate but it'll it's job.

How do you plan on carrying it? Cocked and locked, empty chamber or something else?
 
J R Green said:
I interesting choice for a person just getting started. It's certainly not the simplest gun to operate but it'll it's job.

How do you plan on carrying it? Cocked and locked, empty chamber or something else?
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I'm thinking NOT empty chamber! Safety on. That may change, but it's what I'm comfortable with at this point in my gun life.
Is it complicated to operate? I can work all the parts. What did I miss?
The main thing about it is I can shoot it comfortably, and with instruction, was able to hit where I wanted to.
And I'll be able to CC. I've owned guns before this one, but this is the easiest to shoot.
 
Millie said:
I'm thinking NOT empty chamber! Safety on. That may change, but it's what I'm comfortable with at this point in my gun life.
Is it complicated to operate? I can work all the parts. What did I miss?
The main thing about it is I can shoot it comfortably, and with instruction, was able to hit where I wanted to.
And I'll be able to CC. I've owned guns before this one, but this is the easiest to shoot.
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Guns which are carried cocked and locked with a thumb safety engaged are generally considered more complicated. In order to use them effectively you need to learn to draw, disegage the thumb safety, at the right time, and fire the gun. Guns without a thumb safety do not require the additional step. If you watch people at the range and even in competitions you will see people yanking on a dead trigger because they did not disengage the safety.

This should be one of the focal points of your training. You have to do it until it becomes ingrained muscle memory. If you have to think about it if you have to draw under stress you might miss it.
 
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Millie said:
I'm thinking NOT empty chamber! Safety on. That may change, but it's what I'm comfortable with at this point in my gun life.
Is it complicated to operate? I can work all the parts. What did I miss?
The main thing about it is I can shoot it comfortably, and with instruction, was able to hit where I wanted to.
And I'll be able to CC. I've owned guns before this one, but this is the easiest to shoot.
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Some people carry with the chamber empty, the problem there is when you need a gun right now because someone is dragging you down an alley or pounding your head into the sidewalk racking a slide just became nearly impossible.

Cocked and locked for a small gun that will most likely be carried in a purse or pocket often inexplicably gets the safety disengaged. Not the end of the world but something to be aware of when you put your finger on the trigger. There have also been instances when the person carrying cocked and locked is squeezing the holy hell out of the trigger and can't get the gun to fire in the heat of battle not realizing that they forgot to remove the safety.
 
If you're going to carry chamber empty, just leave the gun at home and save the hassle of carrying it. It will be almost as useless at home as chamber empty ;)
 
Millie!!! Oh happy day!!! A decision!!! You now own a piece that will not only work for you but also have a great deal of pride in. One thing about these guns that rarely gets mentioned is that you can load and unload with the safety ON. This has been true since the first little Colts came along. I like this feature so much I "mortified" a 1911 to be able to load and unload with the safety on. In these litigious times I'm surprised more companies do not adopt this feature.
NOW...go shoot, enjoy, and most important CARRY your new gun.
 
Ammo in the chamber, otherwise you are carrying a metal brick.
The time required to chamber a round WILL get you killed, as this happened a few weeks ago to a father and son.
 
Sig P238 is a good platform. They have captured a trendy color market, many with females. My daughter saw many of these when she was looking for a carry gun and was hooked. Then we went and shot my guns and a bunch of rentals at Denver Defense ( thank you blackgun for the plug again). Then at the end of the day she selected the Glock 26 for simplicity, grip, ablility for her to make shots, and the capacity. She did not like the idea of cocked and locked at all. Neither do I. Nor switching off any safety.

I like your gun @Millie. It’s a quality gun. Which color scheme did you get?
 
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Guns which are carried cocked and locked with a thumb safety engaged are generally considered more complicated. In order to use them effectively you need to learn to draw, disegage the thumb safety, at the right time, and fire the gun. Guns without a thumb safety do not require the additional step. If you watch people at the range and even in competitions you will see people yanking on a dead trigger because they did not disengage the safety.

This should be one of the focal points of your training. You have to do it until it becomes ingrained muscle memory. If you have to think about it if you have to draw under stress you might miss it.
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I agree completely. Maybe as I get more used to my new gun, I'll decide to not use the safety, but for now it feels better to do it that way. I'll practice with it on to be sure I remember. (Or will that just make it harder to switch to not having it on?) Obviously, lots more training is going to happen for me!
 
NCLivingBrit said:
If you're going to carry chamber empty, just leave the gun at home and save the hassle of carrying it. It will be almost as useless at home as chamber empty ;)
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I'm saying NOT chamber empty! Did I do a typo?
Not empty!
 
BatteryOaksBilly said:
Millie!!! Oh happy day!!! A decision!!! You now own a piece that will not only work for you but also have a great deal of pride in. One thing about these guns that rarely gets mentioned is that you can load and unload with the safety ON. This has been true since the first little Colts came along. I like this feature so much I "mortified" a 1911 to be able to load and unload with the safety on. In these litigious times I'm surprised more companies do not adopt this feature.
NOW...go shoot, enjoy, and most important CARRY your new gun.
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I bet you're thinking you're done with all my questions, right? Lol. HAH! Not done! I'll have more, but you might get a tiny break while I figure out my training schedule! Also, I'll put up pics of my targets, especially the "outstanding" one.
 
ronn47 said:
Ammo in the chamber, otherwise you are carrying a metal brick.
The time required to chamber a round WILL get you killed, as this happened a few weeks ago to a father and son.
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I was sure I typed NOT empty! Lol.
As for the brick part, this is a heavy-ish gun, probably why it shoots so well for me!
 
It didn't work! Pic later I hope!
 
BlackGun said:
Dog P238 is a good platform. They have captured a trendy color market, many with females. My daughter saw many of these when she was looking for a carry gun and was hooked. Then we went and shot my guns and a bunch of rentals at Denver Defense ( thank you blackgun for the plug again). Then at the end of the day she selected the Glock 26 for simplicity, grip, ablility for her to make shots, and the capacity. She did not like the idea of cocked and locked at all. Neither do I. Nor switching off any safety.

I like your gun @Millie. It’s a quality gun. Which color scheme did you get?
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Can't get a pic on due to "low memory"....
But black and brown! Lol. Trying one more time.
Sorry! Can't.
 
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Jeppo said:
Better yet, how 'bout a photo of your arsenal?
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"Arsenal" ...only 4. Lol.
I can barely put pics up! You're lucky you got the one added to post, which I wanted at the END of the post, but.....anyway it's up there.
 
Congratulations on your choice, Millie. I have (er...HAD before the boat accident) several Sigs and they are definitely sweet guns.
Don't worry about the thumb safety. When you are practicing ALWAYS sweep down on the safety with your thumb to take it off. When you're carrying a pistol without a thumb safety that won't make any difference - it will just be a part of your draw routine. Practice, Practice, Practice. When I first started carrying a 1911 that's what I did. Big change from the old issued S&W Model 19 in .357 w/ 2-1/2 in barrel that I carried for years, but with time I got used to the change. Also, if I may recommend, start carrying it NOW. Carry around the house. Carry 24/7. Get used to it on your person - where it will be, how it will be drawn and fired. If you've got snap caps load up a mag full and practice just draw and fire. If you carry it on your person around the house you'll get used to the weight/position when you're sitting or standing and you can practice to see if you "print". Find a GOOD holster that retains the pistol and is comfortable to wear for you. You've gotten lots of good advice from the members here. That's what we try to do - help each other out. You had the patience to find out what was best for YOU and now you are a happy lady. Prepare for the worst and hope for the best.
 
Millie said:
I agree completely. Maybe as I get more used to my new gun, I'll decide to not use the safety, but for now it feels better to do it that way. I'll practice with it on to be sure I remember. (Or will that just make it harder to switch to not having it on?) Obviously, lots more training is going to happen for me!
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If you are carrying with the chamber loaded and the hammer cocked you NEED to engaged the safety. It is not safe any other way.

Now if there is no round in the chamber you have a nice paper weight. Honestly I am confused.

This gun is designed and built to be carried cocked and locked with a round loaded in the chamber. Condition one!
 
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SSgt75 said:
Congratulations on your choice, Millie. I have (er...HAD before the boat accident) several Sigs and they are definitely sweet guns.
Don't worry about the thumb safety. When you are practicing ALWAYS sweep down on the safety with your thumb to take it off. When you're carrying a pistol without a thumb safety that won't make any difference - it will just be a part of your draw routine. Practice, Practice, Practice. When I first started carrying a 1911 that's what I did. Big change from the old issued S&W Model 19 in .357 w/ 2-1/2 in barrel that I carried for years, but with time I got used to the change. Also, if I may recommend, start carrying it NOW. Carry around the house. Carry 24/7. Get used to it on your person - where it will be, how it will be drawn and fired. If you've got snap caps load up a mag full and practice just draw and fire. If you carry it on your person around the house you'll get used to the weight/position when you're sitting or standing and you can practice to see if you "print". Find a GOOD holster that retains the pistol and is comfortable to wear for you. You've gotten lots of good advice from the members here. That's what we try to do - help each other out. You had the patience to find out what was best for YOU and now you are a happy lady. Prepare for the worst and hope for the best.
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Yes on the safety practice. And yes on the carry. I've been carrying the Kel Tec for awhile, all the time, used to having it on me. This new gun seems a bit heavier, may need to rethink the sticky holster inside the undies, which was perfect for the Kel Tec. Will see how it does in the bra and belly band. Work in progress!
 
wvsig said:
If you are carrying with the chamber loaded and the hammer cocked you NEED to engaged the safety. It is not safe any other way.

Now if there is no round in the chamber you have a nice paper weight. Honestly I am confused.

This gun is designed and built to be carried cocked and locked with a round loaded in the chamber. Condition one!
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The safety is ON. It will stay on for the foreseeable future. Round in chamber. Safety on.
 
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Congrats.
Now what will be the NEXT gun?
Cause everyone knows that the proper amount of guns is n+1, where n represents the number you currently have
 
Millie said:
The safety is ON. It will stay on for the foreseeable future.
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NOT for the foreseeable future forever if you are carrying this gun for self defense. Maybe I am not being clear enough but there is no other way to carry this gun for self defense.

Condition 1. Chamber loaded hammer cocked safety on.

If you carry it chamber loaded no safety you will at best shoot yourself unintentionally. At worst you will shoot someone else unintentionally. I CANNOT stress this point enough.
 
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